Proof of Election Fraud

[Zerks]

You need to focus more on motorcycling and less on all this garbage...you will have ulcers if you keep on worrying about something you have zero power to understand not to mention stop.

@TallTom already summed it up nicely-re-read his post on the subject.

You missed the truth of the hypocrisy we are now witnessing... you missed the words of JFK in the truest sense of what they mean... face it... you have missed the boat. The tide is rising and the WEF types and those that align with them have our number. We are vulnerable as a country and a civilization without truth and justice... Notice we have a 2 tier justice system in our country... I have pointed it out many times... but... when the truth is staring you in the face you deflect to me being some kind of ignorant type that doesn't understand anything.

Well, I choose to believe what is true just like you do.... Like you, I have lived in places that were corrupt though not a harrowing as the places you have lived. So what? Injustice is still injustice whether or not a war has been declared... or not.

All Tom did was confirm that he is a life long subscriber to the MSM / political narrative when it comes to the last election... his choice... we can believe the lies or not. The liars have been caught many times already from Biden on down... but... that doesn't matter...

TDS has no cure unless you have the Donkey Pox virus...
Donkey Pox has been re infecting the nation for decades. lol !

The "Left" went off the rails even before Trump won the 2016 election... so... what did they do? They attacked... and they are still attacking... that dog and pony show on TV last night was just the latest example of how far these shills for the WEF crowd are willing to go because they will also benefit by being re elected as a reward for the classless behavior they embody. JFK called them out decades ago... and he paid the ultimate price for it... JFK even commented to a few people close to him before that life ending event that he wouldn't be surprised if they did try to take him out.

Well... as Obama said... change is coming to America... how do you like the changes so far?
We have great leadership in our country and MSM don't we? Don't you love it when Hollywood types like Snoop Dog have a fake assassination photo op? Don't you like it when Johnny Depp, Alec Baldwin, Kathy Griffin and others speak of or demonstrate bloody images of a sitting president? Do any of the left wing political types call those people out? No... in fact they encourage it by not saying anything. In other words, they condone it.

So... go ahead and tell me the election wasn't stolen by people that support all the reckless mayhem we have all seen for going on 7 years. Its who they are... its what they do... the ends justifies the means by which it is done.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Deflect, denie and attack. Sounds just like trump.

 

[Zerks]

Deflect, denie and attack. Sounds just like trump.

So... Obama didn't say.... "Change is Coming" to America. ?

Go ahead and bold all the deflections, denials, and attacks I mentioned and let's go through them one at a time instead of just broad brushing it all with a single line that identifies nothing specific.

Its not an attack when the historical records show what happened.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

 

[michael parris heuberger]

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H. America was founded on FREEDOM when you fundamentally change it what do you get? Well you do not get more freedom do you? Yes I do know that Trump said some stupid things. I am so glad the Biden makes so much sense when he speaks. I have never hurd him make a mistake have you? No one answered my question Should we take out all the deadly things that are in our school? Yes or No.

 

[TallTom]

You need to focus more on motorcycling and less on all this garbage...you will have ulcers if you keep on worrying about something you have zero power to understand not to mention stop.

@TallTom already summed it up nicely-re-read his post on the subject.

I love when the youth use the internet to put us old geezers in our place. I've watched our government do things they will never read about. Before there was an internet.

The internet, while hugely beneficial in many ways, has also raised a lot of raw sewage into the waters of information they swim in.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

H. America was founded on FREEDOM when you fundamentally change it what do you get? Well you do not get more freedom do you? Yes I do know that Trump said some stupid things. I am so glad the Biden makes so much sense when he speaks. I have never hurd him make a mistake have you? No one answered my question Should we take out all the deadly things that are in our school? Yes or No.

trump didn’t just say stupid things, he tried to “fundamentally change” the democratic process by ignoring his VP, his Attorney General, his entire White House staff, his family (and the law) in addition to instructing his own VP not to certify the vote which pence had no legal authority to do. Every state had already certified their vote count and then, according to the rules under the constitution, it became Congress and the VPs job to certify the votes. Neither did trump by (any) interpretation of the constitution, have this power. He (did) have the right to object to the vote count thru the federal court system. He failed, after 60+ attempts. His personal attorney was sanctioned and disbarred for spurious (baseless) lawsuits. trump is a traitorous coward interested only in his own well being. America fired him.

