Brake upgrade

[Jakegsxr11]

I'm considering upgrading my 08 to a radial master cylinder and stainless braided lines. I know the brembo rcs19 will work but if prefer to save some money and use something cheaper. It seems R1 or R6 masters may work but what years am I looking for? Any other bikes that swap over?
Thanks

 

[sixpack577]

Upgrade the pads too
Ebc HH 'Extreme Pro'
or the Veshra ceramic embedded equivalent.
Do not use race pads on the street.
They need to stay hot to work well.
@ROADTOAD1340
For MC advise

 

[GIXERHP]

ZX14 masters work very well also. And they are radial, and cheap

But Brembo is allways nice!

 

[fallenarch]

Upgrading can be done one item at a time too.

I would start with S.S. brake lines. This will make a big difference in both feel and power and it's pretty cheap. There are many options but IMHO they are all decent so just pick one. I'm currently running kevlar lines - don't waste your money on these. They are fine but not that much better than S.S. All you need to know skill-wise is how to bleed the brakes to install yourself.

Next are the brake pads @sixpack577 referred you to. These are both cheap and easy to install, so I would do all this at one time to get a bigger improvement.

At this point, you will have serviceable brakes for the street. If you are 200+ lbs or ride 2-up, the OEM brakes are dangerous IMO. It will essentially fix the weak OEM stoppers and make them serviceable. Remember, a free way to get better brakes is to get your suspension adjusted properly, and conversely no matter how good the brake parts are if the bike stands on its nose when you touch the lever it's no good.

But great brakes are about power and control, so next is the MC and the Brembo is the ticket here brother. The Brembo is basically plug-and-play and it's on a lot of Busas already. The basic RCS will make your brakes amazing and you will be amazed at the confidence boost you will get.

As long as the rotors are not worn or warped, they don't matter all that much. I ran the OEMs with my Brembo Rcs for 2 years and only upgraded for the bling. The OEM calipers are also fine. That's not to say my GP4 Brembo calipers and Brembo Rotors can't stop you so quick your false teeth bounce off the inside or your shield, just that that's a huge amount of money for a relatively small improvement you may not even use.

BTW: I modeled my setup after @GIXERHP !

 

[GIXERHP]

Upgrading can be done one item at a time too.

I would start with S.S. brake lines. This will make a big difference in both feel and power and it's pretty cheap. There are many options but IMHO they are all decent so just pick one. I'm currently running kevlar lines - don't waste your money on these. They are fine but not that much better than S.S. All you need to know skill-wise is how to bleed the brakes to install yourself.

Next are the brake pads @sixpack577 referred you to. These are both cheap and easy to install, so I would do all this at one time to get a bigger improvement.

At this point, you will have serviceable brakes for the street. If you are 200+ lbs or ride 2-up, the OEM brakes are dangerous IMO. It will essentially fix the weak OEM stoppers and make them serviceable. Remember, a free way to get better brakes is to get your suspension adjusted properly, and conversely no matter how good the brake parts are if the bike stands on its nose when you touch the lever it's no good.

But great brakes are about power and control, so next is the MC and the Brembo is the ticket here brother. The Brembo is basically plug-and-play and it's on a lot of Busas already. The basic RCS will make your brakes amazing and you will be amazed at the confidence boost you will get.

As long as the rotors are not worn or warped, they don't matter all that much. I ran the OEMs with my Brembo Rcs for 2 years and only upgraded for the bling. The OEM calipers are also fine. That's not to say my GP4 Brembo calipers and Brembo Rotors can't stop you so quick your false teeth bounce off the inside or your shield, just that that's a huge amount of money for a relatively small improvement you may not even use.

But if you do lines, first remember the Banjo fittings on a radial master are on the bottom, and lines need to be longer!

 

[fallenarch]

Yup forgot that.

 

[GIXERHP]

There is one way toYup forgot that.

 

[GIXERHP]

There is few ways to get away with the same lines though, Here is the Hel adapter, link,
M10 x 1.00 Radial Master Cylinder Adapter Kit

 

[ottafish]

I started with the R1 m/c upgrade. Rode it like that for 16months until tax return time.
It made a big difference and not that expensive. The feel and modulation was the biggest improvement. These two added together equaled much better stopping ability.

 

[Bumblebee]

I started with the R1 m/c upgrade. Rode it like that for 16months until tax return time.
It made a big difference and not that expensive. The feel and modulation was the biggest improvement. These two added together equaled much better stopping ability.

I have the R1 Brembo MC on mine and it works great....will not bother to upgrade from this.

