Gen 3 BT Moto Handheld Flash Review

[havabusa]

I went with BT for my '18 Grand America in 2019; I was happy. After several factory ECU updates (I return my bike to stock when I drop it off at the dealer) the HH was mis-matched, so I needed to unlock it and then get a new map built by BT - it wasn't cheap.

When the flashers finally cracked the 2020 ZH2, Frank at SLR tuning was highly recommended. I chose him because he was selling the HHs for about $200 less. SLR for my '22 busa, my '22 Tuono V4 Factory and my '22 Speed Triple RR. Frank will often times have sales.

BTW - The Ape and Triumph only have about 1K miles on them, and I bought them as leftovers in '23. I'm not sure if it's temporary, but after
42+ years and 30 + bikes, I wonder if it's time. I have a 12 right now, so MAKE AN OFFER!

 

[Duro5341]

Is there any way to keep the stock tuning maps and only remove the speed limiter and lower the cooling fan temperature?

The bike is still under warranty so I don't want to get to crazy with the tuning, but I would like the speed limiter removed and have the cooling fan turn on a bit earlier as I think it waits to long from factory to turn on. Overall I'm happy with the bike so far, just these 2 niggles.

Does the bike have "options" that you can turn on and adjust like some car manufactures to, or some tuners for changing tire sizes and other basic settings?, or is everything hardwired on the tune itself.

Cameron

 

[havabusa]

Is there any way to keep the stock tuning maps and only remove the speed limiter and lower the cooling fan temperature?

The bike is still under warranty so I don't want to get to crazy with the tuning, but I would like the speed limiter removed and have the cooling fan turn on a bit earlier as I think it waits to long from factory to turn on. Overall I'm happy with the bike so far, just these 2 niggles.

Does the bike have "options" that you can turn on and adjust like some car manufactures to, or some tuners for changing tire sizes and other basic settings?, or is everything hardwired on the tune itself.

Cameron

Usually, you can contact the "Flasher" and ask. They may be able to map one of the modes the way that you want, and have A mode as the all-out, max power mode, or whatever.

 

[sixpack577]

Is there any way to keep the stock tuning maps and only remove the speed limiter and lower the cooling fan temperature?

The bike is still under warranty so I don't want to get to crazy with the tuning, but I would like the speed limiter removed and have the cooling fan turn on a bit earlier as I think it waits to long from factory to turn on. Overall I'm happy with the bike so far, just these 2 niggles.

Does the bike have "options" that you can turn on and adjust like some car manufactures to, or some tuners for changing tire sizes and other basic settings?, or is everything hardwired on the tune itself.

Cameron

Yes, you can

 

[chrisso]

Is there any way to keep the stock tuning maps and only remove the speed limiter and lower the cooling fan temperature?

Woolich software and Log Box lets you do all that with a click of the mouse - I'll be doing exactly that to my gen 3, probably over the weekend

 

[Duro5341]

Woolich software and Log Box lets you do all that with a click of the mouse - I'll be doing exactly that to my gen 3, probably over the weekend

https://www.woolichracing.com/produ...ox-d-can-zeitronix-zt-3-wideband-package.aspx

So if I bought this kit, I could write the ECU and simply turn off the limiter and lower the fan temperature?

Now, I know this kit is over kill with the AFR sensor, but I am thinking for future tuning and modification down the road that's all.

For Right now, I am happy with the OEM tune, just these 2 niggles are what's bothering me right now.

As a licensed Automotive Tech myself ECU flashing is nothing new, but I haven't done much of it on Bikes that's all.

Cameron

 

[Cruising180]

https://www.woolichracing.com/produ...ox-d-can-zeitronix-zt-3-wideband-package.aspx

So if I bought this kit, I could write the ECU and simply turn off the limiter and lower the fan temperature?

Now, I know this kit is over kill with the AFR sensor, but I am thinking for future tuning and modification down the road that's all.

For Right now, I am happy with the OEM tune, just these 2 niggles are what's bothering me right now.

As a licensed Automotive Tech myself ECU flashing is nothing new, but I haven't done much of it on Bikes that's all.

