Skin Color under the Helmet
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Never been to a white bike week Hmmmm, also I guess you could say that ALL or MOST harley owners are prejudious, when it comes to sport bikes, guess their should be a seperate sport bike week as well. How about a female bike week, asian bike week ect... when does it end? Could we have a white bike week? Would it be ok? or would jessie and all come protesting it cause it is a white thing? If it has white this white that it is racist, BUT if it is black this and that it's good ok and no problem, is this not a double standard, as well as a total segrigating thing, or is bike week not good enough that some need a special one just for them? Seriously this is gotten rediculous. as well as the screams of racism have, to gain promotions, jobs not deserved cause you need to have someone of color, or sexual orientation ect... in a position ect.... or is it my imagination?
So why not take their right to protest away, make it only people or color can protest and all, seems to be only and best way. then you would not have to worry about people like them.
It is a good tool to use on someone you want to discredit, think about it, just the accusation thats your a racists. Can really eliminate compatition, someone in your way, now you can get that promotion, or revealing they are now your concidered a politically correct person for revealing it, so it destroys someone big deal go you that promotion, or put you in the spot light ect... It is a very very good weapon to use today in this day in age. And to think people do this and all. sad but another little politically correct thing to do, what a bunch of warped people, but then when will it stop. also how do you know whats trueth or fact or whats being said to say it to discredit someone for a gain? Cannot tell anymore. Things black people can say but a white person even breaths it thier labeled now.
well could say, that someone white is white trash trailor trash whats the difference, it is a negative lable like jap, ****** ect... just that it is okay to say it about white people and acceptable, but not acceptable to say same equivalent about another race, hmmmmm kinda double standard we have all been desensatized too all in the glorious name of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.
good points especially about those southerners who did not want blacks bussed into their boston schools and rioted not to have them busses into boston. Hmmmm wait boston is in a northern state hmmmm new england state too be more so. Hmmmmmm. Nah never have a northern state fight against desegrigation? or could did we? hmmmmmmIts funny how regions vary, if a Big Black rally was in Detroit, or Cleveland, or others parts of the north I doubt very little would be said or done. But there has been racial separation in the South that dates back way before the Civil war. Unfortunately there has been racism since the beginning of time, and until the end of time will it seize. There's bad apples in every crowd, there is white trash as well as black trash. I base my life on doing to others as I would want done to me, In the presence of God we are all equal , but until then we deal with this issue, I guess I can sum it up like this Your my brother regardless what color,race, or gender you are until you do me wrong, I have alot of black brothers whom Im very close, we ride have fun and visit each others homes and like we say get below the surface we all bleed red. .....
But yup their is always bad apples in all bunches, and one day political correctness is going to kick us all in our a$$e$ and when that happens it is going to hurt.
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re-read my post,
i did not say, it's okay to call a white person "white trash". i was trying to say that you should not use racial slurs that bothers your fellow americans, regardless of which skin color americans they are.
there are alot of negative racial slurs out there but i brought the term, "JAP" because it's been use quite a bit in the bike world by people that doesn't give damn whether it bothers their fellow americans or not.
it's not about political correctness, it's about hate, when people use those racial slurs toward others because they look different.
willgetbusa
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amen bro.
i wish all people think that way but it's not the case at this point, hate has been passed through the generations and it hasn't stop yet even though we're all americans.
So true but still think about it, can be racist when refering to white people, but do not say anything equal to those slurs about another race... and what about blacks who call one another *****, ****** ect... ever see that? pisses alot of people who are black off but yet that thug thing enters in, but be white and say it and yoru a racists hmmmmm but still can call whites honkies, white bread, trailor trash ect... it is ok, but do not call anyone else non white the equivalent to white trash, trailor trash ect... then thats racists. but it is fine okay and cool to say it about white people, all in the name of political correctness.
good concept except never happen we are all guilty of our past, we did it even if we were not their were guilty and always will be guilty of the past.
I guess you didn't read the article entirely before posting your reply. The reporter wrote that there are documented actions BY the city and state government that were designed to specifically "address" the Black Bike Festival by doubling police presence, blocking off a main street to one way, local businesses closing in the area of the BBF, etc... Hell, even the local waitress confirmed the racist mentality in the area. HOW MUCH MORE BLANTANCY do you need??
If in this case, you were right, that Jessie, Al or whoever was falsely "crying wolf", how do you explain the actions taken by the city and state government, the actions of the local businesses, the waitress' statement???
Fakk2, you need to get your head out of the sand. It may hurt your pride to admit it, but it's reality: In this day and age, there are still whites that are very prejudice against non-whites. And yes, there are plenty of non-whites that exhibit racism as well. But if you compare it to the longer history of racist dominancy by the whites, you can almost say that the racist sentiment practiced by non-whites against whites are almost a reactionary effect, therefore somewhat as a defensive strategy if you will. Hence, you may have the formation of self-segregated associations and events.
