Lightweight guys: Where are you using aluminum?

[SS4Luck]

Okay so i know we have a TI thread going, but lets talk aluminum.

Right now I have aluminum bolts holding my bars into my clip ons, fairing bolts, axle nut, sprocket nuts, debating on swingarm nuts, kickstand bolts, set bolts if I can find them.

Where do we draw the line at weight savings vs potential accident causing?

 

[SS4Luck]

anyone brave enough to run an aluminum front axle on the street

 

[sixpack577]

Okay so i know we have a TI thread going, but lets talk aluminum.

Right now I have aluminum bolts holding my bars into my clip ons, fairing bolts, axle nut, sprocket nuts, debating on swingarm nuts, kickstand bolts, set bolts if I can find them.

Where do we draw the line at weight savings vs potential accident causing?

Swingarm nuts, yes, as they only have side load on them.
Kickstand bolts, yes, as they are not under much stress.
Rearset bolts, for you, yes, for me, no.
Me, I stand on pegs, ride standup wheelies, and sling a bike around...not so good, as maybe they can't handle the stress.
You, street riding and roll racing, they aren't subject to near as much stress.
The aluminum front axle?
I don't know, as you know how quick a road goes from smooth to rough vs a prepped track.
I'de think that one good pothole could bend it, but it not cause a crash(if what could potentially bend it didn't already).

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Swingarm nuts, yes, as they only have side load on them.
Kickstand bolts, yes, as they are not under much stress.
Rearset bolts, for you, yes, for me, no.
Me, I stand on pegs, ride standup wheelies, and sling a bike around...not so good, as maybe they can't handle the stress.
You, street riding and roll racing, they aren't subject to near as much stress.
The aluminum front axle?
I don't know, as you know how quick a road goes from smooth to rough vs a prepped track.
I'de think that one good pothole could bend it, but it not cause a crash(if what could potentially bend it didn't already).

He mentioned axle nut, not axle.

 

[Fernando]

I'm using DME front and rear axle.

 

[sixpack577]

I'm using DME front and rear axle.

Titanium?
How much weight did each axle save?
You're like @ROADTOAD1340
your bikes always have all the top shelf farkles

 

[SS4Luck]

He mentioned axle nut, not axle.

The second post is about an aluminum axle.

Im not brave enough for that one, but I figure someone in here may be lol. I know on a grudge/track only bike you'd be able to get away with it.

 

[SS4Luck]

Swingarm nuts, yes, as they only have side load on them.
Kickstand bolts, yes, as they are not under much stress.
Rearset bolts, for you, yes, for me, no.
Me, I stand on pegs, ride standup wheelies, and sling a bike around...not so good, as maybe they can't handle the stress.
You, street riding and roll racing, they aren't subject to near as much stress.
The aluminum front axle?
I don't know, as you know how quick a road goes from smooth to rough vs a prepped track.
I'de think that one good pothole could bend it, but it not cause a crash(if what could potentially bend it didn't already).

I have ti for the rear sets. I didn't clear my probolt cart once and ordered them on accident so I figured I may as well use them. The front axle thing is for those max max effort guys I just wondered if there was anyone in here ballsy enough to lol. I wont run carbon wheels cuz of the road possibilities either.

 

[SS4Luck]

Titanium?
How much weight did each axle save?
You're like @ROADTOAD1340
your bikes always have all the top shelf farkles

Curious for this too. I have an evil axle, and when you add the stock axle washer and nut, the evil is actually like 5g lighter. I still have stock in front though.

 

[Fernando]

I'm using DME front and rear axle.

Titanium?
How much weight did each axle save?
You're like @ROADTOAD1340
your bikes always have all the top shelf farkles

aluminum my friend.

 

[ROADTOAD1340]

I'm using DME front and rear axle.

I am not familiar with DME axles , just checked their website and could not locate them . Some of the types I am aware of , Unit 5 as I remember make front / rear / swingarm axles with aluminum on thread ends / titanium main shaft axle . Mettec USA make a rear ti axle for GSXR1000 that is the same as Busa 28mm axle . BTitanium make the finest ti axles of all , but at a premium $ . Zeta have stopped making ti axles for road bikes unfortunately , these were imo the very best value . I get my axles custom made as well as BTitanium examples for the Zed14 as example . 1st and 2nd show custom axle and green Btitanium 3rd and 4th pic shows Unit 5 swingarm axle along with a modified quick release ti axles setup Mettec .

