Cams-Intake on Exhaust or New grinds??

8secBusa

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I was thinking about doing the intake swap to the exhaust, wondering if there is much to be had or if just upgrading both with some after maket grinds is the better value.
 
If you want to achive you signature line, dont waste your time with the second intake! Web has some good drop in cams for a busa! But again you will need more than just the cams to get the Hp you need!
 
Well, I assume the following
Baseline 9.45 145
Race gas .1 + 2mph
Cam swap .1 + 1mph
wheels .15 + 3mph
Ported .1 + 1mph
Head

Current dyno 169
Expected 185
 
You need to bump the compression along with the cam swap! Figure a set of pistons in there.

I plan on doing both cams when I do mine....if I do it at all.
 
All i have to say is,,, THERES NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!
 
I will eventually get a big bore kit, a set of cams, exhaust system and a Power Commander.

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Intake to exhaust and a Web 378 on intake, along with JE 12.8:1's and a modestly ported and milled head got me 196.
 
Well, I assume the following
Baseline  9.45  145
Race gas  .1  + 2mph
Cam swap  .1  + 1mph
wheels    .15 + 3mph
Ported    .1  + 1mph
Head

Current dyno 169
Expected   185
I think you're pretty close with these assumptions except for one...the ported head. A good fully worked over head with cams should yield more power and obviously more improvements in your ET. It not uncommon to get mid 190's out of stock bore bike with the mods listed.

Go with two new cams rather than the swap.
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Rick,
When I get mine done and back together this spring, I will have to bring it over to you and let you launch it down the track. Will only have about 200whp, but I would like to see what she'll run with someone who knows what they are doing?

Don
 
Rick,
 When I get mine done and back together this spring, I will have to bring it over to you and let you launch it down the track.  Will only have about 200whp, but I would like to see what she'll run with someone who knows what they are doing?

Don
I'm game... We'll have to swap one of my rear tire/wheels on it. I don't think we'll be able to get a street tire to hook with that beast!
 
Rick,
 When I get mine done and back together this spring, I will have to bring it over to you and let you launch it down the track.  Will only have about 200whp, but I would like to see what she'll run with someone who knows what they are doing?

Don
I'm game... We'll have to swap one of my rear tire/wheels on it. I don't think we'll be able to get a street tire to hook with that beast!
Good it is a date then. I will be running an 18/43 sprocket set up so we may have to take a look at that as well.


Don
 
BTW 8sec,
Sorry for the little thread jack. If you are going to tear into it, I would replace both cams with a set of the Web drop ins. We are putting the stg II webs in mine.


Don
 
8secbusa,

The complete set Brock set Faircloud had would have been a great setup for a stock bore with a guy your size. Sorry you missed out on that deal.
 
It depends on how much you want to spend.  If you don't want to spend too much then go with the intake on the exhaust side.  But if you have enough money then go with the drop ins.  You will get more bang for you buck in the long run.  Specially if at a later date you want more power and only have the intake on the exhaust side.  You will then have to buy the drop ins anyways.  With what your wanting to do I would say just go with a set of web cams .378"/.330" lift cams.  Here are the specs on it.

http://aperaceparts.com/tech/camsWS70752.html

I would also go with a set of adjustable cam sprocets, to get the most out of the new cams.  Valve springs to handle the new cams and retainers to fit the higher lift cam.  And I would also reccomend going with a set of high compression pistons if you have the money.  That should get you a lot closer to your mark than the intake cam on the exhaust side will. Now don't get me wrong the intake cam on the exhaust side is a very popular mod to do cause of the price and is a really good turbo cam, but you will get better results with the dorp in cams.
 
I guess it's just unheard of to do what I did: a combo of the swap and one drop-in cam for half the money?

The plan is next year when I go to a big bore take the 378 off intake and put it on exhaust, and buy a second drop in for intake (the 395 lift web cam). I only did all this on the advice of my builder - not like I really know what I'm talking about. Bike runs night and day stronger than it did stock so I'm not complaining either way.

Anyone know the specs of the stock intake cam?
 
Not unheard of at all and it should be better than running two intakes. I;m sure there is some to gained by running two aftermarket cams but you are looking at another $250-350. Is the difference worth the cost"¦"¦ that is the question?

OEM cam Specs
Intake 0.346 234
Exhaust 0.292 214
 
Not unheard of at all and it should be better than running two intakes. I;m sure there is some to gained by running two aftermarket cams but you are looking at another $250-350.  Is the difference worth the cost"¦"¦ that is the question?

OEM cam Specs
Intake 0.346 234
Exhaust 0.292 214
Cool - just wanted to make sure I understood what I had done to my own bike.

One thing I noticed when ordering from Web: she asked me if I wanted hard-weld or billet versions of the same cam. I went with billet but have been wondering what exactly the difference was ever since.
 
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