My horrible salesman experience
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Scali bettered three-time champion Angelle Savioe in round-two with another impressive 7.11 at 188 mph to Savoie’s 7.28 at 185 mph.
I think she's about your size or smaller, seems to handle the big bike just fine.
I think she's about your size or smaller, seems to handle the big bike just fine.
Only test ride I have ever gotten was on a used cruiser one day. Shocked the hell out of me that the guy actually let me do it, but we had talked and knew I had a 'Busa and a Katana at the time. Don't know if that helped or not.
There are some bad salespeople out there. Just don't let that stop or deter you from getting what you want. As others have said, there are many dealerships out there that would be willing to take care of 'ya.
There are some bad salespeople out there. Just don't let that stop or deter you from getting what you want. As others have said, there are many dealerships out there that would be willing to take care of 'ya.
Rioteer,
Sorry to hear bout your ordeal at that dealership. I say you head somewhere else. But just remember the Busa is for experienced riders only. Malcolm Smith Motorsports (place I got mine) asked me some questions. I'm big for my stature 6ft; 230 lbs. I also showed them a pic of me and my old Gixxer 750 and that I have my M1 endorsement and that I took the MSF course too. I think that put everyone at ease so buying was a snap. Point is; expect most dealers to confront you in regards to experience. Size doesn't matter as much as rider skill, experience and strength (Busa is a pretty heavy bike for a sportbike classification. Make sure you've got strong legs to support it from a dead stop or to move it around in tight corners, such as a parking stall or parallel parking situations, with your legs alone). But as someone else just said, talk to the manager if you're getting harrassed.
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Sorry to hear bout your ordeal at that dealership. I say you head somewhere else. But just remember the Busa is for experienced riders only. Malcolm Smith Motorsports (place I got mine) asked me some questions. I'm big for my stature 6ft; 230 lbs. I also showed them a pic of me and my old Gixxer 750 and that I have my M1 endorsement and that I took the MSF course too. I think that put everyone at ease so buying was a snap. Point is; expect most dealers to confront you in regards to experience. Size doesn't matter as much as rider skill, experience and strength (Busa is a pretty heavy bike for a sportbike classification. Make sure you've got strong legs to support it from a dead stop or to move it around in tight corners, such as a parking stall or parallel parking situations, with your legs alone). But as someone else just said, talk to the manager if you're getting harrassed.
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Rioteer: Where are you at in Wisconsin?
If you're in the Southestern area, then look into Ace Powersports in Kenosha. I've always been treated well when I go there, and haven't had anyone be the least bit disrepectful. If you want, give them a call, and ask for Tom Stark.
If you need a referral name, just PM me.
If you're in the Southestern area, then look into Ace Powersports in Kenosha. I've always been treated well when I go there, and haven't had anyone be the least bit disrepectful. If you want, give them a call, and ask for Tom Stark.
If you need a referral name, just PM me.
Not sure where you're at in Wisconsin, but I got my '04 from Suzuki of Northern Illinois, which is real close to the Beloit area, for $10,600 otd. Not one question, and a real good group of guys to deal with. Let me know and I can give you a good name.
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when i bought the busa I was 5'7" and 165 lbsThis may be long winded, but here goes. As some of you know I am looking for a new bike. I was contemplating a TL1000R and a Hayabusa. After tons of helpful advice from the board, I went to go look at a Busa today. Boy, did I get pissed off.
So i walk into the dealership and just start looking around. Naturall y, like flies on sh*t, the salesmen swarming me asking if I need help. I tell them i'm looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa, blah, blah, blah. First thing out of this a-holes mouth is, "whoa son, that's too much bike for you to handle. You gotta be a lot bigger to control a bike like that." (I'm 5'11" weighing in at about 160) "Maybe you should take a look at these over here *points to some used 600's sitting in the corner*" In spite of me wanting to hit this guy in the face, I politely inform him that i'm used to big displacement bikes, and that as long as you know how to handle it physical stature isn't of huge importance. So, I ignore his previous comments and inquire about test riding it (I should have said f**k you and left a lot earler). The guy laughs and says: "There's no way you could handle that bike. period."
I was stunned, never before had I been treated like that. Apalling is all I can say. Maybe that's a sign from above telling me to buy used
I just can't believe the audacity of that guy. Sorry for the rant.
size has notting to do IMHO
now I'm 6'2"
I'd be interested to hear how much experience the salesman had riding 'Busas - or anything else for that matter.
He was definitely being disrespectful if he hadn't asked you about your riding experience.
I don't know what's considered the minimum "right age" for owning a Hayabusa (there's plenty of speculation elsewhere on this board) but I do know that it depends on the rider's mindset as to how they use or abuse any bike.
I was 17 when I passed my test on a Yamaha 250 in England. The following week I picked up an 1100 (which was about 100lbs heavier than the Busa incidentally.) You'd better believe that I rode that thing Very Carefully for quite a while before I started experimenting with lean angles and "enthusiastic" throttle application. That bike felt huge in comparison to the 250 and the power was mindblowing.
