Christmas is For Christ?  NOT!

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(Revlis @ Dec. 12 2006,17:flamethrowing:)
(RaveCrusader @ Dec. 12 2006,17:30)
(Revlis @ Dec. 12 2006,15:06) Weird huh, as much as I am Anti-Everything...
How exactly can one be anti-everything?
I dunno Bbut Now I'm anti...YOU.    
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But ask VaBusa, I think she pointed it out once or twice.
Then you are now in the not so elite realm of my many ex-girlfriends.

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(dudewizr @ Dec. 12 2006,17:03)
(Revlis @ Dec. 12 2006,17:17) Yeah the reason for the season is Christ's Birthday!

WRONG!

"Christmas" Has NOTHING to DO WITH CHRIST! The More you swear up and down that it does the sillier you sound.

Go ahead, look it up. It's the Winter Solstice, a Pagan celebration of the shortest day, marking a return to shorter Nights and more sun and warmth to come...

Christians Couldn't Murder and Abuse the Pagans into NON-existence so POW here it is a "Christian Holiday". Oh and BTW, You Pagans? BAM YOUR Christians, look you even party on the same days...

Easter as well, SAME THING...

So by all means, Decorate your Pagan Tree! Hang your PAGAN Wreath, Wrap your PAGAN Gifts, and Set Fire to Your PAGAN Yule LOG, while enjoying your PAGAN Feast!
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AND, Make darn Sure you enjoy your Tree!!!

Heathens.
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Jeremiah 10:2-4 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

Public Domain
[A Public Domain Bible] [KJV at Zondervan] [Zondervan]

2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Interesting there is NO MENTION of "ChristMas" in the Bible... Strange huh? No mention of Wrapping Gifts etc...

How about the Easter Bunny? NOPE nothing there either.

The Church and Money that's what it is all about... I see GIANT Singing Christmas trees at Churches and Laugh my a55 off. Here is a Pagan Celebration, endorsed and rubber stamped by the Church. I find it awesome that even today, Pagan rituals and symbols are featured so heavily in Christianity, especially during Solstice, Equinox etc...

Funny how so few Christians and their churches look this in the eyes. I suppose if they did they would have to admit that easter is a Pagan celebration ALSO not about Christ...

You want to put your faith in your Church that is now Slathered in Pagan Symbology and images? Go ahead.

You most likely have a Tree in the house and a wreath and lights up somewhere right? Yup, a house FILLED TO OVERFLOWING, with Pagan ritual and images...

It's all good, just remember that according to your own Book... "Learn not the way of the heathen"

Bunch of heathens!
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All that being said? IT SHOULD BE CALLED CHRISTMAS!!! WHY?

BECAUSE that is what the Majority of Americans want... This crybaby Bullcrap from every little religious Group and Special interest group SHOULD NOT have the RIGHT to have Trees REMOVED, or Decorations Taking DOWN!

It's Bullcrap and it's NOT what the Majority wants. Minority Groups and Special interest groups have created a Nation of Victims supported by a legal system that allows it...

It's called DEMOCRACY and it's what the MAJORITY wants. Not what some self important "Victim" or Victims want.

You don't want to Celebrate a Pagan holiday along with the Majority of America? DON'T, Do your Own thing! But you shouldn't expect the Majority to give a rats bootie about you and your special needs or worry about weather or not you are offended...

Merry Christmas Everyone! Hugs and Kisses! Uncle Rev.
And what was your point?
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Damn isn't it obvious?

Merry Christmas! Sheesh...

Oh and that the Christianity in America is mostly A Farce, The Bible is a Book edited and Modified by men in Power to suit their needs and whim to further their grasp and command of the common man.

Oh and that believing that this season, this holiday, has ANYTHING TO DO with Jesus is just plain delusional...

Other than that...

Merry Christmas.
 
(RaveCrusader @ Dec. 12 2006,17:37)
(Revlis @ Dec. 12 2006,17
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(RaveCrusader @ Dec. 12 2006,17:30)
(Revlis @ Dec. 12 2006,15:06) Weird huh, as much as I am Anti-Everything...
How exactly can one be anti-everything?
I dunno Bbut Now I'm anti...YOU.
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But ask VaBusa, I think she pointed it out once or twice.
Then you are now in the not so elite realm of my many ex-girlfriends.

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I didn't even get a kiss...
 
(Revlis @ Dec. 12 2006,17:39)
(RaveCrusader @ Dec. 12 2006,17:37)
(Revlis @ Dec. 12 2006,17
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(RaveCrusader @ Dec. 12 2006,17:30)
(Revlis @ Dec. 12 2006,15:06) Weird huh, as much as I am Anti-Everything...
How exactly can one be anti-everything?
I dunno Bbut Now I'm anti...YOU.    
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But ask VaBusa, I think she pointed it out once or twice.
Then you are now in the not so elite realm of my many ex-girlfriends.

