an extended swingarm does not mean a lowered bike unless you want it to. i am getting a stock swingarm that has been extended and 1" RAISING links. the don't delude yourself comment, again is a matter of opinion you seem to think your opinion is the only right one. an extended arm and lowered bike probably equals a more comfortable ride on longer trips. suzuki spent alot of money and came up with overweight, quiet mufflers not the best performance exhaust. i changed out my rubber brake lines for braided lines, by your logic cause suzuki spent so much on engineering maybe i should go back to the stock rubber lines....... i would like to know what mods you have i am sure not everyone will think that you have the most awesome of everything
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Gotgixers, thanks for answering part of my response! The other issues are 1)to say "Suzuki spent millions of dollars for optimum performance" is only slightly accurate...for example, when I raised my bike 1" in the rear, it improved the handling immensely, the RaceTech suspension had profound affect on the bike, etc.,etc. 2)You say, "don't delude yourself...." my Busa is a better bike for about 30 reasons and every one of those reasons are AFTERMARKET fitment components-there's no delusion in my camp, only r&d and experimentation. 3)I said "a 0-6" swingarm, that means the stronger, lighter, better looking arm will be at OEM spec wheelbase most of the time, when I go to Bonneville, or to the dragstrip, it will be slightly extended for stability in one case, wheelstand resistance in the other. I could ramble on for hours but that's enough for now! Respectfully, Raydog
Raydog that is a sweet pic. sadly you will need to return all those radical aftermarket parts or i will be reporting you to the suzuki engineers a.s.a.p.
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Speaking of which... I am going to retire out to the garage now and put my 2-4" extensions and my new "ZZZ" chain, and GP exhaust on now. And you ask WHY?? 'Cause this Busa is for show and GO baby... Maybe after this i can dial in a full shot of juice!!! Dragstrip in March, Maxton after that...
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"On top of that, having the rear wheel stick out behind the tailpiece looks ungainly and compromises the lines of the bike."
You know as has been said before, this is what makes the busa such a great bike that it's so versatile to suit all types of preferences. Not everyone likes my long arm or my loud pipes, but guess who is digging it, yep me
You know as has been said before, this is what makes the busa such a great bike that it's so versatile to suit all types of preferences. Not everyone likes my long arm or my loud pipes, but guess who is digging it, yep me
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i can understand a busa if your going to drag race or do a big power adder but what i don`t understand is all these guys that stretch ther gixxer 600`s,750`s and 1000`s
along with my busa i have a 1000 and that bike is sick in the twisties (what it`s made for) and would never stretch it because imo you would just ruin it. as far as the busa to each his own,it really is just a street/drag bike. i don`t drag race mine or have a turbo so i`ll leave mine stock.....for now
Brian,how long are you extending your arm ? The reason i ask is you stated you will be using 1'' riseing links. The extended arm will be raising the bike,with the links the c/g will be pretty high.an extended swingarm does not mean a lowered bike unless you want it to. i am getting a stock swingarm that has been extended and 1" RAISING links. the don't delude yourself comment, again is a matter of opinion you seem to think your opinion is the only right one. an extended arm and lowered bike probably equals a more comfortable ride on longer trips. suzuki spent alot of money and came up with overweight, quiet mufflers not the best performance exhaust. i changed out my rubber brake lines for braided lines, by your logic cause suzuki spent so much on engineering maybe i should go back to the stock rubber lines....... i would like to know what mods you have i am sure not everyone will think that you have the most awesome of everything
Ever been on that road with a new bridge on one end.
An extended wheelbase makes the bike more comfortable on the open road. As far as handling goes, i was lowered and extended 6" at the 05' Va fall ride and i ended up running 4-5th fastest in the pack out of about 50 people. It's all about adjusting your riding techniques to suit the situation. I've been lifted, lowered, extended..... just about every configuration you can do to a Busa. It's only once you get past 6" extention that it starts to hurt handling.
The other thing i wanted to comment on was the way Suzuki designed the bike. The Gen1 Busa design is not Suzuki's final attempt at a perfect Busa for that era bike. They design a bike to perform for a spectrum of riders. Meaning, that it's gonna work for a rider in Europe all the way to a guy in Virginia.
