Breonna Taylor

bad officer is already criminally charged...it's over, next please.

If only it were that easy. Cities have to burn. This has to escalate until a black person can never be shot by an officer. No matter the circumstances. We have to get rid of any Uncle Tom's that enforce any laws too. They are fueling the racism.
 
Supposed? Blindly shooting into a room? The question I have is why some officers seem to be more likely to abandon protocol when blacks are involved. We as a society might never get rid of racism but in police enforcement it can't happen.
You ever hear of David Koresch in Waco Tx. Ever watch that day the shoot out began? Shots started pouring out that place. Cops were blindly shooting back. Innocent people were shot inside that house. They were all white.

The cops aren't checking skin colors when they have rounds being fired at them.
 
I haven't sought out what you're reading. And I don't have a credible link to support it. But on either NBC or ABC there was a statement made by an interview (it was in the background and I wasn't tuned in to find this matter), stating that Breana was used as a human shield. That could explain that. However Walker was a fine upstanding citizen so that can't have been the case.

Maybe you can read it more and see if there is clarity.
Good work there Tall. Make it up, sketchy references and make the guy protecting himself the bad guy. Lol!
 
You ever hear of David Koresch in Waco Tx. Ever watch that day the shoot out began? Shots started pouring out that place. Cops were blindly shooting back. Innocent people were shot inside that house. They were all white.

The cops aren't checking skin colors when they have rounds being fired at them
.

Not all cops...obviously not all incidents have racial issues, but there are too many incidents for me to believe that racism in not a big issue in many police departments. That has to change now.
 
Good work there Tall. Make it up, sketchy references and make the guy protecting himself the bad guy. Lol!
I said I didn't have a credible source to link. Do you even bother to read? We are all curious why Walker didn't get a scratch in that hail of fire. What is your credible explanation? And please provide us a credible source for your explanation. Otherwise you're just being sketchy and making stuff up.
 
Not all cops...obviously not all incidents have racial issues, but there are too many incidents for me to believe that racism in not a big issue in many police departments. That has to change now.
I can cite plenty of times cops shoot whites that are posing a threat to them. We need to work on the policy of "what poses a threat". A man in handcuffs does NOT pose a threat. A man ignoring Cops commands to stop and head for his car to get inside. Does.
 
Supposed? Blindly shooting into a room? The question I have is why some officers seem to be more likely to abandon protocol when blacks are involved. We as a society might never get rid of racism but in police enforcement it can't happen.
Trevor Noah proposed that we no longer have a "Social Contract" in America. He might be on to something. If police have lost respect for the people they serve, there is no contract. If the people have lost respect for the police that serve them, there is no contract.

No contract in place, you do what you want to do to each other.

He might be on to something.
 
I said I didn't have a credible source to link. Do you even bother to read? We are all curious why Walker didn't get a scratch in that hail of fire. What is your credible explanation? And please provide us a credible source for your explanation. Otherwise you're just being sketchy and making stuff up.
I didn't post my hypothesis because I have no proof at all. But the most logical explanation is the cops were told to take Walker (who they mistakenly thought was the drug guy) alive to get information from him. The girl was shot either as intimidation or because they thought she might also be armed and since she was not considered an information source she was terminated with extreme prejudice as they say. This explanation solves several odd and yet to be logically explained things in the incident. You guys immediately get in the cops angels mindset and don't consider other perspectives, ending up needing pretzel logic to explain things.
I think now that the family has been paid off and probably silenced and there is oddly no body cam footage, we'll never know what really happened.
 
Tom, I know his sarcasm isn't lost on you. The lack of respect is scary but the cause can be analyzed. We can wish for less crime until the end of time but how have the last 100 years gone? We need a refining of police vetting, training and of course pay scale. I've said it it over and over.
 
I didn't post my hypothesis because I have no proof at all. But the most logical explanation is the cops were told to take Walker (who they mistakenly thought was the drug guy) alive to get information from him. The girl was shot either as intimidation or because they thought she might also be armed and since she was not considered an information source she was terminated with extreme prejudice as they say. This explanation solves several odd and yet to be logically explained things in the incident. You guys immediately get in the cops angels mindset and don't consider other perspectives, ending up needing pretzel logic to explain things.
I think now that the family has been paid off and probably silenced and there is oddly no body cam footage, we'll never know what really happened.
Well you left out a teeny tiny few detais in your hypothesis. Walker started shooting at the cops and in fact hitting them, when they busted in. At that point, taking him in for questioning, wasn't what was on their mind. And how your supposed hypothesis supports how they decided let's shoot someone else instead of him. If they had the skills to per your theory, shoot her on purpose, they had the same skills to shoot Walker. Cops unloaded rounds everywhere, including into the neighbors dwellings. Yet they couldn't manage a shot into Walker? Now I've known a few cops. And there are some cops on this thread. Firearms proficiency training is routine and frequent. Cops know how to find a target and make it generally feasible that they can accurately hit said target. How can you miss the right target, and hit multiple times, the wrong one. Let's shoot Breona, so um we can intimidate the guy we are not able to hit. And oh by the way, communicate this change of plan to all the firing officers in that moment Walker began firing.