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  I didn't even get a kiss...
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eww...

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(thrasherfox @ Dec. 12 2006,17:20)
(Revlis @ Dec. 12 2006,15:06) One thing that I find to be a huge rift in my own psyche though, is my out and out LOVE of this time of year. I love the lights, the christmas tree is my Favorite, the snuggling in front of the fire with someone or something that ya love.... Oh Man I just love Christmas.

Weird huh, as much as I am Anti-Everything, you'd think that I'd be Anti-christmas as well... But it must just appeal to some left over pagan blood or something. I love giving gifts, I like surprises (Thank you Brenda and Greg) and over all it's just fun...

I even find myself missing my family which is strange for me.

Staying out of the Malls and shopping early helps alot I think though.
Sounds to me like the holy spirit of Christ is tugging at your soul trying to open your eyes so that you will come to know your savior...







Uhh just a thought
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Right... Pretty sure it's not the lord though because that's not whats getting tugged on...
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Just playing....


Besides, I belive most of you know that I am tight with God, Just not the Fuzzy Bunnie's and lets all feel good version preached in America by and large.

Yeah, Find me ANY mention of Rapture, there is none... And it goes on and on... Rabbits, Eggs, Logs and Trees, Angels on the trees, Blah Blah Blah.... Re-writes and edits, Cut to fit and trimmed for easy handling...
 
(Revlis @ Dec. 12 2006,17:17) Yeah the reason for the season is Christ's Birthday!

WRONG!  

"Christmas" Has NOTHING to DO WITH CHRIST!  The More you swear up and down that it does the sillier you sound.

Go ahead, look it up.   It's the Winter Solstice, a Pagan celebration of the shortest day, marking a return to shorter Nights and more sun and warmth to come...  

Christians Couldn't Murder and Abuse the Pagans into NON-existence so POW here it is a "Christian Holiday".   Oh and BTW, You Pagans?  BAM YOUR Christians, look you even party on the same days...

Easter as well, SAME THING...  

So by all means, Decorate your Pagan Tree!  Hang your PAGAN Wreath, Wrap your PAGAN Gifts, and Set Fire to Your PAGAN Yule LOG, while enjoying your PAGAN Feast!    
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AND, Make darn Sure you enjoy your Tree!!!  

Heathens.  
ices_rofl.gif

Jeremiah 10:2-4 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

Public Domain
[A Public Domain Bible] [KJV at Zondervan] [Zondervan]

2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Interesting there is NO MENTION of "ChristMas" in the Bible...  Strange huh?  No mention of Wrapping Gifts etc...

How about the Easter Bunny?  NOPE nothing there either.

The Church and Money that's what it is all about...  I see GIANT Singing Christmas trees at Churches and Laugh my a55 off. Here is a Pagan Celebration, endorsed and rubber stamped by the Church.  I find it awesome that even today, Pagan rituals and symbols are featured so heavily in Christianity, especially during Solstice, Equinox etc...  

Funny how so few Christians and their churches look this in the eyes.  I suppose if they did they would have to admit that easter is a Pagan celebration ALSO not about Christ...

You want to put your faith in your Church that is now Slathered in Pagan Symbology and images?  Go ahead.  

You most likely have a Tree in the house and a wreath and lights up somewhere right?  Yup, a house FILLED TO OVERFLOWING, with Pagan ritual and images...  

It's all good, just remember that according to your own Book... "Learn not the way of the heathen"

Bunch of heathens!  
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All that being said?  IT SHOULD BE CALLED CHRISTMAS!!!  WHY?

BECAUSE that is what the Majority of Americans want...  This crybaby Bullcrap from every little religious Group and Special interest group SHOULD NOT have the RIGHT to have Trees REMOVED, or Decorations Taking DOWN!

It's Bullcrap and it's NOT what the Majority wants.  Minority Groups and Special interest groups have created a Nation of Victims supported by a legal system that allows it...

It's called DEMOCRACY and it's what the MAJORITY wants.  Not what some self important "Victim" or Victims want.

You don't want to Celebrate a Pagan holiday along with the Majority of America?  DON'T,  Do your Own thing!  But you shouldn't expect the Majority to give a rats bootie about you and your special needs or worry about weather or not you are offended...

Merry Christmas Everyone!  Hugs and Kisses!  Uncle Rev.[/Quote]
Taken just a bit out of context, and here's why.

