ok first I live on a dirt road so this makes a big difference. Pj1 black worked great but flung everywhere. The chain wax was a dirt magnet, yuck. The 3m teflon wax worked good but seemed not to last the 600 miles between cleanings. Bel-ray super clean was very good but I am not crazy about the color. Just ordered klotz klr lube per write up in webbike world. nephew has been using it with great results. No fling and does not attract dirt. this is like tires and oil good luck