They trashed the place worse than the morons of spring breakers(mtv types). Nothing but want and destruction why bother opening up, save whats left of your business and all. Anyone here in the same boat would not open either. Why would you want to open up to a bunch of detructive people, Thats why daytona gave up on promoting spring break. Not worth it and do not blame them either. these are college people Hmmmmm wonder if people acted like that in their parents home business ect... they probably would not care either thats probably how they act all the time. And the ones who are really down to relax and unwind get labeled. It;s the bad apple syndrom.
Skin Color under the Helmet
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I can't agree that it's "human nature" to be racist or a bigot. It's environmental or 'Societal' nature. You think the grand majority of grade school kids care what color their friends are? Who they play with? Who they hold hands with crossing the street during a field trip? They/we didn't learn to start 'seeing' colors until junior high or high school.
On the subject of businesses closing to minimize or avoid costly damages. I agree 100% if there's a experience of it in the past, regardless of what the event is. Businesses are in the business to make money, not lose money. But we don't know if the previous BBF event has caused anymore or less damages to business in the past.
I care about color, that is the only I care about is GREEN = $$$. Just like I told some black customer that accused me of racism while I was working part-time at Pizza Hut during college. Had to ask him to pull out a dollar bill to show me, and all I did was point at that bill in his hand and emphasis that's the only color I see.
Anyone seen that older movie "My Dog Spot"? I loved that movie, got me all choked up at the end. But there was a part in the movie where the narrater said in some respect, "Spot, like all dogs are smarter. They're color blind and don't care who they play with." Words of wisdom.
On the subject of businesses closing to minimize or avoid costly damages. I agree 100% if there's a experience of it in the past, regardless of what the event is. Businesses are in the business to make money, not lose money. But we don't know if the previous BBF event has caused anymore or less damages to business in the past.
I care about color, that is the only I care about is GREEN = $$$. Just like I told some black customer that accused me of racism while I was working part-time at Pizza Hut during college. Had to ask him to pull out a dollar bill to show me, and all I did was point at that bill in his hand and emphasis that's the only color I see.
Anyone seen that older movie "My Dog Spot"? I loved that movie, got me all choked up at the end. But there was a part in the movie where the narrater said in some respect, "Spot, like all dogs are smarter. They're color blind and don't care who they play with." Words of wisdom.
Whatever you want to call it, you got the point. There will always be racist people, just like thieves, murders, rapists, etc.. Hopefully we can raise our children better to reduce the numbers...
Whatever you want to call it, you got the point. There will always be racist people, just like thieves, murders, rapists, etc.. Hopefully we can raise our children better to reduce the numbers...[/QUOTE]
I'm with you on that one, Playa .;
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Green is EVERYTHING... As far as black white most of the people in the military in my platoons were black. They knew how I felt and stood and none had a problem, We all got along great. not all hung around all the time, but we did not ever have a problem ever. When partying as a platoon we were the platoon of partiers.
as far as costs to ones busniess is this point blank I am in to make money would you not be, if my bottom line is repairing damage from events and I am breaking even or loosing money then why open.
I hate animals, why... cause everytime getting a dog I was the one who had to take care of it ect... no one else would yet their the ones who wanted it. Doesn't mean since I hate animals I would harm them. Just have no patients....
As far as a post above these, BCR is the worst event, spring break up their... then theirs mixed but here it is different, alot of money passes around for the auto and motorcycle events. were bcr and spring break brings hardly anything in except rif raf. thought bikers are just that to a point they do know when too and when not too were as the others do not care.
Me I love bikes, first one had I was 17... did not have a car till I was 25 and just out of the military, met a woman and she did not like bikes so I snuck around to ride... that was back in 1986, she died in 2000 and now I have someone else who's kids are getting me a Busa, if you read my posts you will see lost an '04 LE before I got it to francs but the new one is in now still in the box as of 3 days ago, Bikes are everything to me, as far as the world is concerned who cares, I see nothing but that... and others who have common interest... but others see other things...
now talk about discrimination ect... see harley people do this and that BUT no no do not do that on a sport bike. you got it, seen the tickets fly, bottom line rasism in some shape or form ect... will always exist... it is never going to go away. and political correctness is just going to keep it going, it would have long died out except you need it for political correctness to work. think about it. If hate was so bad then why does the anti haters hate?
as far as costs to ones busniess is this point blank I am in to make money would you not be, if my bottom line is repairing damage from events and I am breaking even or loosing money then why open.
