GregBob's down but not out!!!
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Well it shows you're exploring the edge! Your skills are obviously exponentially increasing and after reading TufBusa's and your posts, your attitude sounds good as well. Thanks for your literary efforts, it helps us all improve in our sport. Doyle
The GregBob has moved up to a level that has potential pitfalls scattered throughout the track. I'm sure the cause is not singular. Usually the cause of a get off of this sort has many demons lurking in the background which none alone would lead to a get off. I'd guess the results was a multitude of factors which stacked on top of each other causes the tire to give up traction.
GregBob was out on his beloved busa for two days of fun in Spokane (Thursday and Friday) Was great fun in the sun, 70+ degrees both days without a cloud in the sky. Only a few crashes of which none were in our group. +1 for staying on two wheels!
Greg will be just fine. He, like most of the rest of us, just needs a few track days under his belt in order to totally wipe his get off from the brain waves while romping around the track. And,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, we need to get his favored track bike back in good shape. Once the track junky cupid had struck, nothing will keep you on the sidelines
GregBob was out on his beloved busa for two days of fun in Spokane (Thursday and Friday) Was great fun in the sun, 70+ degrees both days without a cloud in the sky. Only a few crashes of which none were in our group. +1 for staying on two wheels!
Greg will be just fine. He, like most of the rest of us, just needs a few track days under his belt in order to totally wipe his get off from the brain waves while romping around the track. And,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, we need to get his favored track bike back in good shape. Once the track junky cupid had struck, nothing will keep you on the sidelines
Glad you're ok man! Watch out with them Gixxers. They have a tendency to really get crazy lean angles with high corner speeds. It's easy to tuck the front. Especially when you really start pushing the front and it feels so compliant and smooth. Before you know it, the front tire has pretty much exceeded the limit. I've done it a good five or six times since I switched from Busa to Gixxer and moved up to A group 2 years ago.
BTW-are you a heavy trail braker? I've only started trailing about 1 1/2 years ago. I've never gone down from trailing, but all the times I've tucked it usually from too much corner speed with too much lean angle.
BTW-are you a heavy trail braker? I've only started trailing about 1 1/2 years ago. I've never gone down from trailing, but all the times I've tucked it usually from too much corner speed with too much lean angle.
Just learning to trail brake. Typically I overbrake before tipping in then end up accelerating through the turn. I was finally able to enter the turn with good speed then tucked the front.
Probably would have been ok with neutral throttle but I'm sure I was off the throttle, and probably abruptly, which didn't help.
Now, to get that confidence back......
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Aquaman
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Greg Bob, sorry to hear you went down. I know you can ride cause you got a lot of coaching from my good bud Tuf, but as I always say: "If you ride like a panzy, you will never go down!"
riding hard and fast will get you at one point or another.... Glad you are ok! Bro
riding hard and fast will get you at one point or another.... Glad you are ok! Bro
Red05
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Just learning to trail brake. Typically I overbrake before tipping in then end up accelerating through the turn. I was finally able to enter the turn with good speed then tucked the front.
Probably would have been ok with neutral throttle but I'm sure I was off the throttle, and probably abruptly, which didn't help.
Now, to get that confidence back......
That's how I went down the 1st couple of times I've tucked it (T9 Auto Club Speedway AMA track and Bowl Turn at Streets of Willow). All off throttle. An expert WSMC racer gave me some advice in how to avoid front end tucks, mainly because of Gixx race geometry. He told me you gotta have some sort of load on the front, whether it be from braking forces such as trailing to "maintenance throttle-balancing chassis geometry" immediately after getting off the brakes and just past the apex. Being "off throttle" or "neutral," was a receipe for disaster when cornering with higher speeds because there's no load to the front end, except for cornering forces applied to the tire, thus making the front super light and easy to break traction. I'm still trying to figure that out, but I guess it all applies to "simple" principles of physics.
What do you think Greg, Tuf? I thought that was interesting insight into the anatomy of a front end tuck. Maybe we should check out Keith Code's cornerspeed forums?
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