michael parris heuberger
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Hi. Thank you and I thank every one.
Needing to vent - Lockdown again (apologies to all)
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michael parris heuberger
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Hi. I was not vaxed until July 2021.In my job I had about 20 people all over 55 got sick 3 of them I know quite well no one died even all the ones that are old and not in good health. I have in my job been with about 4000 people now. I got vaxed because of all the people I see and I do not want to get anyone sick. Do I think I needed it NO I did it for others.
Well I got my first jab so far ( waiting on 2nd ) , I did it for me Ma ( waiting too on 2nd dose ) , because I am the one out and about in public . Regardless of personally not knowing anyone that has had covid , and regardless of not ever trusting any AU government or world government for that matter , most especially any powerful communist regime .... I will do everything I can to keep the old dear safe , I owe her that at the very least . We only got each other family wise , I got no help and like it that way , no relatives in my state . I only got one remaining brother who is 3000km + away and our relationship has deteriorated over the years to minimal contact . I do not really give a chit what others think , I make whatever decisions that need to be done for my situation , and live as best I can with good will to others in general .
michael parris heuberger
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Hi. I only have 1 daughter left she is now 45 and 1i grand daughter and 1 grandson who is 26 from my oldest daughter who was murdered. Today I went to a Honda dealer and she bought her 1st bike a Rebel 300, As she just got her license last week.
Zerks
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The research you did falls short of the truth... the vaccine is only good for about 6 months anyway. A poor diet weakens an immune system because essential nutrients are not available to strengthen the immune system. For the weakened from a poor diet the jab is a stop gap measure... meanwhile... JB and the Ho have been and are arranging transportation of illegal aliens all over the country that have a percentage of covid infections. Does that make sense to you?
TallTom
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So using your population of poor diet folks in your hypothesis, how would you propose that same segment fares not getting the vaccine?
And continuing with your proposed hypothesis, wouldn't 6 months be better than no months?
michael parris heuberger
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Hi Kiwi Rider. Your words fi me to a T.
Mythos
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I simply don't wish to receive any injection I feel could be more dangerous than the thing it's supposed to protect me from. There have been incidents throughout history up to very recent years where vaccines caused problems and some of them pretty severe. Not taking the vaccine and accepting the higher risk of contracting the virus has been the lesser of two evils for me. The virus doesn't even seem to be much of a threat. I believe it is to some people but I don't choose to risk my health in order to protect theirs. Apparently half of the US population feels the same way at this point in time.
I think we're getting close to the point where many people will need to have the vaccine in order to work and I will be one of them. At that point, I suppose I would choose the lesser of two evils again. Not working would be more risky than having the vaccine.
And you claim to be an educator…
I can’t see any legitimate reason for not getting vaxed. The, ‘it’s just not necessary’ position doesn’t fly. The ‘it hasn’t been tested enough‘ position doesn’t either. Hundreds of thousands, millions? worldwide have been vaxed without adverse reactions, the majority of the fully vetted and accomplished medical and scientific experts around the world are vax advocates and it’s a FACT that the vax can save lives so why in the hell not get vaxed?
mark3evo
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we the UK are now learning to live with it, this country cannot afford more lockdowns - mentally and financially
it will take 30 years for the young to pay the debt off.
i don't believe there will be another UK Lockdown, we have 90 dying a day now with a resurgence of delta variant but it is stabilising and we have practically all the vulnerable vaccinated.
1,550 die every day in the UK - time to carry on
this C19 aint going away, Israel now having to give boosters as Pfizer original is not as protective.
humans are meant to socialise not be locked up - i empathise with your position @ottafish
it will take 30 years for the young to pay the debt off.
i don't believe there will be another UK Lockdown, we have 90 dying a day now with a resurgence of delta variant but it is stabilising and we have practically all the vulnerable vaccinated.
1,550 die every day in the UK - time to carry on
this C19 aint going away, Israel now having to give boosters as Pfizer original is not as protective.
humans are meant to socialise not be locked up - i empathise with your position @ottafish
There are over 60 variants of the regular flu and each year the WHO take a guess at which variant will be predominate in that particular year...and the flu vaccine is based on 4 variants-this is why some flu seasons are worse than others as they may have not got it right that year...
Roll around to the flu replacement-Covid 19...this will be an ongoing virus which will require annual vaccinations due to all the different variants....it's here to stay......
The two most significant posts in this thread for me, was the first from the original poster and Cap’s post. Very interesting perspectives. I read both a few times.
The first post from Australia, leans heavily towards a culture in which I grew up as a kid. There were rules at home, at school, in society and if those rules were broken, the punishment was pretty harsh. I can remember coming home from junior high school with three cane marks across my butt, given by a teacher, because I miss behaved in class. Disrespecting a senior was unheard of and would have consequences. The same goes for disrespecting rules or authority, even if I did not agree with them. Then there was military service, where I learnt what discipline and respect for authority really meant. From all of that, I was molded into a person who is not entitled, who puts his own needs last and that of the greater society first. I respect the President for the position of office he holds, irrespective of the person he may be. I wear a mask not because I want to, I wear it to try and be courteous and polite and for the benefit of others. I try not to refer to people by their color, as labeling a person in that manner to me is disrespecting a fellow human being.
