gen 3 motor failure

[pcs]

its not a catastrophic failure but one was bound to fail with the amount of people racing these bikes.

 

[2000TransAm24]

What gets me is dyno/race videos where people haven't even hit 600 miles yet and just giving their bikes hell. I paid good money I'm going to break it in properly before I start pushing it to the limit. Not saying that's the case here but If it's what the dealership tells me then I'm going to follow their advice.

 

[pcs]

ive always broke in my bikes and engines ive rebuilt. common practice with pro engine builders and suzuki recommends it for the busa. i do know of people that ride the psss out of their bikes straight off the lot and don’t have issues. pro riders on a prepped track is harder on a bike than an average joe on the street just blasting down the highway.

 

[prg]

That failure clearly proves busa engines are overated
Give me a Wunhanglo anyday

 

[BlueBacon]

its not a catastrophic failure but one was bound to fail with the amount of people racing these bikes.

HA! I just watched his follow up video earlier this morning...I was wondering if the gen3 folks saw it yet.

 

[Bumblebee]

Then we get a guy like @dadofthree who has more zero issue miles on his new bike than many have on bikes a few years old........

 

[sixpack577]

Hard break-ins have been proven safe and effective many times.
That failure had to be an out of spec and/or broken keeper, valve stem(keeper grooves), or mechanical part that could not do what it was supposed to.
That's not from doing anything wrong.
It's sad that's not under warranty.
Suzuki pays the Dealer for warranty repairs anyway.

 

[Ked0607]

I just wish he would have ridden and broken it in better. Besides he had to have been planning on modding the bike with stronger better internals anyhow. I watched both videos. I think its time to throw the book at it and just build it all the way out in the 1500 cc range. Then supercharge it.

 

[Hayabusa Wannabe]

Seems to indicate the valves were excessively loose from the factory (?)

 

[prg]

Has there Ever been a new engine which Hasn't had teething problems

 

[sixpack577]

Has there Ever been a new engine which Hasn't had teething problems

Suzuki still should've covered that.
That Dealer is pretty sorry, especially to a man that has bought several bikes there.

 

[Ked0607]

Suzuki still should've covered that.
That Dealer is pretty sorry, especially to a man that has bought several bikes there.

my dealer told me Suzuki is covering less and less especially with the "pandemic" . Guys are paying for engine builders to repair and replace stuff after warranty is denied and its screwing the dealers out of money. Its not in the dealers interest to deny warranty work. It looses them customers. This guy didnt want to wait the months of time for suzuki to cover it which he stated in his second video anyhow. Ive watched both these videos now three times since yesterday and I think its worded as clickbait for views.

 

[Bumblebee]

my dealer told me Suzuki is covering less and less especially with the "pandemic" . Guys are paying for engine builders to repair and replace stuff after warranty is denied and its screwing the dealers out of money. Its not in the dealers interest to deny warranty work. It looses them customers. This guy didnt want to wait the months of time for suzuki to cover it which he stated in his second video anyhow. Ive watched both these videos now three times since yesterday and I think its worded as clickbait for views.

Even before the pandemic it seems there was less and less being covered and what was being covered was being looked after slower than molasses flowing uphill on a cold winter day...

Look at @fallenarch 's 1600 Beemer with the transmission woes....3-6 months to fix it under warranty....crazy....

I've heard many other horror stories as well.

 

[prg]

Feel for the chap of course. But it's a risk you are aware of. That being the manufacturer may, or quite likely, won't honour their warranty if it has had a hard break in and something breaks. You'd think they'd offer Something as a goodwill gesture.
Open and shut case if it's owner error from the manufacturers perspective. Pity he can't prove it was defective from the factory somehow,though they'd still wiggle out no doubt.
Shame whatever.

 

[sixpack577]

Feel for the chap of course. But it's a risk you are aware of. That being the manufacturer may, or quite likely, won't honour their warranty if it has had a hard break in and something breaks. You'd think they'd offer Something as a goodwill gesture.
Open and shut case if it's owner error from the manufacturers perspective. Pity he can't prove it was defective from the factory somehow,though they'd still wiggle out no doubt.
Shame whatever.

It wasn't a hard break-in, but that the dealer knew it had been on the drag strip, as to why they wouldn't cover it under warranty.

 

[prg]

I meant hard break in from the manufacturers viewpoint. As in dragging it with only 300 miles thereby taking it over the prescribed running in rev limit therefore voiding the warranty

 

[JeffSyh]

Hard break-ins have been proven safe and effective many times.
That failure had to be an out of spec and/or broken keeper, valve stem(keeper grooves), or mechanical part that could not do what it was supposed to.
That's not from doing anything wrong.
It's sad that's not under warranty.
Suzuki pays the Dealer for warranty repairs anyway.

This a million percent...

 

[mabupa]

Seems to indicate the valves were excessively loose from the factory (?)

I watched his 1st video when he first uploaded and then the follow up popped up on my list of suggestions last night and It was interesting to see how 3 cylinders had shims pretty close in numbers, but the #1 (bad one) was smaller and way too lose. All the lip smacking and repeating the same thing over and over had my left eye twitching and makes those videos 3 times longer than they should be , but still interesting failure and findings. I hope that was just an isolated case and I’m with @sixpack577, you would think the dealer would put more effort into at least getting it looked since it sounds like the man has bought several hayabusas and claims the dealer is great.

 

[dadofthree]

Then we get a guy like @dadofthree who has more zero issue miles on his new bike than many have on bikes a few years old........

I ride hard, not drag bike hard but hard. Front brake issue on the G3

 

[VIPER]

Ride em like you stole em from the beginning. Have on every new busa i have bought with zero issues. I do the same on cars, trucks, 4 wheelers, literally everything.