Busa brakes.....

[delboy]

Just placed an order for a set of "braking" WAVE DISC and a new set of Carbone Lorraine Sintered pads in an attempt to finally solve my Busa brake problem. I have also been told by Colin Moore (Moore Speed Racing) that I should incease the diameter of the link pipe from the PT master cylinder and the Fluid Pot, this according to him will harden the lever, as at the moment its still a bit spongy (system has been bleed 3 times). Not sure what effects this can have, as its a closed system ?

Anyway hope to fit this the weekend and pray that Mr Moore has not put the invoice on the outside of the package so the wife can see it

 

[gat0r]

you'll luv the Carbone Lorraine pads, as well as rotors

 

[nitrousjunkie]

Any HH rated pad along with some stainless lines will greatly improve your brakes.

 

[rockadaous]

I just changed my pads yesterday. Man what a difference. Now I need to pickup my lines and I'll be set. EBC HH are the bomb. Big thanks to james for hook'n a brotha up

 

[tinbender0]

So how much of a difference does the braided lines make

or is it mostly cosmetic

I have the HH pads now , and I did notice quite a difference from the stockers (and noise). What about the rear

Heck, it seems to lock up rather easy anyway..

 

[SpeedGeek]

Topic: Busa brakes....., last upgrade...


LMAO... RIIIIIIIIGHT! There is no such thing...

"Last upgrade" on a Busa is like a Unicorn

Topic should be: Busa brakes....., last upgrade... until the next one

 

[tinbender0]

 

[DR1300R]

No such thing as a last upgrade..

 

[hydrabusa]

Yeah...right!!! the last upgrade for now...

 

[kml]

(tinbender0 @ Mar. 01 2007,11

) So how much of a difference does the braided lines make

or is it mostly cosmetic

I have the HH pads now , and I did notice quite a difference from the stockers (and noise). What about the rear

Heck, it seems to lock up rather easy anyway..

I have always found that braided lines GREATLY improve the feel by reducing lever travel and increasing firmness. As too an out right increase in braking power, I don't know, if the stock brakes can lock the front tire at speed or lift the rear off the ground during hard braking how much of an improvement in out right power can they make? Having said that it if DEFINATLY worth doing for the improved feel. Maybe folks with more knowledge than me will weigh in.
http://www.goodridge.net/usa....ber.pdf

cheers
ken

 

[ibified]

I'm new to the busa. In fact, I still have 0 miles on mine. However, braided brake lines are already on my bike. I also have braided lines on both my car and my truck. They make a BIG difference in brake feel. When you consider that the effectiveness of your brakes may be the difference between you wrecking and you NOT wrecking, spend the money and do the upgrade.

 

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[Jailer]

+1 on the goodrich lines and EBC HH pads.

Got that plus Spiegler Rotors and they are awesome! 2 fingers stops with ease.

 

[TruWrecks]

I'm just curious to how bad Busa brakes have become. I had an 04 LE, an the brakes were good enough to lock up the front and rear wheels pretty easy. If you can do that with factory brakes, maybe you have ABS? No? Then maybe Suzuki needs to redesign their brake systems. It must be horrible for you people that own a newer Busa. I can see replacing the pads to reduce fade. But do we really need more "touchy" brakes on a bike that will already lay down quicker than Paris Holton on stock brakes? JMHO.

 

[ibified]

Tru> it isn't about the ability of the brakes to actually stop the bike. It's more about how the brakes FEEL. Rubber lines feel spongy to me compared to braided steel. The reason is because they are. Some of that hydraulic pressure going through the hoses to the caliper gets wasted on expanding the rubber hoses. You don't have that with steel lines.

And again, there's not a HUGE difference, but if i come up a foot short from slamming into the side of some idiot who didnt see me and turns in front of me, they were worth it.

 

[TruWrecks]

(ibified @ Mar. 02 2007,07:38) Tru> it isn't about the ability of the brakes to actually stop the bike. It's more about how the brakes FEEL. Rubber lines feel spongy to me compared to braided steel. The reason is because they are. Some of that hydraulic pressure going through the hoses to the caliper gets wasted on expanding the rubber hoses. You don't have that with steel lines.

And again, there's not a HUGE difference, but if i come up a foot short from slamming into the side of some idiot who didnt see me and turns in front of me, they were worth it.

I know it's all about the feel, but I couldn't pass up the chance to shoot down the "Need stronger brakes" crowd.

BTW my new bike's coming with ABS so it will be easier to adjusts the feel, and harder to lock up the front.

Maybe Suzuki needs to consider a cross-linked ABS for the Busa. That also makes stopping on new tires a bit safer.

 

[Hayabusa4life]

They look good !!!

 

[delboy]

(hydrabusa Mar. 01 2007,20:46)

Yeah...right!!! the last upgrade for now...[/Quote]

So true  

 

[delboy]

All work done and it works fine

 

[TallTom]

OK well I'll add my .02 worth. It is about better braking power as well as feel. The notion that the brakes don't really need to be better than OEM I take issue with. Depends on your driving needs. Are the OEM brakes adequate or marginal? I found them to be somewhere between OK and adequate. Then I had a few instances where I needed to haul myself down quickly from speed with max weight on the bike and I found them to be less than adequate. They fade a lot. They do little to bleed off speed until you really squeezed. The rubber lines by virtue of them being rubber will allow the braking system to expand that rubber giving the total pressure to the pistons a little less. The braided lines do not bulge. That little bit of difference will add a very noticeable crispness to your brakes. Yes you will be applying more pressure (no bulging with the same amount of fluid means it has to go somewhere else now) to the pistons thereby increasing your braking power. Now upgrading the pads themselves is going to give you more bite than before if you use something other than OEM pad material. I just upgraded to the EBC HH and braided stainless and the bike stops HUGELY better than it ever did before. It bleeds off speed instantly, smoothly and predictably with plenty of room left for more braking power if needed.

They have to make compromises somewhere in the cost structure of building a vehicle. Brakes are usually made to be adequate but not the best.