Bong Hits 4 Jesus

(Shanling @ Mar. 21 2007,10:52) Your arguement about seperating what you "feel" verse seeing it as a "whole" is what is wrong with this country right now.
zactly. Freedom? Freedom to hand over what we FEEL is right or wrong to the "Government" to decide? ? Do we REALLY want that faction deciding our feelings? I've been unimpressed with them thus far. I'll tell ya how *I* feel about that.... ;)

Aren't their already "decency laws" in place that keep people from begin so stupid?

"BONG HITS 4 BUSH" is JUST as offensive to me. Last I checked, drugs were still on the illegal list-- right?
 
(buss05 @ Mar. 21 2007,14:09) I don't think the freedom of speech card will work in this case. Keep in mind they are dealing with an illegal substance. Freedom or not, the issue of legality will likely play a big part in this.
If that were true, then we wouldn't have magazines like "High Times" allowed for sale in the U.S. You wouldn't see people walking around with necklaces showing mary jane leaves...Snoop Dogg would have to give up a big hobby of his
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(WWJD @ Mar. 21 2007,14:11)
(Shanling @ Mar. 21 2007,10:52) Your arguement about seperating what you "feel" verse seeing it as a "whole" is what is wrong with this country right now.
zactly.  Freedom?  Freedom to hand over what we FEEL is right or wrong to the "Government" to decide? ?   Do we REALLY want that faction deciding our feelings?  I've been unimpressed with them thus far.  I'll tell ya how *I* feel about that....   ;)

Aren't their already "decency laws" in place that keep people from begin so stupid?

"BONG HITS 4 BUSH"  is JUST as offensive to me.  Last I checked, drugs were still on the illegal list-- right?
Bong hits for Bush would never make the headlines
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(Shanling @ Mar. 21 2007,14:09) *muffled noises*

*more muffled noises*

*some more muffled noises*
Sorry, had to fix the muffled noises for you LOL

Sure that's not your stomach grumbling?
 
(WWJD @ Mar. 21 2007,14:11)
(Shanling @ Mar. 21 2007,10:52) Your arguement about seperating what you "feel" verse seeing it as a "whole" is what is wrong with this country right now.
zactly.  Freedom?  Freedom to hand over what we FEEL is right or wrong to the "Government" to decide? ?   Do we REALLY want that faction deciding our feelings?  I've been unimpressed with them thus far.  I'll tell ya how *I* feel about that....   ;)

Aren't their already "decency laws" in place that keep people from begin so stupid?

"BONG HITS 4 BUSH"  is JUST as offensive to me.  Last I checked, drugs were still on the illegal list-- right?
Okay, let's view it THIS way, shall we?

Do you WWJD, want ME and my feelings determining what you can and can't do?  Nope, probably not...likewise for me sweetie, I assure you
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So, therein lies the BIG problem...you will never be able to have that one sector of society determine for the rest of us what's okay.  Do I like that gov't takes on this role?  Hell no, but do I want YOU to do it for me?  Absolutely not!  Our gov't and it's laws are all we've got.  You don't like 'em, rally to get 'em changed, you don't agree, move to Amsterdam...

Jeez, it's the minds of a few thinking they know what's right for all that drive me nuts...  
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(VaBusa @ Mar. 21 2007,11:11)
(buss05 @ Mar. 21 2007,14:09) I don't think the freedom of speech card will work in this case. Keep in mind they are dealing with an illegal substance. Freedom or not, the issue of legality will likely play a big part in this.
If that were true, then we wouldn't have magazines like "High Times" allowed for sale in the U.S.  You wouldn't see people walking around with necklaces showing mary jane leaves...Snoop Dogg would have to give up a big hobby of his
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Just saying...  
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True, but not around the schools.
 
(VaBusa @ Mar. 21 2007,11:19) Jeez, it's the minds of a few thinking they know what's right for all that drive me nuts...  
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Hence the reason we vote
 
(buss05 @ Mar. 21 2007,14:24)
(VaBusa @ Mar. 21 2007,11:11)
(buss05 @ Mar. 21 2007,14:09) I don't think the freedom of speech card will work in this case. Keep in mind they are dealing with an illegal substance. Freedom or not, the issue of legality will likely play a big part in this.
If that were true, then we wouldn't have magazines like "High Times" allowed for sale in the U.S.  You wouldn't see people walking around with necklaces showing mary jane leaves...Snoop Dogg would have to give up a big hobby of his
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Just saying...  
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True, but not around the schools.
I agree, but he wasn't lighting up, hence it's falling under the "free speech" question...

I bet that school now has policies against this exact type of activity too...seems they learn as they go, adding policies after something goes wrong...you can't anticipate everything someone's going to do
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*MUFFLED NOISES*

*Smell of carbohlic acid*

Your right VaBusa, it was my stomach. I feel better now that I puked! ROFL!!!
 