Personally, I read everything I could find about riding techniques etc. I made sure I had all the right gear (already owned a full set of leathers when I had the 250) and I rode defensively and wasn't out to impress anyone.
If you're buying a bike because you enjoy riding then the Busa will definitely make you happy. The seat height's quite low so you'll get your feet on the ground. Take your time to learn its characteristics and limits - don't be one of those people who gets a brand new bike and immediately starts bolting a turbo on it. The Busa has a wonderful spread of progressive power in standard trim that makes it a great cruiser in the lower rev range, and a real Beast if you open it up.
Just remember you're in charge of the throttle.
I've been to dealerships who had new Busa's or ZX-12's, and you can tell by the dirt on the tires that someone has ridden it on the street. If they think you have the mean's (mature or cash falling out your pockets) to purchase a bike, they will prep it for you and let you test ride it.
If you are more specific in what your qualifications are, rather then being general about having ridden large displacement bikes, maybe the salesman's attitude would have changed. Riding a 1600cc Harley or taking your uncle's Goldwing around the block is not a glowing endorsesment to take a Busa for a test ride.
Being young looking and not laying out your experience is not going to get you a test ride. Just a fact of life.
If you are more specific in what your qualifications are, rather then being general about having ridden large displacement bikes, maybe the salesman's attitude would have changed. Riding a 1600cc Harley or taking your uncle's Goldwing around the block is not a glowing endorsesment to take a Busa for a test ride.
Being young looking and not laying out your experience is not going to get you a test ride. Just a fact of life.
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I'll usually be polite and let the salesguy ask a probing question or two. The usual, "So what are you riding now?" thing.
Than, I say, "At this point, I'm not ready for a saleman. If I have any question's I'll come get you. Let me know if that's a problem, if so, you're probably gonna miss out on an easy commission 2 or 3 weeks from now."
That usually does the trick for me.
Than, I say, "At this point, I'm not ready for a saleman. If I have any question's I'll come get you. Let me know if that's a problem, if so, you're probably gonna miss out on an easy commission 2 or 3 weeks from now."
That usually does the trick for me.
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I'll usually be polite and let the salesguy ask a probing question or two. The usual, "So what are you riding now?" thing.
Than, I say, "At this point, I'm not ready for a saleman. If I have any question's I'll come get you. Let me know if that's a problem, if so, you're probably gonna miss out on an easy commission 2 or 3 weeks from now."
That usually does the trick for me.
Than, I say, "At this point, I'm not ready for a saleman. If I have any question's I'll come get you. Let me know if that's a problem, if so, you're probably gonna miss out on an easy commission 2 or 3 weeks from now."
That usually does the trick for me.
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I work for BMW of Santa Barbara in sales, I give people $132,000 BMW Z8 test drives, but when I got my Busa I was not given a test ride(My trade in was a YZF 1000) still .I understand why .Its the liability of the dealership if something happens to the customer.But I will not pre judge any customers. He should be concerned but should NOT open his BIG MOUTH like that saying its too much bike for some body..Go to a different Dealer and Buy a HAYABUSA
The Big Red One
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There's def 2 sides to every story...and its the same with the test ride thing. I can test ride Harleys at my local dealership till my d**k falls off.....but the sportbike dealerships won't let you test drive any new big machines.I work for BMW of Santa Barbara in sales, I give people $132,000 BMW Z8 test drives, but when I got my Busa I was not given a test ride(My trade in was a YZF 1000) still .I understand why .Its the liability of the dealership if something happens to the customer.But I will not pre judge any customers. He should be concerned but should NOT open his BIG MOUTH like that saying its too much bike for some body..Go to a different Dealer and Buy a HAYABUSA
One the one hand I think that if Harley lets me test ride a $30,000 bike...then whats the prob with a sportbike dealership letting me try a $11,000 machine?!?
On the other hand the $30,000 Harley won't send you into warp drive at the flick of a wrist and transport you into/up on/over/under that car/bus/curb/truck/building before you have any clue what just happened
I know that when or if I sell my Busa there will be no test rides
Smoke D
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Times have changed. I remember in beginning of 1984 I didn't know how to ride a bike and went to a dealer that was really helpful. I went and studied to the test for my Motorcycle permit, and went back to the dealer, where he taught me how to ride a 250 in the parking lot. I then bought my first bike, a 1984 Honda V30 Magna from him. Three years later I didn't any problem riding any sport bike around and bought a 1987 VFR.
When I became interested in a BUSA, I went to three different dealerships and each one gave me a hard time about riding before I bought. I got to ride the BUSA after I bought it and remember thinking this is the 1st vehicle I have EVER purchased without testing it out first.
To be honest, I knew I wanted it and no test ride was no big deal. Probably would be different if it was used though.
When I became interested in a BUSA, I went to three different dealerships and each one gave me a hard time about riding before I bought. I got to ride the BUSA after I bought it and remember thinking this is the 1st vehicle I have EVER purchased without testing it out first.
To be honest, I knew I wanted it and no test ride was no big deal. Probably would be different if it was used though.
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