But the funny thing is, I've been to plenty of these race "specific" events while I'm not of that ethnicity. And each and every single time, I felt obviously welcome at best, but NOT discriminated like I shouldn't be there AT WORST. But I'll tell you this, in the non-race label specific events that are predominately white (Like some last bikeshow that was mainly Harley and choppers at Long Beach CA), I can feel eyes on my back like I shouldn't be there, like the only reason I should be there is to deliver fast Chinese food since I'm obviously Asian.
Fakk2, I'm not accusing you of being a racist, but I AM accusing you of being in denial! Next, you'll going to say that the Jewish Halocaoust didn't really happen in WWII!! That it was all a proproganda spun up by the bleeding heart liberals, etc...
I maybe wrong, but I do think you ARE white. Nothing wrong with that. But you should try to really experience what it is like on this side of the fence before you accuse people of victimizing themselves. And I don't mean your last brief trip to your local black neighborhood for 30 minutes either. Try Iraq or Iran or any one of those middle east countries there for a few years. Those guys are the kings of racist, they hate everyone that are none Muslim, and even other Muslims from a neighboring country. But they would hate you as a white American even more.
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My only comment is that this shouldnt be a surprise to anyone unless you have been living in a cave. Although things have gotten a lot better in some instances, there are others that are even worse. just one mans opinion
good one, use that as a weapon. you are accusing me of it, thats fine, do what or say what you must to make you feel good about yoruself. arabs stood witht he nazi's in wwII. but I bet you, you would not give a damn for a Native American who's land is gone cause of racism and biggotry and hatred. how we forget those in a black and white only world of yours. I am catholic, bet you that bothers you more than anything too. But I am not practicing so do not worry. gave it up for lent. But use the holocost as a weapon to call me a racist only makes you look better to all here and gives me the label now.
blacks are as much biggots as whites are and all and your proof of it, racism is a good weapon. good luck and god bless your rasicist labeling. Will let my best friend know I am a racist when it comes to jews in the holocost.. oh wow wait his father has numbers tattoed on him from a concentration camps wow I need to stop being friends with him cause of his father, and cause now you labeled me a biggot when it comes to jews and wwII. Hmmmm god bless people like you again... your what makes rasism linger on and on and on. Just remember their are probably just as many blacks who are far more rasists than whites will ever dream of being, whites are not exclusive to that. and it is a fact. Just a hard one to swallow. and get a grip on real life. no one is innocent just better at it and can hide behind their skin color anda ll in the name of political correctness.
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blacks are as much biggots as whites are and all and your proof of it, racism is a good weapon. good luck and god bless your rasicist labeling. Will let my best friend know I am a racist when it comes to jews in the holocost.. oh wow wait his father has numbers tattoed on him from a concentration camps wow I need to stop being friends with him cause of his father, and cause now you labeled me a biggot when it comes to jews and wwII. Hmmmm god bless people like you again... your what makes rasism linger on and on and on. Just remember their are probably just as many blacks who are far more rasists than whites will ever dream of being, whites are not exclusive to that. and it is a fact. Just a hard one to swallow. and get a grip on real life. no one is innocent just better at it and can hide behind their skin color anda ll in the name of political correctness.
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Sorry people closed their bussinesses out of fear, YES out of fear of death ect... they do it for black college reunion in daytona. I do not blame them, the destruction that takes place, and the runnign out on paying their bills for food services ect... during the week event and the added security, but then again it is a free country till you make a law to force them to open up or else. but your the type that woudl take that freedom away and god bless you for wantiing limited freedom. Choice is an issue if my place got trashed or lost money during the event why open haveit open for the event? unless I liked loosing business, I would not want to loose money over anyone be them black or white. They closed down to spring breakers and good ridden to the mtv crowd, their no better either.
Here is a good thing of biggotry hatred, judgment based on skin ect... would you date or hang out with someone overweight? or been seen with someone like that on your bike? Someone who is not ideal weight and ideal body? HELL NO, so we all are discriminating in some sense of the word alot will always be in denial as well as accuse others of it to hide their biggoted side.
Fakk2, don't you read??? I'm not accusing you of being a bigot. I'm accusing you of being in denial of the existing racism that still exist, from people of all ethnicities.
I even went to college with some white guys that are racist against whites and would only hang out with blacks, mexicans, asians.... In fact, this guy, Mike that rides a R6, that I know of is white and would not hang out with whites. He married a Phillipine girl.
You could be a cool guy, and at least on my end I could sit down with you and drink scotch debating this issue and still go for a ride. But it seems to me that you only see that other non-whites are racist against whites and that whites are no longer racist against non-whites. Just open your eyes and see it.
If us Busa / Bike riders can change the world with our unity of the bikers' bond to wipe out racism, I'm sure that the grand majority would. But that's not going to happen. But what we can do is acknowledge it and recognize it.