 

[michael parris heuberger]

trump didn’t just say stupid things, he tried to “fundamentally change” the democratic process by ignoring his VP, his Attorney General, his entire White House staff, his family (and the law) in addition to instructing his own VP not to certify the vote which pence had no legal authority to do. Every state had already certified their vote count and then, according to the rules under the constitution, it became Congress and the VPs job to certify the votes. Neither did trump by (any) interpretation of the constitution, have this power. He (did) have the right to object to the vote count thru the federal court system. He failed, after 60+ attempts. His personal attorney was sanctioned and disbarred for spurious (baseless) lawsuits. trump is a traitorous coward interested only in his own well being. America fired him.

Hi. Well I am happy that the election was fair. If Trump did wrong he should pay the price for it. I think that the country is going in a much better direction now that Biben is in charge.

 

[ZeePopo]

"Fired" lol. That made my day

 

[ZeePopo]

Hi. Well I am happy that the election was fair. If Trump did wrong he should pay the price for it. I think that the country is going in a much better direction now that Biben is in charge.

I think America does best when everyone gets involved and makes sure it's all balanced out. Everyone hold hands and learn to play nice.

 

[TallTom]

Hi. Well I am happy that the election was fair. If Trump did wrong he should pay the price for it. I think that the country is going in a much better direction now that Biben is in charge.

Yeah that whole build back better slogan. How about "Please put it back to how you got it" instead.

 

[michael parris heuberger]

Yeah that whole build back better slogan. How about "Please put it back to how you got it" instead.

Hi. @Tall Tom. Hi. I am not sure what side you support. Just look what Biden is doing to protect the Northern boarder. Just how could he be doing anything better?. Now just look at what a great job Harris is doing at the southern boarder now that Biden put her in charge. Now for inflation Biden has a great plan to fight it. He said we will make cement. What a great idea who else could have thought up that plan. The economy is doing the best ever. We are being told that it is not good by the Republicans which we know that is a lie. Now that is why we need the ministry of truth so Republicans can not tell us lies. As the dumocats only tell the truth.

 

[Zerks]

The current economic condition is a product of past practices and policy. We had artificially low interest rates for 10 years and counting and that drove the biggest asset bubble ( housing ) to all time highs that translates in housing inflation. Like it or not the housing sector of national GDP is the biggest indicator of where the economy is headed. The FED has been buying mortgages and recently stopped... that is where a big part of the debt has been slowly accumulating... not at the biggest 5 or more banks. The FED has close to 3 trillion dollars in mortgages ( securities ) on its books right now and a recession / depression will hit them hard. Little of what we see that is detrimental to the economy is due to what has happened in the Biden era other than the covid scam.

The covid scam issue is an entirely different subject and I won't make my case here right now.

As housing goes so goes the nation... when lending sources dry up, when interest rates climb, when companies start cutting back on the work force like we are starting to see in Big Tech it is only a matter of time before the party ends that is home appreciation in price.

Had the banks been allowed to fail in 2008 and the mostly middle class tax payers didn't get saddled with bailing out the mortgage industry then we wouldn't be here with this housing bubble perched on the edge. If interest rates had been frozen at 5% in 2008 for at least 3 years... and the banks been parted out like what we saw with Indy Mac Bank and Countrywide when housing went belly up... then what we have now would have likely not have happened. Also keep in mind that betting on people not paying their mortgages is a casino game for Wall Street with derivatives and credit default stops... again... that is an entirely different subject that impacted the last crash... billions are still owed to some of those bettors... Bears Stearn ring a bell? They were holding some of the bets! lol ! Who's next? Or better yet, who is too big to fail debt sector at tax payer expense... again?