(Shanling @ Mar. 21 2007,14:29) *MUFFLED NOISES*

*Smell of carbohlic acid*

Your right VaBusa, it was my stomach. I feel better now that I puked! ROFL!!!
Jeez man, don't you think we had enough mess in here?
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Clean up after yourself!
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I'm glad we agree on this. The one thing I can't stand is the people who complain about issues but refuse to vote becuase they don't feel it makes a difference.

EVERYONE MAKE SURE YOU VOTE!

The founding fathers would roll in their graves knowing how the laws of then are being interpreted today.
 
I'll just speak for myself here, but I feel I give up my right to whine and moan if I don't vote, so I always vote...can you imagine how many fewer posts I'd have if I didn't?!
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(VaBusa @ Mar. 21 2007,09:38) I'll just speak for myself here, but I feel I give up my right to whine and moan if I don't vote, so I always vote...can you imagine how many fewer posts I'd have if I didn't?!  
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Seems you have left us with no choice but to dream...

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Kidding, only kidding!!

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Seems you have left us with no choice but to dream...

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Oh, oh you went there

You do know I have access to the big red button, right?  Been a long time since I banned someone...  
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Ah crap!

Where is that danged corner that I need to go stand in?

Come to think of it, I think a sterner warning is in order here. Yep, thats right, a sterner warning!

I should be spanked!
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(Shanling @ Mar. 21 2007,14:53) Ah crap!

Where is that danged corner that I need to go stand in?

Come to think of it, I think a sterner warning is in order here. Yep, thats right, a sterner warning!

I should be spanked!
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We have this guy named, ummmm, Brad...yeah, he'll be flogging you today
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I'm too busy with the nails you know...
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(VaBusa @ Mar. 21 2007,11:19) Okay, let's view it THIS way, shall we?

Do you WWJD, want ME and my feelings determining what you can and can't do? Nope, probably not...likewise for me sweetie, I assure you
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So, therein lies the BIG problem...you will never be able to have that one sector of society determine for the rest of us what's okay. Do I like that gov't takes on this role? Hell no, but do I want YOU to do it for me? Absolutely not! Our gov't and it's laws are all we've got. You don't like 'em, rally to get 'em changed, you don't agree, move to Amsterdam...

Jeez, it's the minds of a few thinking they know what's right for all that drive me nuts...
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VA, I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT if you and I were to get together and DECIDE OURSELVES how to deal with this instead of the government. I guess you would be suprised by my openess to debating the problem with this punks stunt, and how you and I should deal with it - rather than a bunch of lieing, stealing blowhards in washington.

THAT's what our freedoms should allow us to do, but everyone is do afraid to discuss it with everyone else for fear of "OFFENDING SOMEONE ELSE" ooooOOOoooo.... I might say something you don't like, and my lack of being accepted SKEERS ME!!! ehem. not. WE should get together and discuss it as a town meeting - but alas, we all go runnin to the athoritii... the same people that let molesters walk, the same group that lets old, motorcyclist murding politians off the hook, the same people that have a HUGE list of other issues they cant deal with, let alone OUR obvious observations - like:

It is WRONG because you have kids and you do not want your kids being subjected to those drug advertisements on the public streets.

It's really so much common sense that we are tossing to the government and saying, "Gosh.... I dunno right and wrong... you immoral criminals figure it out and get back to me"

We could talk about it couldn't we? Do we ALWAYS hafta get the lawyers involved? *I* think we could come to an agreement
 
(buss05 @ Mar. 21 2007,11:36) I'm glad we agree on this. The one thing I can't stand is the people who complain about issues but refuse to vote becuase they don't feel it makes a difference.

EVERYONE MAKE SURE YOU VOTE!

The founding fathers would roll in their graves knowing how the laws of then are being interpreted today.
There are a number of things that would make our founding fathers roll over in their graves;

1. The expanded and invasive roll of the Federal Government into states rights and individual rights
2. Sixtenth Amendment authorizing federal income tax
3. The Emancipation Proclamation (Remember they were all slave holders)
4. Passage of the Ninetenth Amendment granting women the right to vote (1920, women have had the right to vote for only 87 yrs)
5. Civil Rights acts of 1866, 1871, 1875, 1957, 1960, 1964, 1968 & 1991
6. The Patriot Act, abridging the rights of citizens across a broad spectrum of basic rights. (The right to privacy, the right to counsel, to a trial by a jury of their peers and the right to confront their accuser)

This country bears little resemblance to that of the founding fathers with the exception of the governmental structure (Executive, Judicical and Legislative) and the rights guaranteed to us under the constitution and the bill of rights. It is these rights and governmental form that we must protect at all costs. When you start relinquishing your rights and freedoms (right of assembly, freedom of the press, freedom of speech (being perhaps the most valuable of all) and freedom of religion) you are encouraging the religious zeolots, right and left wing radicals to impose their will upon us all.

On WAG's signature line is a quote from C.S. Lewis that has struck me with its ring of truth in these turbulent times:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C.S. Lewis
 
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