By the way, don't know why you threw in the "Catholic" play, but just to squash that, I'm a "recovering" Catholic myself. Grew up in NYC going to Sunday school at the Church of Transfiguration while my mother attended 11am Mass each and every Sunday. So your shot in the dark just bounced back at you.
I even went to college with some white guys that are racist against whites and would only hang out with blacks, mexicans, asians.... In fact, this guy, Mike that rides a R6, that I know of is white and would not hang out with whites. He married a Phillipine girl.
You could be a cool guy, and at least on my end I could sit down with you and drink scotch debating this issue and still go for a ride. But it seems to me that you only see that other non-whites are racist against whites and that whites are no longer racist against non-whites. Just open your eyes and see it.
If us Busa / Bike riders can change the world with our unity of the bikers' bond to wipe out racism, I'm sure that the grand majority would. But that's not going to happen. But what we can do is acknowledge it and recognize it.
By the way, don't know why you threw in the "Catholic" play, but just to squash that, I'm a "recovering" Catholic myself. Grew up in NYC going to Sunday school at the Church of Transfiguration while my mother attended 11am Mass each and every Sunday. So your shot in the dark just bounced back at you.
rasism will always be... no one will ever be a whole, always have someone who is envious of someone else. We you me will never change it. their will always be racism, biggotry ect... it is a choice, I do not like red heads, never date one ever ect... see what I mean red heads are not discriminated against by me. cause I will not date one or give time of day too or go near. Hmmmmm... as far as catholic goes been their doen it was brought up in and schooled in YUK did nothing for me at all just not my thing anymore. democrates hate republicans theirs a good one while they preach love and harmony and getting along with one another ect... they also preach hatred towards republicans. might not be a good analogy of it but get the picture, those who preach against hate are the biggest promoters of hatrerd... Why I gave it up in 92 and stoped carring about who wins in 2000. hate is hate, and funny abotu all this is, I live with a woman who is not white, and is 100% her ethnicity.
I'm not touching the racists part of this thread, that said;
1)"Some buisnesses close" I lived in Daytona, and witnessed how BCR(Black College Reunion) is more destructive to hotels than spring break(the next worse), Rolex race week, Daytona 500 week, Turkey rod run, Pepsi 400 race week, bike week, Biketoberfest, and a couple other special events. Its about hotels/restrauants making a profit. If the owner of a hotel wants to close it so it doesn't get damaged(as they have in the past), its his/her right! They're not closing it because of race, they're closing it because of money. If they closed it to only blacks, then they would be racist. Since they're closing it completely(to everyone), they're closing it to all. Of course there are always a few racist hotel/restraunt owners, you can't get around that(human nature).
2)"more police" If events have gotten out of hand in the past and the police do not prepare for it the next year, who do you think is going to get the blame?? If the police let people hurt themselves or others, the police department gets sued. If the police department tightens up on an event know to cause harm to people or property, then they're racists. Not really fair is it?? Of course there are always a few in the police departent that are racists, you can't get around that(human nature).
3. The press. News articles are almost always sensationalized. The press pushes the public's buttons to make money. Notice the only waitress that was quoted, had a very provactive statement that I'm POSITIVE does not reflect what other people think. I'm sure there are people who could care less about Black Bike week that live there. And granted sometimes the press reports objectively.
Just don't be so quick to assume its only racism. Sometimes there are reasonable factors. Money, liability, and the sensationalizing press all very reasonable to me.
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1)"Some buisnesses close" I lived in Daytona, and witnessed how BCR(Black College Reunion) is more destructive to hotels than spring break(the next worse), Rolex race week, Daytona 500 week, Turkey rod run, Pepsi 400 race week, bike week, Biketoberfest, and a couple other special events. Its about hotels/restrauants making a profit. If the owner of a hotel wants to close it so it doesn't get damaged(as they have in the past), its his/her right! They're not closing it because of race, they're closing it because of money. If they closed it to only blacks, then they would be racist. Since they're closing it completely(to everyone), they're closing it to all. Of course there are always a few racist hotel/restraunt owners, you can't get around that(human nature).
2)"more police" If events have gotten out of hand in the past and the police do not prepare for it the next year, who do you think is going to get the blame?? If the police let people hurt themselves or others, the police department gets sued. If the police department tightens up on an event know to cause harm to people or property, then they're racists. Not really fair is it?? Of course there are always a few in the police departent that are racists, you can't get around that(human nature).
3. The press. News articles are almost always sensationalized. The press pushes the public's buttons to make money. Notice the only waitress that was quoted, had a very provactive statement that I'm POSITIVE does not reflect what other people think. I'm sure there are people who could care less about Black Bike week that live there. And granted sometimes the press reports objectively.
Just don't be so quick to assume its only racism. Sometimes there are reasonable factors. Money, liability, and the sensationalizing press all very reasonable to me.
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