It's really up to the owner to make the bike fit them, not Suzuki.
The other thing i wanted to comment on was the way Suzuki designed the bike. The Gen1 Busa design is not Suzuki's final attempt at a perfect Busa for that era bike. They design a bike to perform for a spectrum of riders. Meaning, that it's gonna work for a rider in Europe all the way to a guy in Virginia.
It's really up to the owner to make the bike fit them, not Suzuki.
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GM: It'll actually affect the handling if you extend it 1/2"....however, I would give you that past 6" it becomes noticeable. It's all about what you can handle. I'll give you this example....it doesnt translate exactly to bikes, but it gives you an idea:
What has a better turning radius, a lincoln town car, or a lincoln town car limousine with a 10' stretch? Why?
If you extand the wheelbase on ANYTHING, and ANY amount, your turning radius goes with it. Granted, on a motorcycle, you can counter that to some degree by an increased lean angle in a turn. Once you get past a ceratin point though (to use your argument, we'll say 6") it gets to a point where you cannot compensate for it any longer.
if, theoretically, you stretched the back end of a busa 10 feet, you couldnt get it around ANY normal city street corner. I know thats taking things to a ridiculous extreme, but you get the idea....as your stretch length gets longer, your turning radius increases.
What has a better turning radius, a lincoln town car, or a lincoln town car limousine with a 10' stretch? Why?
If you extand the wheelbase on ANYTHING, and ANY amount, your turning radius goes with it. Granted, on a motorcycle, you can counter that to some degree by an increased lean angle in a turn. Once you get past a ceratin point though (to use your argument, we'll say 6") it gets to a point where you cannot compensate for it any longer.
if, theoretically, you stretched the back end of a busa 10 feet, you couldnt get it around ANY normal city street corner. I know thats taking things to a ridiculous extreme, but you get the idea....as your stretch length gets longer, your turning radius increases.
I extended because I like the looks and I can accell erate harder without the wheeel coming up . ( wheelies were going to get me in trouble )! Yes I did lose alot of twisties ability but I like straight and fast. Don't get me wrong I do love the twisties and the busa was very good at it but if you want twisties get a liter bike . I like to drag !
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Well, I'm going with a 0-6 over swingarm for mine this winter.
I live in friggin' Indiana....what are these "twisties" you speak of?
All joking aside, I like twisties as well, but there just arent any in my neck of the woods, so I'm not going to be losing much goin +6 on the wheelbase. if I still lived in SC, I wouldnt even consider going to a longer swingarm.
I live in friggin' Indiana....what are these "twisties" you speak of?
All joking aside, I like twisties as well, but there just arent any in my neck of the woods, so I'm not going to be losing much goin +6 on the wheelbase. if I still lived in SC, I wouldnt even consider going to a longer swingarm.
The Shenandoah valley in Va was my back yard for years. Believe it or not, hitting the curves got old. Since there was a dragstrip 3 miles down the road, i chose the lowered&extended route.(IMO the way a Busa looks best)
Wheelbase/handling is all realative to what your used to riding. You cannot compare an extended Busa to a Liter. While a longer wheelbase can affect handling somewhat, it's nowhere near as bad as half you guys think it is.
Don't assume, learn from experience. I did.
Wheelbase/handling is all realative to what your used to riding. You cannot compare an extended Busa to a Liter. While a longer wheelbase can affect handling somewhat, it's nowhere near as bad as half you guys think it is.
Don't assume, learn from experience. I did.
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A long way south of you.I get killer high milage out of my tires cause I cruise to the south to play.I run to Brown,Jackson,Monroe & Larence counties,a couple decent roads in Morgan.Check the map where Bedford,In is.I've put at least 10k on my busa just running that route from home.Well, I'm going with a 0-6 over swingarm for mine this winter.
I live in friggin' Indiana....what are these "twisties" you speak of?
All joking aside, I like twisties as well, but there just arent any in my neck of the woods, so I'm not going to be losing much goin +6 on the wheelbase. if I still lived in SC, I wouldnt even consider going to a longer swingarm.
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