Story time....

[Bumblebee]

On another thought I had while out walking this morning....

Has anyone ever been to a place where you know no other human being has been before?

Years and years ago I was in a base we have called Alert which is on the northern tip of Ellesmere Island....when you stand on the shore and look north the only thing there is the Arctic Circle...

We did a foray into the pack ice with an indigenous guide.....as there are no humans indigenous to this area, our guide was only versed on traversing pack ice.....not the area we were in.

Some of this ice had the size of a home sticking out of the water....like mini-icebergs...

We travelled out for an entire day and while we were having a meal sitting on top of a huge flat chunk of ice, one of our guys mused that we are most likely the only human beings to have ever been on this ice.....it kind of made us all feel kind of small especially as we looked around and saw nothing but pack ice in all directions.....

We made it back a couple days later and came ashore miles from the base....and found an old board on the shore with a square nail in it....which made us all think about how this board got here and the people it was associated to......

As there is zero sound up there when you get away from the ice and in a hollow where the wind doesn't get you......we get so used to all the white noise of our urban lives that this lack of any sound was kind of unnerving. but when you got close to the water and pack ice, it was noisy with the grating of the ice on the shore and the odd crack and bang as ice melted and broke apart....some of these cracks and bangs hurt your ears,,,

 

[Bumblebee]

I managed to find one picture of the ice pack that I had for some reason, a few years ago my laptop full of pictures was dying so I downloaded them onto an external drive, which was lost leaving me with very few older pictures

I couldn't get the photo to rotate......my apologies...

 

[sixpack577]

I managed to find one picture of the ice pack that I had for some reason, a few years ago my laptop full of pictures was dying so I downloaded them onto an external drive, which was lost leaving me with very few older pictures

I couldn't get the photo to rotate......my apologies...

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So were you all training?
Or if it was a mission I won"t bother asking what was out there...obviously people that really don't want to be found or bothered
lol

 

[Bumblebee]

So were you all training?
Or if it was a mission I won"t bother asking what was out there...obviously people that really don't want to be found or bothered
lol

We were training to navigate and maneuver over the ice packs.....

We did a lot of these sorts of exercises....

 

[CBXRider]

I managed to find one picture of the ice pack that I had for some reason, a few years ago my laptop full of pictures was dying so I downloaded them onto an external drive, which was lost leaving me with very few older pictures

I couldn't get the photo to rotate......my apologies...

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Like this? Where did they expect you’d be deployed?

 

[Bumblebee]

Like this? Where did they expect you’d be deployed?



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Thanks, for some reason it wouldn't save my changes to rotate the picture...

In the line of work I was in, we were expected to be deployed anywhere at anytime.....including the high arctic.

 

[sixpack577]

Once the baddies run to where it's cold enough...just use bigger fire power...pass on those kind of temperatures
lmao

 

[Oz22]

Thanks, for some reason it wouldn't save my changes to rotate the picture...

A lot of people still use windows photo viewer, which is next to useless. This little freebee I've been using for years, it can do nearly anything, rotate, resize, change colors, easily change to another file type, lit change a fat bitmap to a jpeg. And best of all, when viewing a folder a simple push of the space bar moves you on to the next pic. There is a learning curve if you want the best from it but it's not steep.

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[Bumblebee]

Once the baddies run to where it's cold enough...just use bigger fire power...pass on those kind of temperatures
lmao

We had people in radar sites and had to train to go in and take out potential bad guys who have taken them over or were in the process......

 

[michael parris heuberger]

The W900 is being retired. Do you have any personal feelings on this? (Frankly, I am neutral.)

Hi. They are just tools

 

[michael parris heuberger]

The W900 is being retired. Do you have any personal feelings on this? (Frankly, I am neutral.)

Hi. They are just tools to me.

 

[Oz22]

A few years ago I was having pains on my left side so my Dr sent me for a chemical stress test which included an MRI to check my circulatory system.

25 years ago I was working in a yard on a hot day and I felt an excruciating pain run slowly down my right arm, I felt weak and sat down, the pain increased and after a few minutes abated. After a while I went back to work, slowly, and finished the job. When I got home I googled up the pain and the most likely cause was a myocardial infarction, a blockage in one of the vessels in the Heart. There was nothing to be done about it so I went on about my life, but didn't push myself as I had before, especially running on hot days. Even now I don't Over exert myself.

I could have gone to a doctor, but what's the point. They'd have probably just put a scare into me and I'd be on heart pills now, and who knows how many other pills as well. It never stops at one pill. So I'm 63 and pretty healthy, a testament to the bodies ability to overcome minor upsets. I've outlived a lot of pill-poppers and intend to stay the course. I don't mind the odd pill, for a specific reason, like when the dentist drilled 9 holes into my jaws and implanted titanium screws, I took a lot of pills that week . But none of those forever pills, I've seen them destroy too many lives, seen too many go to the grave prematurely, too many that can't even walk across a carpark without stopping for a rest.

