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shooter69

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Hey guys, I'm new to the forum, but I like it here already! I'm in a dilemma, here. I dearly want a crotch rocket, but my pops isn't wanting it to happen. He has a V Star 1100, and I, myself, have a V Star 650. I have been riding for about a year now with the 650 and the 1100. But now, I'd like a crotch rocket.

My problem is getting the parents to let me get one. Do you guys have any advice as to how to convince my dad it's ok for me to get a crotch rocket? I'm obviously new to sport bikes, so as a learning bike, I planned on getting something like a used Honda CBR600F4i or something of the face. Probably something smaller than that. But he has it in his mind that all I'm going to do is speed, and be wreckless with it. Can you guys give me something to say to him that could possibly sway his standpoint?

Thanks,
-Sam
 
Dad, I'm 38 and I'm going to get my sportsbike
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You can be reckless and speed on anything. It is very possible he is intimidated by sport bikes and/or doesn't like what he sees from people riding them. I think you are on the right track in trying to sell him on a smaller bike to start. See if you can get him to open up and find out what other objections he has besides the speeding concern. Again, it doesn't take a sport bike to speed. It just makes it easier.
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Good luck on the sell job!
 
Motorcycles don't kill people, Marines kill people!
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So basically tell him that if he is worried about speed, tell him that I can speed on the bike I have now, but he trusts me enough that I don't, (which I very, very rarely do) and that he can trust me on a sport bike. I'll also mention that with a smaller bike, I'm not going to be reaching those high speeds (low to the 'busa owners) of 130 miles an hour.--am I correct on this statement? Correct me if I'm wrong, there.

What if he mentions the stability of a crotch rocket? What should I say about the stability?
 
First of all if your trying to convice parents I would think that "crotchrocket"
would not be the best word to use. I would use somthing different. And the stability on a streetbike would be just as good if not better than your V star. Then tell pops It's just way cooler so I gotta have it!! That'll do the trick
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I'd explain to him that although you still like the V star you currently have but that you also are interested in both bikes. Chances are you guys ride together on the same type of bikes. Just say you'd like to try out a smaller 600cc sportbike but will still cruise with him whether it be on it or your old V star. I'd point out that the streetbike (notice I didn't say crotch-rocket here) can be more agile and respond better in emergencies than the V-star may be able to. I'd also say something to the effect of "I may get on it and decide I like the V-star better but I won't know unless I try." And "If I was interested in it mainly for speed I'd be asking to get a 1000cc (or higher) bike."  
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 Good luck.
 
Some of it may be that he is truly worried about the speed aspect of it but part of it may also be that he's afraid that you won't ride with him anymore or lose all interest in the bikes both of you currently ride together. So I'd reinforce that (and be sure to still ride with him if you actually do get one.)

If it works...
Assuming you talk him into it and go riding together with your new speed machine I would ride it as much as possible still like a cruiser right along there with Dad. If suddenly your cool cruise turns into a somewhat speed contest (could be something as simple as you leaving a light a little faster getting up to your cruising speed) will quickly dissolve your intent for the bike in his eyes and make him feel like an outsider.

Then when you're not cruising with him have your fun at your own pace.
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Hey, thank you a bunch, man. And now that you say it, I can see why he would think that just because I have sportbike, I would never cruise with him. And I know that would kill my dad, seeing on how he's the one that got me riding on a motorcycle at all.
 
I bought my Busa when I was 33, Dad rides a Harley, I got some of the same and it's just normal worry that ANY parent would display...he's concerned about you, that's all...

Only way out of it is to prove over time that 1) you can ride it and that you're doing your best to stay safe and 2) include him in everything you can...go for rides, ask him his opinion on things for your new ride, etc...keep him in the loop and he'll come around...

It's just a bike...2 wheels are 2 wheels...we could hurt ourselves on any of 'em...

Have fun and best of luck with everything! Show Dad this site! My Dad's been here and lurked, ridden with the Busa guys before too...he's gained a healthy respect for everyone here
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Long story short.  It is not the bike that will get you in trouble.  It is your common sense and right hand.  Doesn't really matter what you're are riding.


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If you haven't taken the MSF course (or the equivalent) do that with your Dad. While you're there, ask the instructors their input on the subject. They will offer advice and since they have seen you ride, they will be honest about their opinions. If you are of legal age and licensed, no one can stop you from doing what you want to do but it's a lot more fun for everyone when there is a "meeting of the minds" or other compromise....
 
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this bike takes alot of self control it took me 40 years and if i was in my 20,s iwouldnt have as much control, besides insurance for a younster will be pricey

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Tell your Dad walking, 1 wheel, 2, 3, 4 up to 18 wheelers, have safety courses and you have to bide by the rules because if you don't or someone else doesn't then all of these have one thing in common:

ask smiley below, or let him tell you silently.


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When i first started riding at 16 all i could convince my dad of was a SV650S 128mph top speed so you have to start somewhere GOOD LUCK.
 
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