Ground Zero Mosque Investor Contributed to Terror Group..

[Delgado]

Only reason why I'm replying to this thread is because I was kindly asked to. I initially did not care to respond knowing what the outcome would be.

As stated already, there really is nothing in this link that provides anyone with any information leading up to the conclusion that this guy is intentionally funding terrorist groups. Now, your more then welcome to twist and bend this information to your liking but, it is what it is. Again, this guy is just as guilty as the others who have taken part in this. And to comment on "It's only dividing us further.", well, I think we all know why this is made into a bigger deal than it is and it isn't because of the plans for this building.

 

[J'Man]

So then why isn't Foxnews interviewing Hakeem Olajuwon and Microsoft ?
Why no articles or stories front page about how they are directly tied to terror.
You can't pick and choose from a whole list of donors one person just to fit your argument .
The whole list is vital and relevant .
As long as your willing to convict all contributors and say they all knew than I'm fine .
As long as Olajuwon is put in same cell as thus guy than I'm fine .
As long as whoever it was from Microsoft who gave is imprisoned same as you would do to this man I'm fine .
Would you do that ?


HLF was not on list of terror orgs when these people donated . Although they were under investigation charges and trial did no occur until two yrs later.
After the fact it's easy to see yes the org they gave to supported terror orgs but before HLF came into the public spotlight many were donating and all say same thing .
We thought it was going to a good cause.
How many people who donate to charity actually fully research the group and or where the money is going ?
Not many . Most who give give out of good will and desire to help .
Sure I agree the org that took his money and all elses was funding terror orgs with the donations but I'm still waiting to hear how it is y'all are so sure he knew ?

Dude I realize this all you have left to hold on to for your argument since you keep repeating it over and over and over again. Your defense is that others may have also donated to the same groups so maybe the guy did it innocently. You are correct, we don't know everyone's intentions on whether they knew it went to the group or not.

I agree we don't not know what his intentions were, however my point was that it's just one more thing that points to this project having the wrong motive when you look at the rest of the picture. If you want to start another thread about the intentions of GE, Microsoft and anyone else that's great, but again it has nothing to do with the original topic of my post. If you want to believe this guy didn't know (which you obviously seem to insinuate and also have no proof) and helps the homeless on the weekends then that's wonderful. I just politely disagree.

Now back to in 3, 2, 1, ....

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Dude ? I'm not holding onto anything and I keep repeating myself because you continue to dance around my question .
Your thread , your link .
'contributor linked to terror'
In what way exactly ?
You have yet to answer that .
And it is not just one more thing that shows anything because all he did was donate money .
So until you give us something other than your apparent bias toward him and stop using it as a reason to say the ground zero facility they wanna build is funded by terrorists than I call BS on this thread and the topic .

Should they relocate it to show good faith ? Sure .
Should they open their minds to options sure .
But that's not the topic of the thread.
More than ten yrs after he donated he is still yet to be charged for anything .
There may well be people involved who are terrorists or linked to terror orgs but you and the rest of the folks as well as foxnews have provided nothing else other than insinuating statements.
And J'Man since I have long since deleted the list of folks i gave crosses to I'm going on memory. I believe you have one .
I go to Lazarus' tomb in Cyprus as well as tomb of John the Baptist in Damascus as often as I can .
I go to service on Sunday at least twice a month . Both my kids go to a Christian school the same as I did all my life z
. Do not confuse my name with my faith or think I'm arguing because I support their cause .
I'm only looking for evidence other than him jumping up and down as you say.
You continue to say the name of proposed building is proof of their intent and other things but again have given zero evidence to back up the topic of your thread !
In this country we have something called
'innocent until proven guilty' .
It's not the other way around as you apparently seem to think regarding this man .

 

[J'Man]

Dude ? I'm not holding onto anything and I keep repeating myself because you continue to dance around my question .
Your thread , your link .
'contributor linked to terror'
In what way exactly ? He contributed to a known terrorist org
You have yet to answer that . I've answered you question several times.
And it is not just one more thing that shows anything because all he did was donate money. Again that is your opinion you have no more proof of his intentions than I do. See prior post where I said I don't know what his intentions were, but given the rest of the points I made about the mosque I feel like he probably did know.
So until you give us something other than your apparent bias toward him and stop using it as a reason to say the ground zero facility they wanna build is funded by terrorists than I call BS on this thread and the topic . Again, I've given multiple reasons for my OPINION. I have not stated it's fact, but sometimes in life you have to draw your own conclusion. I conclude the motive behind this mosque is bad for the various reasons I've already posted.

