This lil stunter was only about an hour or so from my house ( Capt you went thru his area when you were in Lassen / Redding )
I'll see if I can find out more details - K
I'll see if I can find out more details - K
So if your gonna run ...
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thats just the way it is.
Few years back, got stopped here in the town that I live in, for 40 in a 30. Had license, insurance, giving it to the cop, and look in my mirror (in the car). His (very) rookie pardner was standing back by the patrol car with his gun out, in some kind of a quick fire looking mode. I thought to ask the cop that was giving me the ticket, if his buddy had his bullet in his shirt pocket, but held my tongue and went on.
Interesting side note: About 6 months later, the cop that ticketed me, was convicted of several counts of molesting little boys.
Interesting side note: About 6 months later, the cop that ticketed me, was convicted of several counts of molesting little boys.
There's always more to the story. Can't judge a book by the cover, well...accurately anyway.
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Cap I did watch video . Very funny indeed.
I made ref to guns drawn only in ref to the case Kento cited and only did so after seeing the charges .
None of which I believe are or were felonies .
A felony stop absolutely guns drawn but reckless driving I still don't think so .
I don't think every arrest results in guns drawn before hand either as again I think (I say I think) that unless officers are making a felony stop they cannot draw the guns ?
I think we both agree there must be alot more to the story .
But as in other thread I started about the 'beatdown' the news/media was all too quick to point out guy had a long criminal history .
Here we have no mention of that so again being it was Cali they may have overeacted a bit as we sometimes see them do on the tele running around waving their guns screaming 'FaaaaReeeeeeze'
I made ref to guns drawn only in ref to the case Kento cited and only did so after seeing the charges .
None of which I believe are or were felonies .
A felony stop absolutely guns drawn but reckless driving I still don't think so .
I don't think every arrest results in guns drawn before hand either as again I think (I say I think) that unless officers are making a felony stop they cannot draw the guns ?
I think we both agree there must be alot more to the story .
But as in other thread I started about the 'beatdown' the news/media was all too quick to point out guy had a long criminal history .
Here we have no mention of that so again being it was Cali they may have overeacted a bit as we sometimes see them do on the tele running around waving their guns screaming 'FaaaaReeeeeeze'
I believe if the officers saw endangerment to public that they would CALL-OFF the pursuit, because once they call off the pursuit he is only potentially a danger to himself. Should the officers be put in harms-way? NO, and thats why you call off the pursuit. Most officers I know would love for ANY REASON to race those cruisers, and honestly those are the cops I fear, cause they will put your life, thier own life, and public in danger. IMO
As for the drawed weapons, is horse manuer. What possible weapon could he IMMEDIATELY harm those officers ass he stops, dismounts his bike? Afterall, I'm sure he was riding that bike with 2 hands especially at those speeds. IMO
I tell ya what.... How about next time you ride your bike you don't wear a helmet, cause ya know you hardly ever need it... Wearing a helmet is just an over reaction... You would never have a wreck right, what are the odds of that? When you have your crash all planned out then you can wear your helmet and safety gear...
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I tell you what . How about we just agree to disagree on this one .
They did not charge him with any felonies .
Suspicion of reckless driving is laughable .
It ain't even reckless . What that would imply is that nobody actually saw him driving recklessly but instead thought he did. The more i think about it I bet be didn't even know anyone was trying to stop him and was just riding a bit fast then all of the sudden in typical Cali fashion fifty cops with guns drawn come screeching up screaming at him .
The story is so void of juicy details that it seems he didn't do anything wrong at all other than speed which again to be charge with suspicion means nobody even witnessed it !
You were a patrol officer . Did you draw you weapon every time you stopped somebody or arrested them ?
For non felony stops did you draw your weapon ?
I wouldn't think so as again I think (I say I think) that unless it is a felony stop cops are no allowed to draw their guns .
Your comparison of helmet to guns drawn is apples to oranges.
Peace frog
They did not charge him with any felonies .
Suspicion of reckless driving is laughable .
It ain't even reckless . What that would imply is that nobody actually saw him driving recklessly but instead thought he did. The more i think about it I bet be didn't even know anyone was trying to stop him and was just riding a bit fast then all of the sudden in typical Cali fashion fifty cops with guns drawn come screeching up screaming at him .
The story is so void of juicy details that it seems he didn't do anything wrong at all other than speed which again to be charge with suspicion means nobody even witnessed it !
You were a patrol officer . Did you draw you weapon every time you stopped somebody or arrested them ?
For non felony stops did you draw your weapon ?
I wouldn't think so as again I think (I say I think) that unless it is a felony stop cops are no allowed to draw their guns .
Your comparison of helmet to guns drawn is apples to oranges.
Peace frog
If the circumstances began to change absolutely, it doesn't have to be a Felony to pull your weapon out, get that out of your head. And I would say by the time something became a felony with an officer present it would be too late to draw and fire anyway....