And they were going to her apt as per the warrant and knew she had a history with who they were looking for. Would she have also been wanted to be taken for questioning as well? I mean why shoot one and leave the other. Is one less valuable for questioning? So they exterminate?

And you think my logic is twisted? I am totally not surprised you do.
 
Tom, I know his sarcasm isn't lost on you. The lack of respect is scary but the cause can be analyzed. We can wish for less crime until the end of time but how have the last 100 years gone? We need a refining of police vetting, training and of course pay scale. I've said it it over and over.
Calling an accomplished black man a racial slur is sarcasm?
 
Well you left out a teeny tiny few detais in your hypothesis. Walker started shooting at the cops and in fact hitting them, when they busted in. At that point, taking him in for questioning, wasn't what was on their mind. And how your supposed hypothesis supports how they decided let's shoot someone else instead of him. If they had the skills to per your theory, shoot her on purpose, they had the same skills to shoot Walker. Cops unloaded rounds everywhere, including into the neighbors dwellings. Yet they couldn't manage a shot into Walker? Now I've known a few cops. And there are some cops on this thread. Firearms proficiency training is routine and frequent. Cops know how to find a target and make it generally feasible that they can accurately hit said target. How can you miss the right target, and hit multiple times, the wrong one. Let's shoot Breona, so um we can intimidate the guy we are not able to hit. And oh by the way, communicate this change of plan to all the firing officers in that moment Walker began firing.

And they were going to her apt as per the warrant and knew she had a history with who they were looking for. Would she have also been wanted to be taken for questioning as well? I mean why shoot one and leave the other. Is one less valuable for questioning? So they exterminate?

And you think my logic is twisted? I am totally not surprised you do.
Think about it Tall, Walker shot and hit some of the cops and they didn't hit him once? In a little closed apartment and firing a lot of rounds? My point was that the only way a brother survives shooting 2 cops is that they want him alive. I gave two theories on why she was shot. The first was she surprised them and they thought she might also have a weapon (basically legit) or they wanted to intimidate him and didn't need her alive (not so legit). It's hard to argue one of these scenarios didn't happen, but who knows which one it was?

You say cops have firearm proficiency which is my experience with the ones I know (quite a few also). So that just further makes my point that Walker survived because they wanted him to. Dude you're not making sense.
 
Many of the cops I shot with were struggling to hit a red barn with a beach ball under duress...

These guys shot at ranges and hadn't used a "jungle lane" since their basic cop training.

We put them through several "jungle lanes" before they deployed to Afghanistan as part of the POMLET.

After a bit of time, they were proficient but it took time-the time a normal beat cop doesn't have. They do their annual qualification shoot and that's about it.

ERT members do much more though-and so they should.
 
Many of the cops I shot with were struggling to hit a red barn with a beach ball under duress...

These guys shot at ranges and hadn't used a "jungle lane" since their basic cop training.

We put them through several "jungle lanes" before they deployed to Afghanistan as part of the POMLET.

After a bit of time, they were proficient but it took time-the time a normal beat cop doesn't have. They do their annual qualification shoot and that's about it.

ERT members do much more though-and so they should.
So we get back to poor quality of cops/poor training. I've been in agreement there long before any of these threads. Newsflash. Plenty of cops have been arseholes to me too. And I don't sleep with drug dealers, pass fake $, or turn and walk away from them and make a break for my car. I'm sure it would have been worse for me if I had
 
So which is it Tall?

This:

Now I've known a few cops. And there are some cops on this thread. Firearms proficiency training is routine and frequent. Cops know how to find a target and make it generally feasible that they can accurately hit said target.

Or this?

So we get back to poor quality of cops/poor training. I've been in agreement there long before any of these threads.
 
So which is it Tall?

This:



Or this?
It's both. There are more good cops than bad there Sparky. I've had good cops admit they have bad cops on their own force. The Unions make it tough to get rid of them. Another area of reform.

You do realize I'm old enough to have been exposed to all walks of life right? I mean maybe your lens sees things all one way. Mine doesn't. You wish to make all cops out to be racist. I get it. It's your culture.
 
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