Should they relocate it to show good faith ? Sure .
Should they open their minds to options sure .
But that's not the topic of the thread. Actually it is part of the topic. See my first post in this thread.
More than ten yrs after he donated he is still yet to be charged for anything .
There may well be people involved who are terrorists or linked to terror orgs but you and the rest of the folks as well as foxnews have provided nothing else other than insinuating statements.
And J'Man since I have long since deleted the list of folks i gave crosses to I'm going on memory. I believe you have one . I do and thank you again for sending it.
I go to Lazarus' tomb in Cyprus as well as tomb of John the Baptist in Damascus as often as I can .
I go to service on Sunday at least twice a month . Both my kids go to a Christian school the same as I did all my life z
. Do not confuse my name with my faith or think I'm arguing because I support their cause . I was never trying to insuiate you were not Christian if that's what you thought.
I'm only looking for evidence other than him jumping up and down as you say.
You continue to say the name of proposed building is proof of their intent and other things but again have given zero evidence to back up the topic of your thread ! Did you research the battle of Cordoba yet? I think if you do you will understand more of why I feel the way I do.
In this country we have something called
'innocent until proven guilty' .
It's not the other way around as you apparently seem to think regarding this man .

He's not on trial, but there is another saying we have in this country, it's called guilt by association. Another one is "You are the company you keep". We could argue this all evening, but I'm pretty certain you will still believe his intentions were good and I'll still disagree.

I'll try again to directly answer your questions above in red. I will leave it that we agree to disagree. On a side note...when I was out riding today I did think about a way to bring about world peace. As much money as the US spends on foreign aid we should just buy everyone Busa's then everyone would be so happy from riding that no one would want to fight. Instead everyone would want to go riding. I wonder if I should submit my idea to the White House?

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Org was not a known terror org when he and many others donated .
It was not labeled as such for more than two yrs after he gave so your premise is false . No you haven't answered my question even once .
The man is innocent and believable until proven otherwise .
Believe me when I tell you it will be diff for you to find another person more knowledgeable on Mid East affairs or history.
He did not name facility in question .
A dozen yrs later yes it's been proved that it is but at the time he gave not even the us govt had labeled it as such .
Guilt by what association ? He was a donor to what he says he believed was a charitable foundation .
And many others also gave to same org .
Again if that's the best foxnews can do than it's laughable and scary how folks are willing to believe and convict him of nothing ?
It is sometimes diff for people to listen to reason when the guy they are talkin to has a name of Saiid. That's all I meant .
Are you aware that both this mans parents were killed in the crash of Egyptair flight 990?
A flight which the us govt says was flown directy into tre ocean by it's Muslim first officer as he was screaming into flight recorder 'there is no God but Allah' . The us govt believes he killed over 200 people in a suicide style attack . Do you think this man would contribute knowingly to terror orgs given this fact ?
Yes it seems we will just have to agree to disagree on this .
And yes J'Man I still love you to .

 

[F=MA]

I say we strap the guy to a stake and build a fire around him. If he doesn't burn, he's a terrorist.

Worked for the God-fearing people of Salem.

 

[GMbusa]

I don't care if they build a mosque. Just not at ground zero. Anywhere else is fine.

 

[afterhours]

question:

is it your belief that all that gave money to HLF, knew they were giving money to support terrorism?

 

[HT_USMC]

question:

is it your belief that all that gave money to HLF, knew they were giving money to support terrorism?

It's not so much the donation... it's actually the secret "I'm a terrorist" handshake that proves everything.

(He says in jest)

 

[Schexy1]

I don't care if they build a mosque. Just not at ground zero. Anywhere else is fine.

Where is a good location? Do you think anyone who was affected by the attacks would feel comfortable with it being built close to them?

Also, it is not at Ground Zero, it is close to it.

 

[afterhours]

I had no idea Bill Gates was a Muslim.....