 

[CBXRider]

…”. But none of those forever pills, I've seen them destroy too many lives, seen too many go to the grave prematurely, too many that can't even walk across a carpark without stopping for a rest.”

That is hard to believe that so many lives were destroyed (that you’ve seen) behind medically prescribed medicine. Don’t you suppose their reasons to be taking meds is what (destroyed) their lives and not their medicine?

 

[ottafish]

…”. But none of those forever pills, I've seen them destroy too many lives, seen too many go to the grave prematurely, too many that can't even walk across a carpark without stopping for a rest.”

That is hard to believe that so many lives were destroyed (that you’ve seen) behind medically prescribed medicine. Don’t you suppose their reasons to be taking meds is what (destroyed) their lives and not their medicine?

Don't you be bringing logic to this table..

 

[CBXRider]

OK story time. Scene, Jenny’s bar Juarez Mexico. Known as a safe truckers hangout. Took a cab from El Paso and paid the driver to return at a certain time. Very bad neighborhood. Federal cops patrolling the street were carrying M16s (it was 1970) . Walked inside Jennys and I’m immediately impressed with all the toy/model semi trucks above the bar. We were wearing our Mayflower company shirts and an ancient old lady (Jenny?) sat on a stool at the end of the bar behind a chrome plated cash register and welcomed us. In the center was a huge round planter with cushions all around. In the corner were several men all wearing suits and all wearing shades even though it was very dark in the bar. Occasionally a man would come in and walk directly to the men and hand over cash. As we sat in a booth a couple working girls came over to chat us up. My brother told the bartender that he was interested in getting some boots and a chess set. A guy came in with two huge suitcases full of boots. Another came in with several chess sets. All in a matter of minutes! I got the impression that we could buy anything in Mexico, right from Jenny’s bar.

Back to the girls. The men’s room was a men’s room. When the door was opened to the ladies room I could see a long hallway with rooms off either side all with saloon type swinging doors. Another ancient woman was seated in the hall to ‘examine’ me and take money. A half and half was $7.50. That’s right, $7.50. Back in the bar we noticed that some of the beer bottles looked as though they’d been washed with the labels on and recapped. Liquor was good though, Jenny wouldn’t want to poison an American trucker. That might not be good for business. Sitting in the booth and simply people watching was a real treat. Guys would come in, girls would chat them up and take them thru the women’s room door. Buying them a drink (earned) them a chit that Jenny kept track of. The girls not otherwise engaged would sit around the big planter waiting for the next guys. It was just like being in an old B movie with armed Federales outside the door, gangsters in the corner, pimps coming in and out, hookers sitting around and heavily made up Jenny sitting behind the chrome cash register trying to look younger than she was.

 

[CBXRider]

Don't you be bringing logic to this table..

It’s a curse I have…

 

[LC4CARL]

On another thought I had while out walking this morning....

Has anyone ever been to a place where you know no other human being has been before?

Years and years ago I was in a base we have called Alert which is on the northern tip of Ellesmere Island....when you stand on the shore and look north the only thing there is the Arctic Circle...

We did a foray into the pack ice with an indigenous guide.....as there are no humans indigenous to this area, our guide was only versed on traversing pack ice.....not the area we were in.

Some of this ice had the size of a home sticking out of the water....like mini-icebergs...

We travelled out for an entire day and while we were having a meal sitting on top of a huge flat chunk of ice, one of our guys mused that we are most likely the only human beings to have ever been on this ice.....it kind of made us all feel kind of small especially as we looked around and saw nothing but pack ice in all directions.....

We made it back a couple days later and came ashore miles from the base....and found an old board on the shore with a square nail in it....which made us all think about how this board got here and the people it was associated to......

As there is zero sound up there when you get away from the ice and in a hollow where the wind doesn't get you......we get so used to all the white noise of our urban lives that this lack of any sound was kind of unnerving. but when you got close to the water and pack ice, it was noisy with the grating of the ice on the shore and the odd crack and bang as ice melted and broke apart....some of these cracks and bangs hurt your ears,,,

I had a taste of that after a hike years ago. Out in the Arizona mountains for a few days. Coming back things seemed "busier."

 

[sixpack577]

…”. But none of those forever pills, I've seen them destroy too many lives, seen too many go to the grave prematurely, too many that can't even walk across a carpark without stopping for a rest.”

That is hard to believe that so many lives were destroyed (that you’ve seen) behind medically prescribed medicine. Don’t you suppose their reasons to be taking meds is what (destroyed) their lives and not their medicine?

