The Destruction of Los Angeles and Surrounding Areas

[Gen3lover]

Question for the group - how much of this catastrophe is due to gross incompetence by humans, and how much is that we just got "owned" by Mother Nature with conditions that were uncontrollable?

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Historically it hasn’t.

So than tell me why crime is almost non existant in the KSA?
Oh yeah....they chop heads off there.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Question for the group - how much of this catastrophe is due to gross incompetence by humans, and how much is that we just got "owned" by Mother Nature with conditions that were uncontrollable?

Both. Cali cut budgets. Fire Chiefs emails to mayor and higher ups begging for more of everything were recently released. It IS true they spent more time trying to diversify the dept instead of hiring the best candidates.

It is also true they built a ton of homes on tinderbox dry land. So spark and poof Mother Nature said. Might have been started by a power line but still it's just raging on its own.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

So than tell me why crime is almost non existant in the KSA?
Oh yeah....they chop heads off there.

Way back when, the Brits decided that (any) crime was a crime against the Crown and being so was punishable by death. At a public hanging for a pickpocket, several subjects were arrested for picking pockets. Not a deterrent.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Yeah thankfully. Contained around 60 acres or so. Never crossed the river but she was afraid of flying embers as the wind was blowing south.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Both. Cali cut budgets. Fire Chiefs emails to mayor and higher ups begging for more of everything were recently released. It IS true they spent more time trying to diversify the dept instead of hiring the best candidates.

It is also true they built a ton of homes on tinderbox dry land. So spark and poof Mother Nature said. Might have been started by a power line but still it's just raging on its own.

It’s true the Palisades area was a desert decades ago and apparently no fire suppression details were worked into the development. “Cali” as you said, no, it was city and county authorities that weren’t prepared. As for DEI hires, how is it you’re so sure they weren’t (also) qualified?

 

[HayaWakened]

I worked for the USFS as a SoCal firefighter in the 70's (Chilao Crew 4!!). Pay rate was under $3/hr and I still managed to bring home 4-digit checks cuz of all the OT.
Started on a tanker crew (they're called 'engines', now btw), moved to a 'hotshot' crew, starting as the guy carrying a backpack of gas for the chain saws, finally became a 'puller' and then a 'sawyer'. Spent a month on the 'helittack' crew on a Huey (I think a UH-1?) before the season came to an end. Best part of the job was the daily commute up the ACH (So Cal's now legendary moto Highway #2). Wish I'd had a Gen 2 back then but all those laps certainly help nowadays Second best part was being flown around by some amazing Huey pilots.

Apologies if I'm a bit chill about the fires currently raging but honestly, it's become a regular occurrence, year after year. Ashamed to admit I've gotten used to it down here.

 

[TallTom]

Question for the group - how much of this catastrophe is due to gross incompetence by humans, and how much is that we just got "owned" by Mother Nature with conditions that were uncontrollable?

Well you can never be 100% out of danger. Since Ca is for the most part convinced global warming is a real threat, then they should have spent more than normal preparing for it. Since they are blaming these fires on global warming, why they didn't put more water in reservoirs and cut back the underbrush and forest maintenance is not the fault of the weather.

Florida is another example. They could prepare for storms better. And they have increased building codes. But if you build a roof to withstand 160MPH winds, and you get 200MPH winds, will you sustain damage. Most likely yes.

Some people take it upon themselves to build a hurricane proof house. And they seem to be effective.

It is always about $$. Just because it's possible to do better, doesn't mean it's practical to.

 

[michael parris heuberger]

Yeah thankfully. Contained around 60 acres or so. Never crossed the river but she was afraid of flying embers as the wind was blowing south.

Hi. Well that is very very good. I so happy for you and her.

 

[Oz22]

California’s eco-regulators halted a critical wildfire prevention project near Pacific Palisades to protect an endangered shrub - only for that same area to be engulfed in flames during the Palisades Fire, the most destructive blaze in Los Angeles history. In 2019, the LA Department of Water and Power (LADWP) set out to replace aging wooden power poles - some nearly a century old - with fire-resistant steel poles and widen fire-access lanes in the wildfire-prone Topanga State Park. The $2 million project was designed to bolster fire safety after the area was deemed an "elevated fire risk."