 

[Cantab]

+ 1 for the Kawasaki ZX 14 (and 10?) MC i had when i had my Gen 2

 

[Jakegsxr11]

How much longer do the lines need to be to use a radial master? Is there somewhere to get these lines?

 

[GIXERHP]

How much longer do the lines need to be to use a radial master? Is there somewhere to get these lines?

I use Coax cable to get more accuate measurement, I i recall it think the custom lines i had Galfer make me before where 2 inchs longer. I also had the change the fittings as well

 

[GIXERHP]

Core moto is really nice to work with and they are quick as well for custom lines !

Custom and Aftermarket Sport Bike Parts and Accessories – Core Moto specializes in custom colored stainless steel braided brake lines Available for Sportbikes and Dirt bikes | Performance Brake lines | CoreMoto.com

 

[GIXERHP]

All waiting for the brake lines for the Busa .

 

[GIXERHP]

My old post,

New Brakes on the way! Drool!!! | Busa Mods

Ok after several weeks of debating what to go with for my brake upgrade, here it is, everything is on order and on its way! But so much for only spending $1500 the total has almost doubled! So heres the list, Brembo HP rotors Brembo Radial Caliper Kit 100mm Brembo HP Brembo RCS master...

www.hayabusa.org

 

[michael parris heuberger]

My old post,

New Brakes on the way! Drool!!! | Busa Mods

Ok after several weeks of debating what to go with for my brake upgrade, here it is, everything is on order and on its way! But so much for only spending $1500 the total has almost doubled! So heres the list, Brembo HP rotors Brembo Radial Caliper Kit 100mm Brembo HP Brembo RCS master...

www.hayabusa.org

Hi. All you have to do is buy the brake line and the banjos,bolts and the copper seals an make the yourself. I have done it that way with all of my bikes for over 40 years.

 

[Berlin Germany]

(...) Any other bikes that swap over?

ducati 749 / 999 (brake & clutch) for example - both are made by brembo

i used them at may ´00 busa with full success - see my page , scroll down to end and watch the 4 pics 20.1 - 21.2

 

[JohnnyDangerous]

Upgrading can be done one item at a time too.

I would start with S.S. brake lines. This will make a big difference in both feel and power and it's pretty cheap. There are many options but IMHO they are all decent so just pick one. I'm currently running kevlar lines - don't waste your money on these. They are fine but not that much better than S.S. All you need to know skill-wise is how to bleed the brakes to install yourself.

Next are the brake pads @sixpack577 referred you to. These are both cheap and easy to install, so I would do all this at one time to get a bigger improvement.

At this point, you will have serviceable brakes for the street. If you are 200+ lbs or ride 2-up, the OEM brakes are dangerous IMO. It will essentially fix the weak OEM stoppers and make them serviceable. Remember, a free way to get better brakes is to get your suspension adjusted properly, and conversely no matter how good the brake parts are if the bike stands on its nose when you touch the lever it's no good.

But great brakes are about power and control, so next is the MC and the Brembo is the ticket here brother. The Brembo is basically plug-and-play and it's on a lot of Busas already. The basic RCS will make your brakes amazing and you will be amazed at the confidence boost you will get.

As long as the rotors are not worn or warped, they don't matter all that much. I ran the OEMs with my Brembo Rcs for 2 years and only upgraded for the bling. The OEM calipers are also fine. That's not to say my GP4 Brembo calipers and Brembo Rotors can't stop you so quick your false teeth bounce off the inside or your shield, just that that's a huge amount of money for a relatively small improvement you may not even use.

BTW: I modeled my setup after @GIXERHP !

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So im going for the Brembo master, lines and fast road pads, this is a pic of the amount of dive on my front forks as bike is stock, im 210/20 in my gear, any advice as I think its ear its limit on the stock brake system?

 

[fallenarch]

So im going for the Brembo master, lines and fast road pads, this is a pic of the amount of dive on my front forks as bike is stock, im 210/20 in my gear, any advice as I think its ear its limit on the stock brake system?

Well, there is the good old fashion country way which is to set the suspension to get roughly 30mm sag (I think @sixpack577 will verify this). Then go out and hit the brakes. You should feel the suspension dive a bit as it transfers weight to the front, but not excessively so. You can feel it when the bike gets unstable upfront due to dive. The steering feels wiggly and you feel like you are supporting all your weight on the arms.

I had my suspension setup by a certified Ohlins tech so the secrets of all of it I don't know. I just know how many clicks I need to get back to his settings. Maybe someone else has a more objective answer to your question.