I had 4 friends with severe injuries become hooked on oxycontins about 20 years ago.
They were never drug users, and hardly even drank alcohol.
3 had a terrible time getting off of them, over several years, and one is still on cyboxin to this day(the stuff to get you off oxycintin).
Here, up until about 10 years ago, you could go to almost any Dr, tell them your toe hurt...and they wouod perscribe you oxycontin.
It was a big pharma money racket turned epedemic.
So yes, sometimes it IS the Dr's and what they perscribe.
I've grateful to get stitches, broken bones fixed, and have needed surgeories...but they can keep their daily pills for mosf things.

 

[Oz22]

That is hard to believe that so many lives were destroyed (that you’ve seen) behind medically prescribed medicine. Don’t you suppose their reasons to be taking meds is what (destroyed) their lives and not their medicine?

Hard to believe for someone who doesn't question the medical industrial complex I'm sure. Impossible for someone working within it and getting paid. In my working life I dealt with many people, thousands, whom I got to know on a personal basis, whom I saw every fortnight. I'll give you one typical example, a man named Jack, 70 years old. One day I was in his kitchen and on the end of the sink was about 12 bottles of different pills. He was very sick at that point, could barely walk down the stairs. I inquired how often he took all those, "once a day for most". His daughter came up from the Gold coast and brought him down to her doctor, with all the pills in a shoe box. He told me later the doctor had been aghast and commented that many of the meds shouldn't be taken in conjunction with the other meds. He binned them all and prescribed just 2 or 3. This is an old old story and many doctors have spoken out about it. Over-prescription of drugs.

What happens in the process is that combinations of drugs, or even single drugs, cause side-effects that are then diagnosed as a new disease or condition, to which a new drug is prescribed. Look an any pill data sheet and they will list the possible side-effects, in small print. that no one reads. The litany of diseases Jack was supposed to have had was, quite frankly, ridiculous. Old jack came good, for a few months, but his daughter dropped the ball and soon he was back up to 12 or so pills and dead in 6 months. The human body simply can't repair itself or function properly when full of all these so called safe chemicals.

Another client, Irene, went through a slightly different path. Her GP went on holiday and in the interim she began seeing another one at the local surgery. It's worth noting that in Australia anyone on SS has subsidized doctors visits, they are free basically, and many older folk go weekly, it can become a social outlet for them especially if they live alone. Irene's new doctor looked at the 3 meds she was on and claimed that a "new" pill was now out that replaced two of them, so she switched to the new pill. Her health deteriorated dramatically and fast, in 2 weeks she was diagnosed with an acute heart condition and slated for immediate surgery, Open Heart Surgery! She was 75 years old. Thank God her doctor returned before the operation and checked the records, she put Irene back on the two old pills and she was right as rain in a couple of weeks. I saw all this happened before my eyes as I visited her.

I have seen it happen to two friends too, lost my mother to the practice probably. All these people would have died eventually but the over medication just speeded the process up and sent them to the grave with little of no quality of life. Most of the stories now are about opioids and anti-psychotics, people munch them like candy. A decade ago the stories were about other general meds, Osteoporosis meds, that sort of thing. I read all the stories as I watched my two friends and mother pass but I have seen it in so many lives it's just set in concrete now. The medial complex markets diseses, like Osteoporosis. They have doctors warn patients of it, conduct tests, and the results are you need pills. Over time the threshold of bone density is raised to allow for more positive diagnosis, more pills, more profit. It's all well documented.

Of course most people will ignore these warning, and some will actively oppose them, People with limited knowledge and experience. People who can't concieve of an entire industry putting profits ahead of people's health. I see it everywhere though, especially with the industrial food complex and the military industrial complex. We're talking about the 3 largest corporation blocks on the planet. Everyone needs to watch the series "Dope Sick" My dentist pointed me to that but I hardly needed it, I knew the score. Interestingly the dental clinic wouldn't prescribe opiods even for serious implant surgury. Good on them! But when I asked if anyone requested it he told me many many did. I took the simple codene pills for a day and then sucked up the minor pain.

A pill for every ill’: doctors say Australia overprescribing antidepressants to mask toxic social conditions
-ww.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/dec/21/a-pill-for-every-ill-doctors-say-australia-overprescribing-antidepressants-to-mask-toxic-social-conditions

The 'prescribing cascade' putting Australians at risk — and the push to stop it
-ww.sbs.com.au/news/article/the-prescribing-cascade-putting-australians-at-risk-and-the-push-to-stop-it/7aliu53el

 

[Oz22]

I had 4 friends with severe injuries become hooked on oxycontins about 20 years ago.

I have two, that I know of! One suffered horrible neurological side effects from the Astrazeneca vaccine. A month off work, right arm useless and nasty pain. Then the fool got the booster and went through it all again! But worse this time. Good ol doc put him on the heavy stuff which was a real party for him while he lounged around at home, but work was a bit challenging stoned off his dial so he had to withdraw. Easier said then done. Both ol mates go back on it from time to time, it's as bad as heroin for that.

I wonder if this thread will get moved and deleted now?