Flickin' the 'Busa

I use engine braking, front brakes i"m always hangin off the side and counter steering you must steer a BUSA it does seem to have momemtum.I have a sense of confidence and I think its because of the weight I also look where I want to go but when your in the zone everything comes together
 
I lean this-a-way and then gas it, then I lean that-a-way and then gas it. Repeat until you run out of twisties.

Then tuck, twist, and hang on, 200 is just up ahead!!
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I got out and tried some of the techniques you guys stated, using the inside peg to push back up, leaning forward, and to one side or the other, and it worked great! I got "hooked up" like I haven't in some time. You know, like when you're just moving through the twisties, not having to think, Ok do this, Ok do that, just that being at one with the bike, and going fast.
 
Hi BigO---time for me to respond....And thanks for others who wrote. Today i rode the Busa up and down a major mountain pass....to and from work...the road is like sick smooth GP track
few bumps ...great traction..pray you don't hit oil or gasoline....Bike had full fuel...bankin' into these 70+ mph sweepers is more fun than @#$......and lasts longer..My feeling is the Busa is super stable....but very heavy..one must concentrate "Very hard"  to keep on your intended path...Takes 100% concentration or i would taste the concrete dividing wall...I like it..but very serious...control is a must on a weighty machine like this..weight shifting has to be done..to get it right...AAAHHH!!! Busa's in the garage..tires are nice and scuffed...50 mph speed limit..bummer....Ok gang
be as safe as you can and have fun...Super Gt..Bike...
 
Since the Busa has so much power and since my last bike was a big heavy FJ, I'v learned to use the following method.

I like to brake as hard as possible before and JUST coming into the turn. I don't use the rear at all. When braking that hard the rear is not only useless, but dangerous. At that point I get totally off the brakes and square off the corner as much as possible then get on the gas right away. I like to keep the RPM's at around 3k going into the turn. This way you have all the power you can use when getting on the gas early, and with heavy throttle coming out of the turn, the building engine torque will shoot you out of the corner like a sling shot.

Getting off the brakes before turning and getting on the gas ASAP right after the apex keeps the weight transfer good all the way through. This way the weight transfer is accomplished at the apex where the speed is the slowest so the weight transfer happens at the least critical time.

Keeping the RPM's lower also avoids upsetting the balance of the bike by keeping it hard to inadvertantly get the wheel to spin. Best part about this method is that it is very safe but give you a lot of g forces for great feedback. It also minimizes lean which is also a lot safer. Speed AND safety...that's the ticket.

On big sweepers I just use a shallower approach just as mentioned above.

I just posted a message in the tech section about suspension settings I found online that work VERY well. That'll help your cornering too.
 
I have an excellent run every day on the way home from work. I run from the 210 freeway to angeles crest, run that to angeles forest hwy to the 14. the bike isn't as heavy as my old cbr 1000 huricane just a little longer. the throttle is a lot more responsive, that you have to get used to. I could roll on in a turn on the cbr and not worry, roll on a little on the busa and look out, she wants to fly,

yes the busa is a wide turn high speed rocket and is at its best there. in the twisties it takes work. but what fun work it is.
 
this weekend
spokane race park
spokane washington.
come see just how fast a busa can take a corner. been road racing mine since 2000.
It isn't as fast as some but is big enough to block most.
 
All this talk is sprinkled with mention of cornering RPM... and did anyone mention which gear they are using @ what speed?

I think I'll make a poll about it. (might need 2)

I've been playing around with my Busa cornering technique now for about a month, got it on 5 July, and with +1000 miles I'm liking the edge of the power band 5+K'ish to 6.5K'ish for cornering.  This is just starting to get into the growl, sounds great, and there is enough fine tuning response to get and keep me where I want to be.  Most of the time the twisties are in either 2nd or 3rd gear.  
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As to Flicking it?   It is one h*!! of a lot EZ'r than my old ST1100, so I have to think about how I do it.  Hmmm, It is a combination of lift (with countersteer) on the grips and pressure on the foot peg on the side I am transitioning to. (Lift and stomp)
 
Man you guys have some good advice. I love racing my Busa, suprises a lot of people when i'm at a track day ("...holy crap! A Busa?! What is that doing here?)

Get your suspension set up to your weight at a nearby race shop. Get good tires, I personally love the 208GPa's. Most of the time, you'll set these and any other tires around 30 psi, with the front 1-2 psi less. Give it time, but after awhile 'emulate' Hayden or Rossi or whoever, get off the seat and lean forward and look waaaaaaaayyyy deep.

I go to Fontana out here in Cali all the time, but I'd say the funnest was doing 120 mph knee downs at Willow Springs turn number 2. Awesome, awesome track.
 
Hi fellas,
just had to ressurect this topic :D Many excellent words...

I regularly ride the N. Georgia mountains with the local sportbikes. I usually keep up with the light bikes - unless we get into the 10-30mph (really technical stuff), or I'm ridin with the WERA fellas - dayum they're fast. Couple thoughts:
1) I work my ass off.
2) IMHO, get a better front brake setup (the stockers become inconsistent after many hard applications). I'm switching to EBC HH pads and steel lines.
3) I must watch my corner entry speeds, especially going downhill The front tire eventually complains. Drop a gear and get engine braking.
4) Beware rider fatigue - my biggest enemy. I'm trying to learn not to wait 'til I start making mistakes to slow down. Don't let your brain write checks that your body can't cash.

Sometimes I hear, "Damn, the 'busa's keeping up with us - wtf...?"

Steve C.
 
No GA has some killer raods! In-Law's are near Stone Mountain and we go up the the mountains for the views and hiking. I wish I had the busa when I'm out there. There's nothing like scaring some 600's with the Busa!!!!
 
Big O try staying higher in the revs,it will offer more control,rolling on and off smoothly in higher rpm transitions can come more easily.Some cases break wont be needed.Counter steer amount and speed at which it is done as well as body position will aid in quik turn ins.
 
I've touched my pucks down a few times ripping through the Rockies out here - The Busa definitely handles twisties no problem ...
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Well, I touched my right puck once, but my left I've touched many times - I must be fatter on the left side or something
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we just had a discussion about draggin parts on another board.. draggin parts is not good. it denotes bad body positioning. if u are dragging like ur exhaust can, u can lighten the rear tire and baaaad things can happen. this also can happen draggin peg. when u see a pro dragging a peg or somethin it usually means he has exhausted all other means of leaning.
for the body positioning u are probably sitting to upright and need to hang off to gain clearance. just my .02
 
you guys have some great info-when in the twisties my main objective is to look thru the turns and dont get in too hot:)
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I love curves. Been doing track days - it's the 3rd season. 2 years on Katana 600, this season on the 'Busa (got her in December).

I was the only guy on Katana at the time, and the only guy on the 'Busa who does track days consistently. Have no problem flicking the thing. Actaully, Katana was noticeably harder to flick.

I think that the 'Busa is very flickable, unless you race - then every ounce of effort counts. And, for those who feel it's not as flickable, I have an easy solution - go to the gym and work out a little.

Did 3 track days on my 'Busa this season and love the thing.

Would it be a proper place to stick a picture?
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