The prophet Isaiah, when he prophesied of the captivity in Babylon, added warnings against idolatry and largely exposed the sottishness of idolaters, not only because the temptations in Babylon would be in danger of drawing the Jews there to idolatry, but because the afflictions in Babylon were designed to cure them of their idolatry. Thus the prophet Jeremiah here arms people against the idolatrous usages and customs of the heathen, not only for the use of those that had gone to Babylon, but of those also that staid behind, that being convinced and reclaimed, by the word of God, the rod might be prevented; and it is written for our learning. Observe here.

God would not have his people to be dismayed at the signs of heaven, to reverence the stars as deities, nor to frighten themselves with any prognostications grounded upon them. Let them fear the God of heaven, and keep up a reverence of his providence, and then they need not be dismayed at the signs of heaven, for the stars in their courses fight not against any that are at peace with God. The heathen are dismayed at these signs, for they know no better; but let not the house of Israel, that are taught of God, be so.

The way of the heathen is very ridiculous and absurd, and is condemned even by the dictates of right reason, v. 3. The statutes and ordinances of the heathen are vanity itself; they cannot stand the test of a rational disquisition. This is again and again insisted upon here, as it was by Isaiah. The Chaldeans valued themselves upon their wisdom, in which they thought that they excelled all their neighbours; but the prophet here shows that they, and all others that worshipped idols and expected help and relief from them, were brutish and sottish, and had not common sense. (1.) Consider what the idol is that is worshipped. It was a tree cut out of the forest originally. It was fitted up by the hands of the workman, squared, and sawed, and worked into shape; see Isa. 44:12, etc. But, after all, it was but the stock of a tree, fitter to make a gate-post of than any thing else. But, to hide the wood, they deck it with silver and gold, they gild or lacquer it, or they deck it with gold and silver lace, or cloth of tissue.

We are warned not to conform to the ways of the heathens.
  1.  The heathens regarded teh stars (signs of the heavens) as deities.
  2.  They worshipped idols expecting relief from them.

I put a tree up but have yet to worship it, kneel to it or expect any relief from it, and certainly do not revere any of the stars, moon or any other signs of heaven as deity.  Nor does anyone I know.  My adherence to any customs is not based upon any seasons such as winter solstice.  IN fact I could care less about the day, the date or anything else.  It is a period of time each year in which I use to reflect upon the gift of Christ and the many other blessings from God.  I then consider these gifts as an example of how Christ would expect us to give to others who may be in need.  It is a time of reflection, thanksgiving and celebration of life eternal not an annual call to action.  AGAPE Love doesn't have a season.
 
Yeah... the date doesnt matter.

As far as I know.. everyone that knows anything about the bible, about God, about Christ, about the birth knows that December 25th is just the day we observe the birth of the Christ. no one knows exactly when Jesus was born.

So for lack of an exact date... December 25th is just as good as any other date to reflect (as dudewizr stated above)
 
(dudewizr @ Dec. 12 2006,20:49)
(Revlis @ Dec. 12 2006,17:17) Yeah the reason for the season is Christ's Birthday!

WRONG!  

"Christmas" Has NOTHING to DO WITH CHRIST!  The More you swear up and down that it does the sillier you sound.

Go ahead, look it up.   It's the Winter Solstice, a Pagan celebration of the shortest day, marking a return to shorter Nights and more sun and warmth to come...  

Christians Couldn't Murder and Abuse the Pagans into NON-existence so POW here it is a "Christian Holiday".   Oh and BTW, You Pagans?  BAM YOUR Christians, look you even party on the same days...

Easter as well, SAME THING...  

So by all means, Decorate your Pagan Tree!  Hang your PAGAN Wreath, Wrap your PAGAN Gifts, and Set Fire to Your PAGAN Yule LOG, while enjoying your PAGAN Feast!    
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AND, Make darn Sure you enjoy your Tree!!!  

Heathens.  
ices_rofl.gif

Jeremiah 10:2-4 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

Public Domain
[A Public Domain Bible] [KJV at Zondervan] [Zondervan]

2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Interesting there is NO MENTION of "ChristMas" in the Bible...  Strange huh?  No mention of Wrapping Gifts etc...

How about the Easter Bunny?  NOPE nothing there either.

The Church and Money that's what it is all about...  I see GIANT Singing Christmas trees at Churches and Laugh my a55 off. Here is a Pagan Celebration, endorsed and rubber stamped by the Church.  I find it awesome that even today, Pagan rituals and symbols are featured so heavily in Christianity, especially during Solstice, Equinox etc...  

Funny how so few Christians and their churches look this in the eyes.  I suppose if they did they would have to admit that easter is a Pagan celebration ALSO not about Christ...

You want to put your faith in your Church that is now Slathered in Pagan Symbology and images?  Go ahead.  

You most likely have a Tree in the house and a wreath and lights up somewhere right?  Yup, a house FILLED TO OVERFLOWING, with Pagan ritual and images...  

