afterhours
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I have not done any laps on a Raven, only the 003 Stealth and the slicks.
had a blast.
had a blast.
Shinko Tires
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Dehning
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Afterhours - Give it up man that logic is lost on some.
TwoBrothersBusa - I alternate between my bikes, but ride the busa at least once every week on my commute and the tires are wearing very very slowly, but then again, the Ravens are SPORT TOURING tires, not pure sport tires, so that's probably expected. I can't speak to track use, but I know a few here can.
TwoBrothersBusa - I alternate between my bikes, but ride the busa at least once every week on my commute and the tires are wearing very very slowly, but then again, the Ravens are SPORT TOURING tires, not pure sport tires, so that's probably expected. I can't speak to track use, but I know a few here can.
Dehning
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I guess the this thread once again raises the same question:
Who can provide any certifiable proof that Shinkos are inferior to the more expensive brands when used under the conditions that 95% of us ride in every day.
I really and truly don't give a $hi+ how well your tire is capable of performing on a track, I want to know how it will fit my average Joe motorcyclist needs.
Who can provide any certifiable proof that Shinkos are inferior to the more expensive brands when used under the conditions that 95% of us ride in every day.
I really and truly don't give a $hi+ how well your tire is capable of performing on a track, I want to know how it will fit my average Joe motorcyclist needs.
Guys we are talking about 40 bucks for the diff in a Q2 set and a Shinko Raven set. Run what you will....for the 40 dollars and street and track cred I will run the Q2. Others enjoy your savings and laugh at us running higher cost rubber.
I've ridden them (003'S) on the track and had no problems.
As a point of reference I'm about a mid pack intermediate rider.
I can't really testify about how many track days they'll do because typically I'll buy a set of tires and put them on before a track day, run them, then keep them on for street riding till they wear out.
As a point of reference I'm about a mid pack intermediate rider.
I can't really testify about how many track days they'll do because typically I'll buy a set of tires and put them on before a track day, run them, then keep them on for street riding till they wear out.
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I've got to add my 2 cents. I have been running(succesfully) the ravens & 005's for 4 years & the thing that always comes up about Shinko tires is quality. You never hear Shinko users bash any other tire but Q2 guys seem to be the worst on any forum as if those tires were made by Zeus. Are majority of motorcyclr tires good & safe..Yes. I would like anyone to prove that Shinkos arent good tires. Not just running your yap, but put it thru its paces like i did & still do.(track, the dragon, TN to Pa thru WVa backroads) Also the ravens are SPORT TOURING tires & really wasnt designed to hang with the Q2 on the track, but they can hang in their own envelope at the track for it being a harder tire compared to the softer tires out there.The 005 can hang with the big boysl. Just because a tire cost more doesnt mean it any safer than a less expensive tire, you are paying for advertising. A lot of org members run Shinkos & havent heard them have blowouts, or any major catastrophic failures because they went with the Shinks instead of B-Stone,Mich,Avon etc. Do some research before you slam a tire that you never used. Not what a buddy said, but what you experienced.
Ultimately get what you want, but dont bash a brand unless YOU have proof that its 100% worthless.
Ultimately get what you want, but dont bash a brand unless YOU have proof that its 100% worthless.
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honestly I have not run a full season in years.....so I could not give you any help in that regard.
I'll tell you how you know a Shinko is a low quality tire! Because you never see anyone and I mean no one with any skills on a shinko. I have never seen anyone spanking a shinko at the track or on the twisties and no one with good sense is going to be their test monkey. Shinkos, blue jeans and sneakers usually go together from what I've witnessed. But then if they can't afford decent leathers they probably can't afford decent tires either.
They may get you from point A to point B and if that's all you ask, it may be just the tire for you. But don't ask someone else to test this low dollar prize because you don't have the balls or the skills to do it yourself. No one with skill enough to test a tire is dumb enough to be the Shinko crash monkey. Which one of you public defenders has ever seen a factory test of any Shinko? Come on, don't clam up on me now. It's your prized tire, show me the factory tests. I certainly have never seen one. You certainly haven't tested them so who, WHO has ever tested a shinko tire? Dehning? Nope, his 250 Hyosung wouldn't spin the tire if you rolled it in molases. Crunch1? Nope, he thinks because a tire is softer it gives better traction so he won't be much help.