I hate animals, why... cause everytime getting a dog I was the one who had to take care of it ect... no one else would yet their the ones who wanted it. Doesn't mean since I hate animals I would harm them. Just have no patients....
As far as a post above these, BCR is the worst event, spring break up their... then theirs mixed but here it is different, alot of money passes around for the auto and motorcycle events. were bcr and spring break brings hardly anything in except rif raf. thought bikers are just that to a point they do know when too and when not too were as the others do not care.
Me I love bikes, first one had I was 17... did not have a car till I was 25 and just out of the military, met a woman and she did not like bikes so I snuck around to ride... that was back in 1986, she died in 2000 and now I have someone else who's kids are getting me a Busa, if you read my posts you will see lost an '04 LE before I got it to francs but the new one is in now still in the box as of 3 days ago, Bikes are everything to me, as far as the world is concerned who cares, I see nothing but that... and others who have common interest... but others see other things...
now talk about discrimination ect... see harley people do this and that BUT no no do not do that on a sport bike. you got it, seen the tickets fly, bottom line rasism in some shape or form ect... will always exist... it is never going to go away. and political correctness is just going to keep it going, it would have long died out except you need it for political correctness to work. think about it. If hate was so bad then why does the anti haters hate?
Nothing against you, but that comment always comes off as an excuse rather than a reason.
Was not trying but think about it, you teach your kids this and that BUT BAM!!! on tv/movies ect... shows something different ect...
Not an excuse, how do you fight against something like that? It comes to a never ending battle.......
I have locked out mtv vh1 ect... so my kid will not view such crap, locked out alot of movie things.. and I monitor it as much as I can.
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I 've been following this thread closely.
Charlesbusa, you nailed it on the head. Why would the city pay for more cops, and endure business closings that pay those cops if there wasn't a problem. Who gives a sh*t if the skin is white, black, yellow or red. At the end of the day the Mayor on down has to make sure that revenue is being generated to fund the city budget. If it quacks like a duck, it must be a duck. Let's not split atoms here.
It's so easy to say or write!
I was very hesitant to respond to this thread, however, it amazes me how some people speak about "White bike week", "Asian bike week", etc....It is so easy for many of you who have never ever experienced racism to mentioned "Why Black Bike Week, Why not just Bike Week", etc. Until you have walked in my shoes or the shoes of some of the others who have experience racism by so called "Americans", you or no one else can question the name "Black Bike Week". I guess the next thing you will want to repel Affirmative Action. This thread just affirms that we still haven't gotten anywhere as a society. Racism still exists. It hasn't gone anywhere. It's not as visible.
^^ beer in every fridge.
This reminds me of a conversation I had some years ago (early 90’s). I was at a local car wash (El Paso, TX) and approached by this guy. It turned out that he was a foreign student attending the University of Texas at El Paso. He was from Africa. Now, I think the perception of Africa during this time was of a racially divided land (Mandela, South Africa, etc.). He questioned me about racial discrimination. I’m thinking you’re from Africa and you need to ask me about racial discrimination. He was from a part of Africa where he did not experience racial prejudice. And yes, there were many whites and blacks. I was shocked and enlightened at the same time that a place exists. Well, there was one part of our conversation that has always stood out and I repeat it often. In his native land, if someone witnessed a crime and had to provide a description, they would probably start with (he was 5’10â€â€¦ weighed about 190 lbs…etc.etc.etc). Whereas in the United States of America, we would probably start with (he was white…or he was black…etc.etc.etc). The point that I am trying to make is that in his land, they did not see color first, a somewhat colorblind society. Here in the USA, we (or most of us) see color first than American second.
As far as BBW, I haven’t been there but would like to attend someday, as with Daytona Bike Week, not Sturgis. Does the name have some sort of historical reference? Is this being promoted as a black only event? Personally, I did not associate BBW with being black as much as I associated it with sportbikes (which includes all races). I could be in the minority here, but that was my personal feeling. Of course, those who have attended these events would know more.
As for racially segregated events, they are all a form of discrimination based on perception and threat. Let me explain. If a group decided to have a 65 and over sportbike rally, no one would think twice. Why, because they are a minority and we would not feel threatened. Now, if someone decided to have a White Bike Week, it would be looked at differently because they make up the majority. Is there any difference between the two events? Not really, but society, news media, and those external to the event would see them differently. And of course WBW would command all of the attention.
As far as BBW, I haven’t been there but would like to attend someday, as with Daytona Bike Week, not Sturgis. Does the name have some sort of historical reference? Is this being promoted as a black only event? Personally, I did not associate BBW with being black as much as I associated it with sportbikes (which includes all races). I could be in the minority here, but that was my personal feeling. Of course, those who have attended these events would know more.
