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Now alls I gotsta do is stay alive long enough to see all this sh it.
OB_Dirty Pete
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KawAbuser, re that 430 pound 340 horse bike.
To get that same power-to-weight ratio in, say, a Corvette, you'd have to install 2,680 RWHP.
Fine with me.
To get that same power-to-weight ratio in, say, a Corvette, you'd have to install 2,680 RWHP.
Fine with me.
OB_Mr Bear
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Pooh, I downloaded the video clip of the ride on the prototype Norton. It sounded pretty cool. There is a guy named Ian Drysdale in Australia who has a running prototype of a 750cc transverse V-8 sportbike also, which he intends to mass-produce. It is apparently a screamer, and he hopes to produce bigger versions.
But a hand-built prototype or a very low-number of $50,000 machines are never going to be anything I could own. I also think a transverse V-6 is a logical evolutionary step between the V-4 sportbikes already produced by Honda and any future transverse V-8 sport machine. A V-8 would be wider than a V-6 for an equal displacement machine, I think.
Those little V-8's apparently sound really wicked, though.
But a hand-built prototype or a very low-number of $50,000 machines are never going to be anything I could own. I also think a transverse V-6 is a logical evolutionary step between the V-4 sportbikes already produced by Honda and any future transverse V-8 sport machine. A V-8 would be wider than a V-6 for an equal displacement machine, I think.
Those little V-8's apparently sound really wicked, though.
OB_KawAbuser
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Mr Bear, with all that technolgy the next bikes with the magnetic valvetrain will use a GPS/onboard laptop to make corrections in the moons gravity effects, a whole new meaning for the FULL MOON. Tides and other such natural phenomena will have postive and negative effects unless we are using the DynoShuttle Moon Walker II control module, which sends by satellite the most updated magnetic cam timing maps. It is bad enough now we need computer techs to work on the fuel injection, now we will need astronomers.
Could this mean we are going full circle with science, Da Vinci, Galleao, with a touch of Nostradamus tossed in for research and developement.
Could this mean we are going full circle with science, Da Vinci, Galleao, with a touch of Nostradamus tossed in for research and developement.
OB_Mr Bear
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Well KawAbuser, the dynamo of technology rolls on...it makes sense to use a magnet to do the job of a spring if the magnet can do the job better. For valvetrains, the computer technology is there now. Using digital fuel injection to replace carbs is a good comparison, except that the potential for performance gains is greater if some major limitations of valvetrains can be overcome, than with carbs.
What holds electromagnetic valves back right now is that the technology for magnetic materials is not there yet to make them work for motorcycle engines. In ten or twenty years, who knows? Breakthroughs happen.
One safe bet is that the Hayabusa and the ZX-12 will not be the fastest bikes ever built. What type of ultimate performance streetbike do you think we will be able to buy 20 years from now? I have a guess. What kind can I get today, and what kind could I get 20 years ago? Think that much farther ahead of the hottest bikes today, (maybe a little more since technological improvement seems to speed up over time) and that's it. A bike pretty far ahead of the Busa and the 12. I like this evolution thing, personally.
[This message has been edited by Mr Bear (edited 08 February 2000).]
What holds electromagnetic valves back right now is that the technology for magnetic materials is not there yet to make them work for motorcycle engines. In ten or twenty years, who knows? Breakthroughs happen.
One safe bet is that the Hayabusa and the ZX-12 will not be the fastest bikes ever built. What type of ultimate performance streetbike do you think we will be able to buy 20 years from now? I have a guess. What kind can I get today, and what kind could I get 20 years ago? Think that much farther ahead of the hottest bikes today, (maybe a little more since technological improvement seems to speed up over time) and that's it. A bike pretty far ahead of the Busa and the 12. I like this evolution thing, personally.
[This message has been edited by Mr Bear (edited 08 February 2000).]
OB_KawAbuser
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I can't wait to see what the future brings,
Mr Bear as an owner of an older Suzuki as you are have you ever heard something like this when you go to the Suzuki parts counter,
"That is a WHAT 83 GSXR1100? I am sorry I can't find the fiche for that bike mister".
Maybe I am just too old.
Your Hayabusa is a light year or two ahead of your beloved GS1100E, yes/no?
Mr Bear as an owner of an older Suzuki as you are have you ever heard something like this when you go to the Suzuki parts counter,
"That is a WHAT 83 GSXR1100? I am sorry I can't find the fiche for that bike mister".
Maybe I am just too old.
Your Hayabusa is a light year or two ahead of your beloved GS1100E, yes/no?
OB_Mr Bear
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Actually KawAbuser, it seems like most of the parts guys at Suzuki dealerships seem to figure out which old bike I'm asking about pretty quickly. The odd thing is that some of them tell me a certain part is no longer available for that bike, but I'll go to a parts guy at another shop and he'll order it and get it for me, no problem. I figure the writing is on the wall, it's almost 20 years old, sooner or later parts will start to get hard to find.
The Busa is definitely a whole different ballgame from the GS1100E. I think it's probably like the difference between playing AAA baseball and playing in the major leagues. It's a whole level higher. Maybe it's lonely at the top, but the view sure is great!!!
The Busa is definitely a whole different ballgame from the GS1100E. I think it's probably like the difference between playing AAA baseball and playing in the major leagues. It's a whole level higher. Maybe it's lonely at the top, but the view sure is great!!!
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