 

[Zerks]

I love when the youth use the internet to put us old geezers in our place. I've watched our government do things they will never read about. Before there was an internet.

The internet, while hugely beneficial in many ways, has also raised a lot of raw sewage into the waters of information they swim in.

What the internet has done is expose the government and a-lot the scum that is milking it. What was the problem with Snowden and Assange? Was it they exposed too much chicanery in government?

How is the Swamp ever going to be drained if you can't see it for what it is? My question for years now is... How much fraud and corruption does it take to ruin this country and crash it?

From having 3 major news organizations in the 50s and 60s that was pretty simple to keep the MSM narrative pretty straight and orderly... to the 24 / 7 hour news cycle with hundreds of sources with cameras and microphones everywhere... controlling the narrative has become difficult to impossible. That Epstien hit job was kept under wraps pretty good... haven't heard a leak yet from any source. What would have happened if Epstein was allowed to testify and exposed political royalty?

About Snowden... he said he will come back and stand trial if the laws are followed in his court case. The Feds have made it clear that the rules will not be followed in his case. What does that mean? It means if you catch the FEDS grossly breaking the law and expose them then you will not get a fair trial.

 

[Bumblebee]

You missed the truth of the hypocrisy we are now witnessing... you missed the words of JFK in the truest sense of what they mean... face it... you have missed the boat. The tide is rising and the WEF types and those that align with them have our number. We are vulnerable as a country and a civilization without truth and justice... Notice we have a 2 tier justice system in our country... I have pointed it out many times... but... when the truth is staring you in the face you deflect to me being some kind of ignorant type that doesn't understand anything.

Well, I choose to believe what is true just like you do.... Like you, I have lived in places that were corrupt though not a harrowing as the places you have lived. So what? Injustice is still injustice whether or not a war has been declared... or not.

All Tom did was confirm that he is a life long subscriber to the MSM / political narrative when it comes to the last election... his choice... we can believe the lies or not. The liars have been caught many times already from Biden on down... but... that doesn't matter...

TDS has no cure unless you have the Donkey Pox virus...
Donkey Pox has been re infecting the nation for decades. lol !

The "Left" went off the rails even before Trump won the 2016 election... so... what did they do? They attacked... and they are still attacking... that dog and pony show on TV last night was just the latest example of how far these shills for the WEF crowd are willing to go because they will also benefit by being re elected as a reward for the classless behavior they embody. JFK called them out decades ago... and he paid the ultimate price for it... JFK even commented to a few people close to him before that life ending event that he wouldn't be surprised if they did try to take him out.

Well... as Obama said... change is coming to America... how do you like the changes so far?
We have great leadership in our country and MSM don't we? Don't you love it when Hollywood types like Snoop Dog have a fake assassination photo op? Don't you like it when Johnny Depp, Alec Baldwin, Kathy Griffin and others speak of or demonstrate bloody images of a sitting president? Do any of the left wing political types call those people out? No... in fact they encourage it by not saying anything. In other words, they condone it.

So... go ahead and tell me the election wasn't stolen by people that support all the reckless mayhem we have all seen for going on 7 years. Its who they are... its what they do... the ends justifies the means by which it is done.

We get it.....you are passionate about all this crap...it is obvious by the novels you are writing on the subject...I learned long ago that brevity is the key to getting your point across as people stop reading on the 1st paragraph.

I still say @TallTom summed it up..Trump has all the resources at his fingertips, many more resources than the regular citizen as he is a wealthy person...if there were irrefutable evidence that puts him in the right, he'd have made that perfectly clear long ago.....the fact all he is doing is making noises tells me that's all there is to this whole thing.

 

[Bumblebee]

Hi. Well I am happy that the election was fair. If Trump did wrong he should pay the price for it. I think that the country is going in a much better direction now that Biben is in charge.