I'm surprised you can't buy Shinkos at Walmart. Dunlop has their very own test track in Alabama. What does shinko have in South Korea? You guessed it "Nothing". They make em and they sell em "CHEAP". It's up to you to decide if they are useable
Also, let me test your ability to reason. What makes anyone buy the most powerful high performance sport bike on earth and put the cheapest freakin tire on earth between all that power and the pavement when you know (or maybe you don't know) that quarter size patch is the most important item you'll ever purchase and the only thing that separates you and all that power from disaster!
Buying a good proven tire is like buying an insurance policy. That extra hundred bucks is cheap for peace of mind knowing if you need it, its there!
Remember, no one buys Shinko tires because they are a great tire, they buy them solely because they are CHEAP!
They may get you from point A to point B and if that's all you ask, it may be just the tire for you. But don't ask someone else to test this low dollar prize because you don't have the balls or the skills to do it yourself. No one with skill enough to test a tire is dumb enough to be the Shinko crash monkey. Which one of you public defenders has ever seen a factory test of any Shinko? Come on, don't clam up on me now. It's your prized tire, show me the factory tests. I certainly have never seen one. You certainly haven't tested them so who, WHO has ever tested a shinko tire? Dehning? Nope, his 250 Hyosung wouldn't spin the tire if you rolled it in molases. Crunch1? Nope, he thinks because a tire is softer it gives better traction so he won't be much help.
I'm surprised you can't buy Shinkos at Walmart. Dunlop has their very own test track in Alabama. What does shinko have in South Korea? You guessed it "Nothing". They make em and they sell em "CHEAP". It's up to you to decide if they are useable
Also, let me test your ability to reason. What makes anyone buy the most powerful high performance sport bike on earth and put the cheapest freakin tire on earth between all that power and the pavement when you know (or maybe you don't know) that quarter size patch is the most important item you'll ever purchase and the only thing that separates you and all that power from disaster!
Buying a good proven tire is like buying an insurance policy. That extra hundred bucks is cheap for peace of mind knowing if you need it, its there!
Remember, no one buys Shinko tires because they are a great tire, they buy them solely because they are CHEAP!
afterhours
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I'll tell you how you know a Shinko is a low quality tire! Because you never see anyone and I mean no one with any skills on a shinko. I have never seen anyone spanking a shinko at the track or on the twisties and no one with good sense is going to be their test monkey. Shinkos, blue jeans and sneakers usually go together from what I've witnessed. But then if they can't afford decent leathers they probably can't afford decent tires either.
They may get you from point A to point B and if that's all you ask, it may be just the tire for you. But don't ask someone else to test this low dollar prize because you don't have the balls or the skills to do it yourself. No one with skill enough to test a tire is dumb enough to be the Shinko crash monkey. Which one of you public defenders has ever seen a factory test of any Shinko? Come on, don't clam up on me now. It's your prized tire, show me the factory tests. I certainly have never seen one. You certainly haven't tested them so who, WHO has ever tested a shinko tire? Dehning? Nope, his 250 Hyosung wouldn't spin the tire if you rolled it in molases. Crunch1? Nope, he thinks because a tire is softer it gives better traction so he won't be much help.
I'm surprised you can't buy Shinkos at Walmart. Dunlop has their very own test track in Alabama. What does shinko have in South Korea? You guessed it "Nothing". They make em and they sell em "CHEAP". It's up to you to decide if they are useable
Also, let me test your ability to reason. What makes anyone buy the most powerful high performance sport bike on earth and put the cheapest freakin tire on earth between all that power and the pavement when you know (or maybe you don't know) that quarter size patch is the most important item you'll ever purchase and the only thing that separates you and all that power from disaster!
Buying a good proven tire is like buying an insurance policy. That extra hundred bucks is cheap for peace of mind knowing if you need it, its there!
Remember, no one buys Shinko tires because they are a great tire, they buy them solely because they are CHEAP!
so have you ever used a Shinko?
Watch this video and you'll see that not only do they have a test track, they build tires for several other companies, including Continental.