As for racially segregated events, they are all a form of discrimination based on perception and threat. Let me explain. If a group decided to have a 65 and over sportbike rally, no one would think twice. Why, because they are a minority and we would not feel threatened. Now, if someone decided to have a White Bike Week, it would be looked at differently because they make up the majority. Is there any difference between the two events? Not really, but society, news media, and those external to the event would see them differently. And of course WBW would command all of the attention.
suzuki4life
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Ummmm geesh ladies.
You have BIKE WEEK.
Then you have BLACK BIKE WEEK.
Never ever ever heard of a WHITE BIKE WEEK.
Bike week was and is mostly harley focused. Its just an open invitation to have your bike stolen nowdays anyway.
BLACK BIKE WEEK was made with focus on NON HARLEYS, not their owners. Ever heard of being "BLACK BALLED"? Similiar concept.
I think someone here is too worried about the goberment trying to keep a brother down. BTW I am officially among the nation's LEAST appreciated, LEAST cared for and LEAST provided for minority. The post-teen pre-middle aged WHITE MALE.
Why can EVERY Race but whites receive benefits from the NAACP but its not considered racist? The NAACP will allow me to be a contributing member BUT my kids will NEVER be eligible for scholarships, grants etc because they are WHITE. Racism and discrimmination is its PUREST form.
You have BIKE WEEK.
Then you have BLACK BIKE WEEK.
Never ever ever heard of a WHITE BIKE WEEK.
Bike week was and is mostly harley focused. Its just an open invitation to have your bike stolen nowdays anyway.
BLACK BIKE WEEK was made with focus on NON HARLEYS, not their owners. Ever heard of being "BLACK BALLED"? Similiar concept.
I think someone here is too worried about the goberment trying to keep a brother down. BTW I am officially among the nation's LEAST appreciated, LEAST cared for and LEAST provided for minority. The post-teen pre-middle aged WHITE MALE.
Why can EVERY Race but whites receive benefits from the NAACP but its not considered racist? The NAACP will allow me to be a contributing member BUT my kids will NEVER be eligible for scholarships, grants etc because they are WHITE. Racism and discrimmination is its PUREST form.
suzuki4life
Banned
btw ladies:
NAACP:National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
Last time I checked, white is still a color.
NAACP:National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
Last time I checked, white is still a color.
BigDawg_03Busa
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The reason there ever is a "Black" anything is because every other traditional event is considered "White" and people of color weren't allowed. So African Americans in the past decided, you won't allow me at your event, I'll create my own. If bikers of color could have riden any where at any time, there would not have been a need for a "Black Bike Week".
suzuki4life
Banned
yeah man and so is the KKK. Still doesn't make it right and I have a real problem with my tax money being used and/or spent on allowing such rallies etc to occur. And we won't even begin to discuss hidden or political donations to the NAACP. We are a nation as a whole. My nation's cash should ONLY be spent on orginations that equally allow all citizens.
BigDawg_03Busa
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Let's not mistake these two words "prejudice" & "racist". They are very different.
Prejudice means to pre-judge, based on a variety of visual or auditory attributes. I'm guilty of "prejudice" towards any people, but it's hard not looking at someone and kind of predicting their personality.
Racism is outright hate/dislike for someone specifically because of the color of their skin or culture. It doesn't matter to a racist whether I'm an educated African American male treating their mother who recently had a stroke. All that matters is I'm black, while my white counterpart may have cheated through school and doesn't know the patient's anatomy from his own LOL. My point is some patients are completely uncomfortable with my touching them because of my heritage. Others prejudge me (believe me I can tell), but after a brief conversation I usually get them laughing and they're puddy in my hands then
Anyway just wanted to clarify. I see where this thread is headed.
BD
Prejudice means to pre-judge, based on a variety of visual or auditory attributes. I'm guilty of "prejudice" towards any people, but it's hard not looking at someone and kind of predicting their personality.
Racism is outright hate/dislike for someone specifically because of the color of their skin or culture. It doesn't matter to a racist whether I'm an educated African American male treating their mother who recently had a stroke. All that matters is I'm black, while my white counterpart may have cheated through school and doesn't know the patient's anatomy from his own LOL. My point is some patients are completely uncomfortable with my touching them because of my heritage. Others prejudge me (believe me I can tell), but after a brief conversation I usually get them laughing and they're puddy in my hands then
Anyway just wanted to clarify. I see where this thread is headed.
BD
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