 

[Fernando]

I am not familiar with DME axles , just checked their website and could not locate them . Some of the types I am aware of , Unit 5 as I remember make front / rear / swingarm axles with aluminum on thread ends / titanium main shaft axle . Mettec USA make a rear ti axle for GSXR1000 that is the same as Busa 28mm axle . BTitanium make the finest ti axles of all , but at a premium $ . Zeta have stopped making ti axles for road bikes unfortunately , these were imo the very best value . I get my axles custom made as well as BTitanium examples for the Zed14 as example . 1st and 2nd show custom axle and green Btitanium 3rd and 4th pic shows Unit 5 swingarm axle along with a modified quick release ti axles setup Mettec .

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[Fernando]

4130 steel or custom made in aluminum material

 

[greg3852]

I run that axle in the rear with my evil swingarm. Subframe In aluminum? Carbon headlight? Lightweight rotors?

 

[SS4Luck]

I run that axle in the rear with my evil swingarm. Subframe In aluminum? Carbon headlight? Lightweight rotors?

I have an evil axle in my swingarm, the axle itself weighs 100g more, but With all of the hardware they end up weighing the same.
I have an aluminum subframe on order, carbon headlight is already on and a single galfer as well. Ive talked to a few different people about aluminum rotors and its a little too experimental for me to be that guinea pig lol I'm sure ill end up with a Behringer system eventually though.

 

[greg3852]

I have an evil axle in my swingarm, the axle itself weighs 100g more, but With all of the hardware they end up weighing the same.
I have an aluminum subframe on order, carbon headlight is already on and a single galfer as well. Ive talked to a few different people about aluminum rotors and its a little too experimental for me to be that guinea pig lol I'm sure ill end up with a Behringer system eventually though.

Slow down...I gotta keep up and thats a lot to buy....

 

[sixpack577]

I have an evil axle in my swingarm, the axle itself weighs 100g more, but With all of the hardware they end up weighing the same.
I have an aluminum subframe on order, carbon headlight is already on and a single galfer as well. Ive talked to a few different people about aluminum rotors and its a little too experimental for me to be that guinea pig lol I'm sure ill end up with a Behringer system eventually though.

I think you have shown the Gen3's potential more than anyone without opening the engine or boost.
I know you said you're going turbo; but what are the odds of you trying Gen2 cam(s) first?
I know the Gen3 throttle bodies are smaller too(3mm??), so still a restriction there.
I read several things on potential Gen3 cam swaps months ago, but have yet to hear anymore about it.
I think that's what alot of us want to know too; can a flash, stacks, pipe, And cams bring Gen2 top-end to the Gen3, Without a big loss elsewhere in the rpms?
And since you're one of our few resident high speed R&D Gen3 test guys here, well...
lol

 

[michael parris heuberger]

anyone brave enough to run an aluminum front axle on the street


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Hi. I run one on the street/ LSR bike. But I run a steel rear axle not even a Ti. DME said the Ti tear do not work OK. I also run a Ti chain, Ti clutch pusher rod. I run some aluminum bolts in the motor cases. Every bolt on the bike has been look into and has been replaced with lighter or stronger. Like the bolts in the intercooled intake 20 of them and the bolts that hold it to the frame turbo bike are Ti stayed 2 ozs at the cost of $120.00.

 

[michael parris heuberger]

I have an evil axle in my swingarm, the axle itself weighs 100g more, but With all of the hardware they end up weighing the same.
I have an aluminum subframe on order, carbon headlight is already on and a single galfer as well. Ive talked to a few different people about aluminum rotors and its a little too experimental for me to be that guinea pig lol I'm sure ill end up with a Behringer system eventually though.

Hi. Do not run aluminum rotors on the street. If they would work on the street I would have Carbon Carbon rotors.

 

[SS4Luck]

Hi. Do not run aluminum rotors on the street. If they would work on the street I would have Carbon Carbon rotors.

I love reading your posts. I throw money/parts at my bike but your posts always make so much more sense and open avenues I haven’t thought of/wouldn’t normally think of.