I've seen the beginning of the end I think... Moral Decay of our society....

This is a school event, the school has this authority and exercised it properly when the parent obviously epically FAILED to do it herself.

Stoney McSloth said:
, because i know EVERYONE one of us adults waited till the legal drinking age before we got drunk for the first time.:rofl::rofl::rofl: Hold on i'm still laughing over that on.
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Keep laughing, I never had a drink til after I was 21.
 
Stoney McSloth said:
That's the main issue i'm seeing is Parenting or lack there of. When I was growing up if I disrespected my parents or another adult I got my :moon: spanked and sent to my room. Which I might add didn't have a tv, laptop, multiple gaming systems, full surround sound stereo and that was discipline. Which didn't stop me from doing things that I shouldn't but it did make me stop and think "If i get caught doing X, is it worth getting my :moon: beat." Now a days parents spank that :moon: it's child abuse and your kid can sue you and win. So instead they get "time out" to think about the bad thing they did. Which teaches them there is no consequence for their actions.

But as a parent you should also know the more you tell a kid not to do something, the more they are going to go out and try. So I can see Black Diamond Busa's point but lets say beer instead of porn, because i know EVERYONE one of us adults waited till the legal drinking age before we got drunk for the first time.:rofl::rofl::rofl: Hold on i'm still laughing over that on. So which kid is better? The one that hides the drinking because his parents say "it's the devil" but only till your of age, or the parents that say "I know your going to drink, but i want you to do it responsibly"?

If i'm just rambling on please let me know it's getting kinda late.
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This mentality equates out to compromising your values and facilitating what your kids want to do just because you think they might do them. Let me tell you what, when I got caught drinking in high school my mom and then my day in that order beat my ass! My son has never drank a drop of alcohol, he is a senior in high school so it can be done..

We need to raise our kids to do the right things, not give them alcohol because they might drink, should we just give em what they want because they want it? Should we just give the fat kid some more twinkies just because he can get them somewhere else? Heck no, we are the parents and have been charged with raising them to be the best they can be which means telling them NO! When my son get's out of highschool and he turns 21 and he can legally drink and he chooses to do that then fine, until then he is my responsibility to honor the laws of the country and to more importanly raise him to my values...

To use the excuse that parents should just give in is just a lazy excuse and the easy way out instead of doing the right thing....

cap
 
captain said:
This mentality equates out to compromising your values and facilitating what your kids want to do just because you think they might do them. Let me tell you what, when I got caught drinking in high school my mom and then my day in that order beat my ass! My son has never drank a drop of alcohol, he is a senior in high school so it can be done..

We need to raise our kids to do the right things, not give them alcohol because they might drink, should we just give em what they want because they want it? Should we just give the fat kid some more twinkies just because he can get them somewhere else? Heck no, we are the parents and have been charged with raising them to be the best they can be which means telling them NO! When my son get's out of highschool and he turns 21 and he can legally drink and he chooses to do that then fine, until then he is my responsibility to honor the laws of the country and to more importanly raise him to my values...

To use the excuse that parents should just give in is just a lazy excuse and the easy way out instead of doing the right thing....

cap
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Cap................I Feel your pain but nobody is listening. We grew up in a different society that had Morals and Responsibilty Taught to us. My mom had a very large Belt and nobody thought it was child abuse if she used it. She saved my life :please: "Love you Mom" Parents are now your friend Not someone you Respected and or Feared. :rulez:

Robert
 
That's what i'm trying to say Cap. But I guess it's coming across as I am condoning it. If every parent would actually take the responsibility of raising their children that they brought into this world instead of thinking schools, friends, the tv or the law will raise them properly we wouldn't be in the downward spiral we are in. Case in point the parents that say "movies with violence are responsible for my child's actions" when every tv out there has parental controls on them to block those movies/shows.

It just seems like now a days every time you turn around there is another school shooting or such and the parents say "I didn't know" or "I didn't see that coming" but you find that the kid has been planning it for quite some time and posting all about it on the internet, blogs and social networking sites.

Matter of fact just recently a University of Miami student was arrested by the Secret Service for posting threats against the President just before he was to speak at UM on a fake facebook page. And when they arrested him at his house after tracing the IP address he told them "it was all a joke and done in fun."