Cameron

Keep in mind even on brand new bikes almost none of them use a wideband o2 sensor stock. It's weird to think my 2018 Focus ST is more advanced than my 2023 Busa in that way.

 

[Duro5341]

Keep in mind even on brand new bikes almost none of them use a wideband o2 sensor stock. It's weird to think my 2018 Focus ST is more advanced than my 2023 Busa in that way.

From what I understand the wideband is really only for data logging and fine tuning the maps when I eventually get there.
But the time I get there, I'll have a full exhaust system and a separate bung for this sensor specifically for tuning. When the tuning is done a short bolt will be put in to seal the hole, but removable for any future modifications.

I am just thinking to buy everything NOW, that way I have it when the time comes.
For right now I would just use the Log Box and Software to make these 2 simple changes and keep the maps, and other settings completely stock.

Cameron

 

[KoMoDo]

Woolich Logbox'ı kurdum ve muhtemelen Akro 4'ü 1 arada'yı satın aldıktan sonra bu hizmeti kullanacağım.

 

[KoMoDo]

Woolich software and Log Box lets you do all that with a click of the mouse - I'll be doing exactly that to my gen 3, probably over the weekend

I am eagerly waiting for the results.. Can you keep us informed of the developments?

 

[chrisso]

https://www.woolichracing.com/produ...ox-d-can-zeitronix-zt-3-wideband-package.aspx

So if I bought this kit, I could write the ECU and simply turn off the limiter and lower the fan temperature?

Yes sir, and much more. Are you also buying the Wideband package for some autotuning?? My next investment will be the Woolich quickshifter, which I've heard a lot of good things about. According to Woolich, the software lets you adjust:

• IAP Fuel Maps
• TPS Fuel Maps
• Ignition Timing Maps
• Ignition Dwell Map/s
• Electronic Throttle Valve (ETV) Maps
• Injector Balance Map/s
• RPM Limiter
• Fan Temperature
• Disable Evap / Purge Valve
• Disable Stock O2 Sensor
• Disable Deceleration Fuel Cut
• Disable PAIR Valve / AIS
• Disable Top Speed Limiter
• Engine Data - View Live Engine Data
• Woolich Racing AutoTune - (Requires Applicable LogBox + Zeitronix Package)
• Diagnostics: Read and Clear Fault Codes - (Requires Applicable V3 Interface)

What is not on the list but also very useful, is that you can turn off IAC so you can balance throttle bodies correctly.

 

[Duro5341]

Yes sir, and much more. Are you also buying the Wideband package for some autotuning??

This is the long-term game plan yes............................While it's under warranty for the next 3 years I'll simply stick with the OEM maps and simply turn off the speed limiter and turn the fan turn on temp down a bit to come on early.

Once it is out of warranty, I'll put a full exhaust system on it and do a full proper Dyno tune on it.

Figured I mid-swell buy it all now, as prices are ONLY going to go up on this stuff.
Then I will have all the tools needed to properly tune the bike for the exhaust and air filter modifications.

Cameron

 

[Flows]

I went with BT for my '18 Grand America in 2019; I was happy. After several factory ECU updates (I return my bike to stock when I drop it off at the dealer) the HH was mis-matched, so I needed to unlock it and then get a new map built by BT - it wasn't cheap.

When the flashers finally cracked the 2020 ZH2, Frank at SLR tuning was highly recommended. I chose him because he was selling the HHs for about $200 less. SLR for my '22 busa, my '22 Tuono V4 Factory and my '22 Speed Triple RR. Frank will often times have sales.

BTW - The Ape and Triumph only have about 1K miles on them, and I bought them as leftovers in '23. I'm not sure if it's temporary, but after
42+ years and 30 + bikes, I wonder if it's time. I have a 12 right now, so MAKE AN OFFER!

What is Frank like to deal with? Sometimes tuners get jittery if they sense fussiness or tech savvy..

 

[Flows]

Just spoke to him, seems like an OK guy. Have bought their handheld option, will see how that goes.