- Shinko Motorcycle Tires Introduction[/url]
I'll tell you how you know a Shinko is a low quality tire! Because you never see anyone and I mean no one with any skills on a shinko. I have never seen anyone spanking a shinko at the track or on the twisties and no one with good sense is going to be their test monkey. Shinkos, blue jeans and sneakers usually go together from what I've witnessed. But then if they can't afford decent leathers they probably can't afford decent tires either.
They may get you from point A to point B and if that's all you ask, it may be just the tire for you. But don't ask someone else to test this low dollar prize because you don't have the balls or the skills to do it yourself. No one with skill enough to test a tire is dumb enough to be the Shinko crash monkey. Which one of you public defenders has ever seen a factory test of any Shinko? Come on, don't clam up on me now. It's your prized tire, show me the factory tests. I certainly have never seen one. You certainly haven't tested them so who, WHO has ever tested a shinko tire? Dehning? Nope, his 250 Hyosung wouldn't spin the tire if you rolled it in molases. Crunch1? Nope, he thinks because a tire is softer it gives better traction so he won't be much help.
I'm surprised you can't buy Shinkos at Walmart. Dunlop has their very own test track in Alabama. What does shinko have in South Korea? You guessed it "Nothing". They make em and they sell em "CHEAP". It's up to you to decide if they are useable
Also, let me test your ability to reason. What makes anyone buy the most powerful high performance sport bike on earth and put the cheapest freakin tire on earth between all that power and the pavement when you know (or maybe you don't know) that quarter size patch is the most important item you'll ever purchase and the only thing that separates you and all that power from disaster!
Buying a good proven tire is like buying an insurance policy. That extra hundred bucks is cheap for peace of mind knowing if you need it, its there!
Remember, no one buys Shinko tires because they are a great tire, they buy them solely because they are CHEAP!
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I watched the vid a number of times and I saw no evidence of a Shinko testing track? Did I miss something?
I did see they also claim to sell more motorcycle tires in the USA than any other manufactuer. Wow! Now that's a far reaching statement. If that is so, I'm not sure where they are sold but I rarely ever see a Shinko shod bike up here. Maybe they are all in Texas, that is a huge state?
I have no idea if they make Continentals tires. I think Continental is in Taiwan? Another questional brand. However, you do see Continentals on rare occasions included in tire tests. They always score on the bottom of the list as far as I've seen. I have never seen a tire test that included a shinko of any kind.
I did see they also claim to sell more motorcycle tires in the USA than any other manufactuer. Wow! Now that's a far reaching statement. If that is so, I'm not sure where they are sold but I rarely ever see a Shinko shod bike up here. Maybe they are all in Texas, that is a huge state?
I have no idea if they make Continentals tires. I think Continental is in Taiwan? Another questional brand. However, you do see Continentals on rare occasions included in tire tests. They always score on the bottom of the list as far as I've seen. I have never seen a tire test that included a shinko of any kind.
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Why does an average rider, that will ride from home to work, and an occassional canyon ride......need the same tires that the AMA Pro Riders are using to win races?
they don't.
You have bought into the hype.
No hype my friend. I have simply taken the time and made the effort to educate myself on tires. I'd like to see more people do the same.
A Shinko tire would indeed work better for you than a SuperBike Race tire. It takes heat to make a superbike tire work decently and it takes lots of heat to make it perform well. Neither you nor any average rider is capable of generating enough heat in a Superbike tire to make it perform well.
Stick with Street/Track tires and you'll be served well.
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Let's see what Google has to say:
Motorcycle USA - "As it is I have to report the overall experience with these budget buns is favorable."
BikeBandit customer review, all 5 out of 5 stars save one which is 4 out of 5
Private person, Long, favorable review on Sportbike.ws
The Examiner - "The tire is exceptional for the type of daily riding I do."
Motorcycle USA tire comparison - "...we wouldn’t hesitate to put a set on our bike...In fact they’ll work acceptably for all riders as long as you can show some throttle hand restraint when exiting a corner"
...and that's just from the first page of results.