Time will soon tell if Trump did wrong....from my observations he certainly didn't do any good on Jan 6th....

That should be the takeaway from this...the fact he encouraged the mob to act against American democracy....

Biden is past his best before date too....he only won because people were sick and tired of Trump and his shenanigans...

 

[Zerks]

Time will soon tell if Trump did wrong....from my observations he certainly didn't do any good on Jan 6th....

That should be the takeaway from this...the fact he encouraged the mob to act against American democracy....

Biden is past his best before date too....he only won because people were sick and tired of Trump and his shenanigans...

Shenanigans like a much more secure southern border? The lowest unemployment rate for minorities, the stoppage of N Korea shooting rockets over Japan, the stock market doing good, or prison reform letting blacks that were given extreme sentences having their cases reviewed and getting released, getting out of the Paris Climate show where we pick up the tab, the cancelling of the Iran deal? Obama, Hillary and Kerry thought it was ok for Iran to enrich uranium... hmmm... do you wonder why some people don't think its a good idea to let that go forward?

All of this and a lot more while bucking the headwinds of Russia, phony impeachment x 2 and other stupid and contrived misuse of the FBI and DOJ resources that is still going on. What happened to the top guy at the FBI? Comey, Strocz, Page and Mc Cabe? All of them caught lying in front of Congress to take down Trump.

Some people find those actions listed that Trump took as commendable... others... not so much. As Schumer has said... if you don't vote democrat we will import people that will. Open that damn border!

Trump let the Press into the conference room several times when hot topics were being discussed that would normally be private... do you think Biden would ever let that happen?

Certain people that the dimtards don't like that were not even in DC on Jan 6th... but, they have been arrested for political reasons since then.

Whatever... watch Rome burn... its a show you will only see once in a lifetime... enjoy!

 

[macka]

you are like an actor who makes hyper valuing your persona more valuable than solving your life problems, you are pathologically dependent on short term impulsive destructive play, you are actually a slave to your own backward looking perspectives, a braying donkey probably has more forward thinking ideas

 

[Bumblebee]

Shenanigans like a much more secure southern border? The lowest unemployment rate for minorities, the stoppage of N Korea shooting rockets over Japan, the stock market doing good, or prison reform letting blacks that were given extreme sentences having their cases reviewed and getting released, getting out of the Paris Climate show where we pick up the tab, the cancelling of the Iran deal? Obama, Hillary and Kerry thought it was ok for Iran to enrich uranium... hmmm... do you wonder why some people don't think its a good idea to let that go forward?

All of this and a lot more while bucking the headwinds of Russia, phony impeachment x 2 and other stupid and contrived misuse of the FBI and DOJ resources that is still going on. What happened to the top guy at the FBI? Comey, Strocz, Page and Mc Cabe? All of them caught lying in front of Congress to take down Trump.

Some people find those actions listed that Trump took as commendable... others... not so much. As Schumer has said... if you don't vote democrat we will import people that will. Open that damn border!

Trump let the Press into the conference room several times when hot topics were being discussed that would normally be private... do you think Biden would ever let that happen?

Certain people that the dimtards don't like that were not even in DC on Jan 6th... but, they have been arrested for political reasons since then.

Whatever... watch Rome burn... its a show you will only see once in a lifetime... enjoy!

Not saying he didn't do some good things but it was all the drama that surrounded that pissed people off-the main voting body in the middle political alignment. As I said people didn't vote for Biden specifically, they voted out.

The US has survived worse...no need for a "chicken little" dance.

 

[TallTom]

Not saying he didn't do some good things but it was all the drama that surrounded that pissed people off-the main voting body in the middle political alignment. As I said people didn't vote for Biden specifically, they voted out.

The US has survived worse...no need for a "chicken little" dance.

Hell yes. We got through Obama. I hope to God we can get through Biden! He's only halfway into this nightmare of an administration.

That's the one good thing about our politics. Presidents can't last more than 8 years.