Rev ... I feel you on that one ... there's no subsitute for the experience a few years in the military can provide for the young ones !!I think every US citizen at the age of 18 (Or after Graduation) should be required to serve 2 years in the military, and while your there your going to get an Associates Deree in (Something)... This way every US citizen would really learn what hard work is, really be ready for College ready to learn, heck maybe learn a little something about being a citizen... Anyway... My rant...