It's all good, just remember that according to your own Book... "Learn not the way of the heathen"

Bunch of heathens!  
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All that being said?  IT SHOULD BE CALLED CHRISTMAS!!!  WHY?

BECAUSE that is what the Majority of Americans want...  This crybaby Bullcrap from every little religious Group and Special interest group SHOULD NOT have the RIGHT to have Trees REMOVED, or Decorations Taking DOWN!

It's Bullcrap and it's NOT what the Majority wants.  Minority Groups and Special interest groups have created a Nation of Victims supported by a legal system that allows it...

It's called DEMOCRACY and it's what the MAJORITY wants.  Not what some self important "Victim" or Victims want.

You don't want to Celebrate a Pagan holiday along with the Majority of America?  DON'T,  Do your Own thing!  But you shouldn't expect the Majority to give a rats bootie about you and your special needs or worry about weather or not you are offended...

Merry Christmas Everyone!  Hugs and Kisses!  Uncle Rev.
Taken just a bit out of context, and here's why.

The prophet Isaiah, when he prophesied of the captivity in Babylon, added warnings against idolatry and largely exposed the sottishness of idolaters, not only because the temptations in Babylon would be in danger of drawing the Jews there to idolatry, but because the afflictions in Babylon were designed to cure them of their idolatry. Thus the prophet Jeremiah here arms people against the idolatrous usages and customs of the heathen, not only for the use of those that had gone to Babylon, but of those also that staid behind, that being convinced and reclaimed, by the word of God, the rod might be prevented; and it is written for our learning. Observe here.

God would not have his people to be dismayed at the signs of heaven, to reverence the stars as deities, nor to frighten themselves with any prognostications grounded upon them. Let them fear the God of heaven, and keep up a reverence of his providence, and then they need not be dismayed at the signs of heaven, for the stars in their courses fight not against any that are at peace with God. The heathen are dismayed at these signs, for they know no better; but let not the house of Israel, that are taught of God, be so.

The way of the heathen is very ridiculous and absurd, and is condemned even by the dictates of right reason, v. 3. The statutes and ordinances of the heathen are vanity itself; they cannot stand the test of a rational disquisition. This is again and again insisted upon here, as it was by Isaiah. The Chaldeans valued themselves upon their wisdom, in which they thought that they excelled all their neighbours; but the prophet here shows that they, and all others that worshipped idols and expected help and relief from them, were brutish and sottish, and had not common sense. (1.) Consider what the idol is that is worshipped. It was a tree cut out of the forest originally. It was fitted up by the hands of the workman, squared, and sawed, and worked into shape; see Isa. 44:12, etc. But, after all, it was but the stock of a tree, fitter to make a gate-post of than any thing else. But, to hide the wood, they deck it with silver and gold, they gild or lacquer it, or they deck it with gold and silver lace, or cloth of tissue.

We are warned not to conform to the ways of the heathens.
  1.  The heathens regarded teh stars (signs of the heavens) as deities.
  2.  They worshipped idols expecting relief from them.

I put a tree up but have yet to worship it, kneel to it or expect any relief from it, and certainly do not revere any of the stars, moon or any other signs of heaven as deity.  Nor does anyone I know.  My adherence to any customs is not based upon any seasons such as winter solstice.  IN fact I could care less about the day, the date or anything else.  It is a period of time each year in which I use to reflect upon the gift of Christ and the many other blessings from God.  I then consider these gifts as an example of how Christ would expect us to give to others who may be in need.  It is a time of reflection, thanksgiving and celebration of life eternal not an annual call to action.  AGAPE Love doesn't have a season.[/Quote]
By putting the tree in your house and decorating it, you are, in a sense, worshiping it just as the heathens did.

You talk about it being a time to reflect the gift of Christ, etc. Why not do this year round? You are right AGAPE love has no season, but why is Christmas the only "season" it's practiced?
 
Well Said, Though I am curious as to Dudewizers source for his information.
 
(Relsek @ Dec. 12 2006,18:01) Merry Christmas Rev, you seem to be a bit worked up.
Good to see you hear Kevin... Not worked up, just a little caffinated.
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OK OK I'll Ask WTF is AGAPE...

Is that a Farmer Gorilla???

A Golden Chimp Perhaps....
 
(Revlis @ Dec. 12 2006,21:04) OK OK  I'll Ask WTF is AGAPE...      

Is that a Farmer Gorilla???

A Golden Chimp Perhaps....
AGAPE love = Godly love
 
(Black Bird Killer @ Dec. 12 2006,18:07)
(Revlis @ Dec. 12 2006,21:04) OK OK I'll Ask WTF is AGAPE...

Is that a Farmer Gorilla???

A Golden Chimp Perhaps....
AGAPE love = Godly love
I Think I'll stick with the Golden Chimp...
 
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