Faithful husbands/ faithful relationships

I'm not a saint by any stretch. I've had my share of drug use, alcohol abuse, and have seen and done things I wouldnt wish on anyone. Cheating to any degree was never one of them. I'm only recently out of a "marriage" that lasted almost 15 years. Actually, the 17th of this month would have made 16 years. A message she sent to her ex boyfriend was what began a long and painful separation. We even tried to fix it.

Everyone makes a mistake. As long as you learn from it because a mistake is only made once. Second and subsequent times makes it a choice.
 
Cheating is for unhappy people. If you're unhappy, just move on. Dont cause pain to someone else just because you can do it.
not for nothing man... some people cheat cause the excitement is gone.. don't confuse sex with love.... and don't take it soooooo personal if ure cheated on... if u didn't have alllllll ure eggs in one basket u wouldn't be sooo devastated and unable to forgive.... females are flawed and complicated creatures.... even if u think u know EVERYTHING about that person... u don't.... if u leave a wife cause she cheated on u once.... how deep was ure bond? just forgive her.... get a lapdance and ure even.... life is tooo short.... u might think im crazy.. but I wouldn't end 15 years cause of a message... or even an affair.... I got bigger fish to fry.
 
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not for nothing man... some people cheat cause the excitement is gone.. don't confuse sex with love.... and don't take it soooooo personal if ure cheated on... if u didn't have alllllll ure eggs in one basket u wouldn't be sooo devastated and unable to forgive.... females are flawed and complicated creatures.... even if u think u know EVERYTHING about that person... u don't.... if u leave a wife cause she cheated on u once.... how deep was ure bond? just forgive her.... get a lapdance and ure even.... life is tooo short.... u might think im crazy.. but I wouldn't end 15 years cause of a message... or even an affair.... I got bigger fish to fry.

I didnt end a marriage because of a message. She ended the marriage because we just fell apart. It was way deeper than just that message. I dont go into deep details with many people. Now we are best friends because we want it that way. Not just because of the kids.
 
I didnt end a marriage because of a message. She ended the marriage because we just fell apart. It was way deeper than just that message. I dont go into deep details with many people. Now we are best friends because we want it that way. Not just because of the kids.
good for u... u seemed sad about it... it feels good to forgive... I just don't forget.... if ure looking for hookups or even a new relationship... I cannot recommend POF enough... but u gotta bring ure a-game... be in shape.. take good pictures.
 
good for u... u seemed sad about it... it feels good to forgive... I just don't forget.... if ure looking for hookups or even a new relationship... I cannot recommend POF enough... but u gotta bring ure a-game... be in shape.. take good pictures.
Ahhh, the inexperience and folly of youth. Young bruh, you will learn that there are things you value more than others, that where you ask a question determines the response, and that all things that seem to be lined with gold, aren't.
Pick the wrong one and your entire world will be destabilized. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
Take note young buck, they're all crazy. Some of them just hide it better than others......
 
Then I guess ALI is a sign of the new age. For us OLD TIMERS, we sort of establish the terms of the relationship foundation. Trust being one. Its built up by both sides. If part of that trust is expected fidelity then there isn't really an excuse for a one time pass because it wasn't like it wasn't a known thing.

Look as an OLD Timer I have done a lot seen a lot, been thru a lot. I have had multiple 3somes with 2 women and not with the same 2 women. It happened because there was trust involved for all in the process. Guidelines were established etc. The last thing I needed to do was decide I could do what I want and expect to be forgiven. This may sound odd to you when you read this, but in the instances above it was OK for us to all have these together, but had I decided that I could go elsewhere to find another woman , trust me the 2, I just cheated on would have had a serious trust issue and would not be letting me return to what they offered. Nothing wrong with being that enjoy women and maybe walking on the wild side a bit, but people do put weight in trust. At least the ones that like us Old Timers. :-)

If I think its OK for me to cheat then I should also think its OK for her to cheat. If I think I can have it both ways, I'll be a very single man and not of my choosing.

I don't object to you forgiving them if you make that choice. For myself, I spend too much time establishing trust, to give someone a pass when they betray it. Not saying you're wrong ALI. I think its noble of you to forgive. But I am not troubled at all in my choices or expectations. And I don't have troubled relationships. I discovered once that I had a g/f that cheated. Once I knew it was true, and trust me I took a lot of time to look at what was going on. But the moment I knew for sure, it was easy. It was over. No discussion needed. I didn't have any moral struggles with kicking her out of my life at that moment.
 