Then try searching for for problem results, you have to go through a few pages but you can find the odd entry, the Shinko 244 off-road tire seems to have some inflation issues and a few people complained that the 005's wore more quickly than they had hoped. Many people comment that the Raven is a stiff tire, but none equate that with anything more than being a by-product of being a sport touring tire.
Tuf, I'm glad you've found something that works well for your riding style, I have too. I have satisfied myself that I am not risking my life to any greater degree by using Shinko Stealths so I'll happily continue using those going forwards. In the future, anybody want to hit me up for a report on how they are doing or to see if I have been in some grizzly accident because of them, please feel free to PM me.
Motorcycle USA - "As it is I have to report the overall experience with these budget buns is favorable."
BikeBandit customer review, all 5 out of 5 stars save one which is 4 out of 5
Private person, Long, favorable review on Sportbike.ws
The Examiner - "The tire is exceptional for the type of daily riding I do."
Motorcycle USA tire comparison - "...we wouldn’t hesitate to put a set on our bike...In fact they’ll work acceptably for all riders as long as you can show some throttle hand restraint when exiting a corner"
...and that's just from the first page of results.
Then try searching for for problem results, you have to go through a few pages but you can find the odd entry, the Shinko 244 off-road tire seems to have some inflation issues and a few people complained that the 005's wore more quickly than they had hoped. Many people comment that the Raven is a stiff tire, but none equate that with anything more than being a by-product of being a sport touring tire.
Tuf, I'm glad you've found something that works well for your riding style, I have too. I have satisfied myself that I am not risking my life to any greater degree by using Shinko Stealths so I'll happily continue using those going forwards. In the future, anybody want to hit me up for a report on how they are doing or to see if I have been in some grizzly accident because of them, please feel free to PM me.
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Dehning, thanks for your informative experiences in this thread!
It appears that folks who are actually utilizing Shinkos think they are acceptable tires, me included. The original poster asked "has anyone used them and are they good for the Busa, I like to ride hard in the curves will they hold." I would suspect they are ok for his style.
Will track stars use them? Apparently not! Will some riders use them commuting, some curves, mountains, etc.? Apparently yes!
It appears that folks who are actually utilizing Shinkos think they are acceptable tires, me included. The original poster asked "has anyone used them and are they good for the Busa, I like to ride hard in the curves will they hold." I would suspect they are ok for his style.
Will track stars use them? Apparently not! Will some riders use them commuting, some curves, mountains, etc.? Apparently yes!
Actually i have ridden shinkos on three different bikes. 1 cruiser which they did perform well. 2 rockets. My gsxr100 and my busa. I currently have a shinko left on the rear. I am in the process of switching back to my tire of choice power pilots. The shinko on a sport bike doesnt hold in the corners and the flatter profile sucks period. The touch of extended life i do get out of it isnt worth the wonder of is it gonna slide and scoot on me. I ride hard and do lots of twisties in the area and have done track days here and there and i have had shinks on the track. They suck period. Plains as day the owrst tire i have ever run on the busa period. But for the average rider who doesnt push there riding experience to the limit they may work fine. I will say they had superior grip in the rain it seemed like. I do have to stick with my michelines though as they have the better all around experience for me. I get 1 season out of a rear and 2 out of a front. I ride em to the edges and do roughly 7000 miles on a rear 10k on a front all depends on if i have a track day in there. Then the life goes down a lot.
They did include Shinkos in a big tire test (MCN maybe?) that I read. They stated that they were very good tires and considering the price they were fantastic. They did perform at the track in the back of the pack. They were only a second or so off of the slowest major brands. This was all out track racing. So they WILL hold up and are safe for racing. They are not at this time a top of the pack race tire, except for drag racing. So, quality wise they are great, price wise they are great, they just perform at the racing level at the back of the pack. Bringing up the rear so to speak....
So, for normal street driving, depending on model you buy, they can be more tire than you will use. I'm trying the Dunlop Roadsmart next on the BKing for the rear. In Florida I have no serious turns and mile wide chicken strips! I'm going for pure mileage.
So, for normal street driving, depending on model you buy, they can be more tire than you will use. I'm trying the Dunlop Roadsmart next on the BKing for the rear. In Florida I have no serious turns and mile wide chicken strips! I'm going for pure mileage.
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