Reading Cap’s post I can really identify with his thoughts of how society here in general has transformed. All I have to do is look at my own son. Unlike me, he grew up in the USA. He is a good guy, graduated college, has a successful career, a good person. But he grew up in a totally different system, where freedom of speech, expression, conduct within legal boundaries is very important. Life is easy, no need to stress about paying the bills. Lockdowns and wearing a mask impedes his freedom, something he will not necessarily respect. His political views are pretty much American and his personal opinions will take precedence over authority.
Covid is here, I had it, I have been vaccinated and I have family members who have passed away from it. My wife is a nurse, she works with Covid patients and she is experiencing a pretty high level of rising infections right now.
In NC, right now a person gets a $100 reward for getting vaccinated and $25 if you take someone to get vaccinated. Until the country gets to a 90% vaccination rate, really the only solution is protecting others and oneself from infection, even after vaccination.
Personally, what gets me the most is the world’s civility towards China where this started, followed by their own arrogance against any notion of holding them responsible.
The first post from Australia, leans heavily towards a culture in which I grew up as a kid. There were rules at home, at school, in society and if those rules were broken, the punishment was pretty harsh. I can remember coming home from junior high school with three cane marks across my butt, given by a teacher, because I miss behaved in class. Disrespecting a senior was unheard of and would have consequences. The same goes for disrespecting rules or authority, even if I did not agree with them. Then there was military service, where I learnt what discipline and respect for authority really meant. From all of that, I was molded into a person who is not entitled, who puts his own needs last and that of the greater society first. I respect the President for the position of office he holds, irrespective of the person he may be. I wear a mask not because I want to, I wear it to try and be courteous and polite and for the benefit of others. I try not to refer to people by their color, as labeling a person in that manner to me is disrespecting a fellow human being.
Reading Cap’s post I can really identify with his thoughts of how society here in general has transformed. All I have to do is look at my own son. Unlike me, he grew up in the USA. He is a good guy, graduated college, has a successful career, a good person. But he grew up in a totally different system, where freedom of speech, expression, conduct within legal boundaries is very important. Life is easy, no need to stress about paying the bills. Lockdowns and wearing a mask impedes his freedom, something he will not necessarily respect. His political views are pretty much American and his personal opinions will take precedence over authority.
Covid is here, I had it, I have been vaccinated and I have family members who have passed away from it. My wife is a nurse, she works with Covid patients and she is experiencing a pretty high level of rising infections right now.
In NC, right now a person gets a $100 reward for getting vaccinated and $25 if you take someone to get vaccinated. Until the country gets to a 90% vaccination rate, really the only solution is protecting others and oneself from infection, even after vaccination.
Personally, what gets me the most is the world’s civility towards China where this started, followed by their own arrogance against any notion of holding them responsible.
michael parris heuberger
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Hi When they get he vaccines approved by the FDA, the America can get back to doing what we do BEST. Suing the companies who made the vaccines.
Dopey
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No need to apologize Carl family is for venting too. I really hope things get better for you and you can get out and enjoy that awesome busa you've put together and can't wait to see what you've got planned from digging into the electric schematics of the gen 3.
hayabuser
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Yet another potential hoax to keep the people in perpetual servitude to the elites... if climate change was the dire emergency that the elites say it is, why are they all buying waterfront property that is supposed to be underwater in a few years?
Climate activists invest in property on beaches they say are disappearing - Washington Examiner
From Bill and Melinda Gates to climate envoy John Kerry, climate activists have sounded the alarm about how melting ice will soon raise the ocean to levels that swallow the world’s beaches.But some of the country's most vocal climate change activists have invested heavily in luxury oceanfront...
www.washingtonexaminer.com
"Do as I say, not as I do".....
You can't trust anyone anymore.
Mythos
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We all make choices in life but it's impossible to think everything through objectively. In most of our daily activities, routines work extremely well. The key is knowing what is important enough to break the routine for. It could save you your life in certain situations as I'm sure you know.
I've already explained my logic twice. Here's a little backup.
Historical Safety Concerns | Vaccine Safety | CDC
Read more about past vaccine safety concerns, how they have been resolved, and what we have learned.
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All vaccines are a potential risk. Covid is a potential risk. Thus far, we all had the opportunity to choose which risk to take and I chose Covid. I'm glad to see many people have taken the vaccine without any ill effects. I feel a lot safer taking it myself now as it appears that could soon be the best choice for me. I will respect the choice of those that refuse to take it though.
In contrast the teachers here were almost ready to protest if they weren't moved up on the list to get vaccinated....my neighbors are both teachers and they said there was an unanimous vote to do so if the government didn't get going on getting them vaccinated...We all make choices in life but it's impossible to think everything through objectively. In most of our daily activities, routines work extremely well. The key is knowing what is important enough to break the routine for. It could save you your life in certain situations as I'm sure you know.
I've already explained my logic twice. Here's a little backup.
Historical Safety Concerns | Vaccine Safety | CDC
Read more about past vaccine safety concerns, how they have been resolved, and what we have learned.
All vaccines are a potential risk. Covid is a potential risk. Thus far, we all had the opportunity to choose which risk to take and I chose Covid. I'm glad to see many people have taken the vaccine without any ill effects. I feel a lot safer taking it myself now as it appears that could soon be the best choice for me. I will respect the choice of those that refuse to take it though.