Its easy to armchair quarterback when its not your life on the line and when you have never spent a single day in a patrol car you can never understand... Your comment to me is as ridiculas as someone stating that a US soldier should not carry a loaded weapon cause it could go off and hurt somoene.. Its amazing to me how everyone wants to be an expert in how to do someone elses job when they have ZERO experience or time on the street....
You would never try to tell a doctor not to use a stethascope because you have no experience in that area, what qualifies you to think you have the answers about being a cop? Cause you watched miami vice or hawaii 5 O as a kid? The real world of being a cop is compeltely different from the movies as well as what the media shows.....
cap
Its easy to armchair quarterback when its not your life on the line and when you have never spent a single day in a patrol car you can never understand... Your comment to me is as ridiculas as someone stating that a US soldier should not carry a loaded weapon cause it could go off and hurt somoene.. Its amazing to me how everyone wants to be an expert in how to do someone elses job when they have ZERO experience or time on the street....
You would never try to tell a doctor not to use a stethascope because you have no experience in that area, what qualifies you to think you have the answers about being a cop? Cause you watched miami vice or hawaii 5 O as a kid? The real world of being a cop is compeltely different from the movies as well as what the media shows.....
cap
There is nothing routine about any traffic stop, arrest or inquiry to a suspect or witness. Officers who treat those things as routine are more likely to get hurt or worse.
Are you offended or threatened when officer does not walk right up to your window right away after stops you and starts talking to you.
Are you offended when officer stands behind the drivers window with his hand on his weapon while he is talking to you.
Are you offended or angry when he stays by his car and starts issuing commands over his PA like if he just found himself a serial killer.
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A lot of people here seem to know how to do this job and I am kind of glad they aren't doing it. The situation most of the times are not in favor of the officer. An officer has to try an protect himself at all times, expect the unexpected in be prepared for it.
Yeah he just got a busted taillight no big deal
but he could have a gun with a bullet with your name on it.
When approaching a vehicle, a person or any situation which mindset is more likely to get you home to your family. Be nice if we lived in the city of the future like the movie Demolition Man. But thats not the place we live in.
Admins if the video is out of line remove it, didn't really see a category that it fit to be in so I didn't add it. I don't think anyone here who thinks they how it should be done will learn a thing from it. Since they think he shouldn't be getting pulled over anyway for loud music.
If this guy is willing to do this to an officer what do you think he is willing to do you or your family. What do you think he would do if you had some words with him when he cut you off and you weren't just going to sit back and take it with out saying something to him about it. There are more good people than bad people out there let me let you in on a little secret...
They have no way of telling them apart till after it's over
Are you offended or threatened when officer does not walk right up to your window right away after stops you and starts talking to you.
Are you offended when officer stands behind the drivers window with his hand on his weapon while he is talking to you.
Are you offended or angry when he stays by his car and starts issuing commands over his PA like if he just found himself a serial killer.
A lot of people here seem to know how to do this job and I am kind of glad they aren't doing it. The situation most of the times are not in favor of the officer. An officer has to try an protect himself at all times, expect the unexpected in be prepared for it.
Yeah he just got a busted taillight no big deal
but he could have a gun with a bullet with your name on it.
When approaching a vehicle, a person or any situation which mindset is more likely to get you home to your family. Be nice if we lived in the city of the future like the movie Demolition Man. But thats not the place we live in.
Admins if the video is out of line remove it, didn't really see a category that it fit to be in so I didn't add it. I don't think anyone here who thinks they how it should be done will learn a thing from it. Since they think he shouldn't be getting pulled over anyway for loud music.
If this guy is willing to do this to an officer what do you think he is willing to do you or your family. What do you think he would do if you had some words with him when he cut you off and you weren't just going to sit back and take it with out saying something to him about it. There are more good people than bad people out there let me let you in on a little secret...
They have no way of telling them apart till after it's over
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That is freaky Cap. Nobody talk dirty!
Cap you should not assume I've never been in a police car.
You should not assume I've never been on a customs boat .
And you should not assume I've never been around ATF, FBI or Secret Service agents .
Eight yrs of being an instructor here in Florida gained me access and things you don't know .
You only know me from here but you don't really know me or have any idea who I am or what I've done in my forty years of life do you ?
Have I ever personally arrested anyone ? No but I've seen plenty and been present for many .
I've only addressed the one case Kento noted and never said anything about any other incidents.
Yes it's easy to armchair quarterback so let's just agree to disagree ..
You should not assume I've never been on a customs boat .
And you should not assume I've never been around ATF, FBI or Secret Service agents .
Eight yrs of being an instructor here in Florida gained me access and things you don't know .
You only know me from here but you don't really know me or have any idea who I am or what I've done in my forty years of life do you ?
Have I ever personally arrested anyone ? No but I've seen plenty and been present for many .
I've only addressed the one case Kento noted and never said anything about any other incidents.
Yes it's easy to armchair quarterback so let's just agree to disagree ..
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