And Ali now I'm going to tell you a story about my brother. He felt the same way as your friend. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Etc. He has cheated on every woman he was ever with. Been married 3 times. Cheated on them as well. So he has no eggs, no basket, and nobody thinking he's worth their time. He taught his soon that cheating was OK at an early age. His son followed in his footsteps until he hit about 30 and started to realize that he was getting nowhere with women. Even though he had no shortage of them.

Here's the way I view the Eggs and a Basket.

Find an egg you like. Hope you don't need more. But keep your basket handy if things change. I enjoy my relationship I'm in a lot. And I don't hope it fails. And I try to make sure I do may part. But if it ends, I dust off my basket and go hunting again. My life will not be defined by staying in a failed relationship. Nor will it be defined by having to have one. I'm perfectly fine being single. But as hard as it is to find a good one to be with, the last thing I will do is give her the impression that she is just another egg in my basket. However she knows that she doesn't define me nor I her.
 
if u don't mind me askin…. u said u turned it down.... what were the circumstances? and age?
I was married at 19. She was 24. I was also military. Traveled a lot. I was sent to pick up a new Photographic analyst that was incoming to our unit. I was maybe 21 by then. What came off that plane was one of the most beautiful women I had ever seen. Fresh out of 10 months of tech school stateside. It was about an hourish back to the base. After waiting on her luggage.

Before we got off the base, she made it clear she was raging horny and needed to get her hands on a partner soon. I said as nicely as I could, that I'm sure she'd find a willing male to accommodate her in about 10 minutes. Her response was, Well its been 20 already and you ain't acting very interested. I could have had a very quick and hot encounter that I would have never gotten caught in. I told her that I had a wife waiting for me and I doubt she'd want to meet you...in sort of a light hearted comedic way to keep the mood light.

I said I have no intention of disappointing anyone but her (the new recruit) and apologized that it wasn't going to be me. I said you won't need more than an hour once you get to base quarters.

She arrived. Before I got her bags unloaded she had 2 men introducing themselves to her.

I dealt with more than that offer along the way that I could have gotten away with cleanly. But in my heart it wasn't right, in my head I knew if the situation was reversed I wouldn't want my partner to act on these either. I think if I would have, my sense of guilt would have gotten the best of me. I can count probably 6 times where this happened along the way.

In one instance a woman who I knew was clearly married, hit on me at a hotel we were both in. I knew she was married because she was talking to her husband on the phone before she started hitting on me. Look for all I know they may have had some sort of agreement between them that it was OK. None of my business. But she was pretty upfront about it when she came right out and said, hurry up and finish that drink so we can go upstairs. After we had been having sort of idle chat. Nothing overt but some open minded discussions. She just came right out with it. Initially I said is there a lounge upstairs I don't know about? Thinking she just wanted to take the chat to a different lounge. She said the only one she knew of was in her room. I said Thanks but no thanks. She was like that's too bad because I REALLY enjoy sex, you're loss. And she left.

I saw her the next morning as we were both checking out. She never even looked over at me then.

I was I think 30ish for that one. I'd guess she was about the same.
 
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I'll also add that because of my thought process, I have turned down sex due to my at the time current relationship as well as in my single life. I'm single now and can do bad all by myself. Granted I am still sleeping with my ex wife but again that's a comfort thing for the both of us. I dont sleep with women I'm not in a relationship with nor do I go out looking for women.

The last girlfriend I had which was April of last year, I told her out right. I'll cook for you and you will always come home to a clean house. I'll worry about car repairs and all. Only thing I ask in return is loyalty and I will reciprocate the same. Because she was 8 years my junior with no kids, she is a party animal and she allowed another man to come between us. She and I no longer talk, largely in part because of her own insecurities as well as being brain washed by others, but I forgive her for what she did to me and i would welcome her back into my life in a split second without question or hesitation. I'm not a party person. I dont drink, dont go to clubs or strip clubs.

The hardest part about having such a big heart is forgiving anyone regardless. That's the cost of unconditional love and support.
 
It's so good to be living a celibate life, so peaceful and so simple. No distractions, no issues, no arguments, no FIGHTING, only clear direction and a clear mind, and of course . . . . PLENTY of BUSA time ! ! ! :thumbsup:
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wow! Now I don't have to buy Penthouse magazine to read the forum. cool! How many of you are old enough to remember that?
I was reluctant to disclose these precisely because I didn't want have the thread turn into the PH forums.

I am not going to lie. I have had a pretty good life when it comes to ummm off color experiences. I have little regret, but I'm not wanting to share sordid aspects in public. It's really our private lives.
 
Thanks Ali, you've really opened a great big can of worms here lol!

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