Ultimately what I am trying to get at is if Parents were more like you and took an active roll in their child's life and up bringing there wouldn't be AS many problems. But even in the best of households there are bad kids and in the worst of households there are good kids.
 
I have 5 kids. I can tell you right now if one of them came home and told me they were going to prom with a porn star they wouldnt live to see the day. This is coming from a person that is not religious. I just have high moral standards and i am determined not to raise more drags on society. There are enough dead beat parents out there filling that quota.
I will say this though, they are a year apart in age. I am 3 years older then my wife. Should I have been banned from her prom because i was older then her?
 
Its a School event, school rules. Dont like the school rules, leave or act to change them.

My opinion? Clever kid, he came up with something outside the norm to try and have a good time and an event he would have otherwise (perhaps still) have missed.
 
Being English I don't know anything about US school proms.

But is it allowed to take any person outside the school to the prom, like say an actor, or are only students allowed to go, if only students, I think it's right to ban anyone not connected to the school.

Could the guy been influenced by the marine taking a actress to a ball, or something like that, I think there were two occasions like this lately.
 
I'm 48 and my mom still wouldn't let me date a porn star..lol

This thread reminds me of a girl I was dating when I was 16. We're sitting in the living room with my mom watching tv and my girlfriend takes out her cigarette case, holds her birth control pills in one hand while she lights her cigarette.
Mom informs me as we're leaving that I would be breaking up with her....

I am glad I was raised with morals and standards. Thanks MoM!!!
 
captain said:
It all starts at home, his mother should have dealt with it.. Let's see how many of you remember when your mom found your playboy stash, how many moms beat the crap out of you because of that?
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It was my dad that found them, and for some reason...I never got them back~!~ :laugh: j/k

I would have to think a different way if this was my son, and consider his thoughts and reasoning on the issue, and then may have grounded him :laugh:, but...

If I were that young boy and had been turned down by soooo many girls at school this would be my ego trip in their face. I'd be taking the hottest outsider I could find and it would have made me feel so good.

So what if she has a profession that some don't like. This date may have nothing to do with sex or anything immoral. It could be the same as taking a nice looking girl who's a friend playing along to make everyone else jealous.

Haven't you ever seen "Can't buy me love"~?~



From a parents point of view, yes mine would have stopped it immediately and I might do the same.
From the boys point of view...I can see exactly where he may have been coming from.
 
Why is everybody so down on pornstars? They are people too.
Geesh we spend twenty pages arguing over gays and how they should have equal rights and everyone here is acting like she's the devil incarnate? I may not approve of her profession nor would I allow my child to do it but then again there are lots of jobs I would not want my kids doing. Are you so against them and their jobs due to religious feelings that folks should not have sex for fun on film and get paid for it? Whats so wrong with her?
 
captain said:
Are you really saying that just because we didn't have the opportunities is the only reason that our parents didn't deal with this in our day? When I was in high school even if I had a porn star that lived next door my parents would not have let me go with her... We shouldn't allow technology to define us or change our values and morals...
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My parents taught me morals. Those morals included not judging someone based on sexual preference, race, intelligence, or profession.. My parent's don't like many of the decisions I've made in my life, but that doesn't change the fact that they love and SUPPORT me do matter what.

My only problem with this whole situation is the fact that it is news. If this kid would've kept his mouth shut, he'd be going to the prom with a porn star. Period...
 
Just because it's your wildest fantasy doesn't make it a good idea.....???
 
The "kid" is 18, his mom says he is "special needs" so with her jumping to that right away I'll assume he gets ssi. Which means he legally can buy, subscribe and purchase all the porn he wants. His mom may have failed him in his early years but he is who he is now and can do what he wants.

With that said every action/decision comes with its own consequences. The school I believe has the right to say that isn't gonna happen. But that's another "whats the limit" kinda question for me. what will the school do next year about the girl/guy whose sexting photo goes viral, or the girl/guys that everyone (including the teachers) knows sleep around, OR the pregnant girls in school? Kick them out, or ban from events? After all those are also avoidable distractions.

Just my opinion, but also not intending disrespect of course, I was surprised to see you Captain calling out a member saying there opinion was pathetic. Most of this website is opinion like them or not.
 
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