"This project will help ensure power reliability and safety, while helping reduce wildfire threats," the LADWP stated at the time, the NY Post reports. But the effort came to an abrupt halt when an amateur botanist hiking through the park noticed that some of the rare Braunton’s milkvetch shrubs - an endangered species with only a few thousand wild specimens - had been damaged during the work. Conservationists raised alarms, accusing the city of working without proper permits, and California’s Coastal Commission ordered the LADWP to stop the project, replant the damaged shrubs, and pay $2 million in fines.

Fast forward to 2024: Nearly 24,000 acres - including much of Topanga Canyon - have gone up in smoke, taking with them not only homes and wildlife but the same shrubs the project was supposed to protect. nypost.com/2025/01/14/us-news/california-bureaucrats-halted-pacific-palisades-fire-safety-project-to-save-endangered-shrub/ courthousenews.com/la-to-pay-1-9-million-for-utility-crew-damage-to-endangered-plants/

Definitely an inside job.

 

[Oz22]

Here's a good one

LA fire chief lesbian killing it, Pride magazine claims
Yes it's ok to call her a Lesbian, Pride magazine does, with great pride too!

“Los Angeles’ first openly LGBTQ+ Fire Chief” Kristin Crowley —recently fired ironically in a diversity-on-diversity hatecrime by her communist Boss of Color™ (BOC), Karen Bass, it might be noted — has really done an outstanding job watching Los Angeles burn down. Literally as Los Angeles erupted in flames of historic proportions, Pride magazine took the cunnilingus of its lesbian fire chief to Level 12 in perhaps the most poorly-timed propaganda piece in history. armageddonprose.substack.com/p/lgbtq-roundup-teenage-dirtbag-sentenced
Via Pride Magazine, January 8

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Here's a good one

LA fire chief lesbian killing it, Pride magazine claims
Yes it's ok to call her a Lesbian, Pride magazine does, with great pride too!

A good one what?

 

[TallTom]

Question for the group - how much of this catastrophe is due to gross incompetence by humans, and how much is that we just got "owned" by Mother Nature with conditions that were uncontrollable?

Here, this might help add some color to the answer.

 

[TallTom]

I worked for the USFS as a SoCal firefighter in the 70's (Chilao Crew 4!!). Pay rate was under $3/hr and I still managed to bring home 4-digit checks cuz of all the OT.
Started on a tanker crew (they're called 'engines', now btw), moved to a 'hotshot' crew, starting as the guy carrying a backpack of gas for the chain saws, finally became a 'puller' and then a 'sawyer'. Spent a month on the 'helittack' crew on a Huey (I think a UH-1?) before the season came to an end. Best part of the job was the daily commute up the ACH (So Cal's now legendary moto Highway #2). Wish I'd had a Gen 2 back then but all those laps certainly help nowadays Second best part was being flown around by some amazing Huey pilots.

Apologies if I'm a bit chill about the fires currently raging but honestly, it's become a regular occurrence, year after year. Ashamed to admit I've gotten used to it down here.

Yep. Every year!

 

[Bumblebee]

Amazing flying skills of the water bombers.....especially when you look at the low heights they are operating at and all the turbulence caused by the fire itself....

This is a montage which I don't think is fully set in LA...but it shows their skills....

 

[sixpack577]

Definitely an inside job.

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Wildfires obviously burn huge areas, and can also be very hit and miss due to floating embers starting smaller fires randomly away from the main fires.
However, after looking at alot of pictures online, it seems very strange how many trees are still standing, many not even burned, as well as cooked cars with untouched interiors, meanwhile every structure directly around them is burnt to the ground, and things that should have sucummed to the heat from the fires alone, without being on fire themselves.

 

[Duro5341]

California for decades has been neglecting forest maintenance. They weren't doing controlled burns because of the carbon release and perceived environmental damages to climate change..................not to mention residents didn't like the "smell".

Well it's a simple concept, you either maintain it yearly with controlled burns and tell residents to deal with it........................Or every 15-20 years the fires run right through town clearing the bush that has accumulated.

Yellowstone National park learned this same lesson in 1988 when 1/3rd of the park was lost to fire.
Today has a very active forest management strategy including numerous controlled burns every year.

Sadly, these woke entitled cidiots can't figure this stuff out, and continue to make the same mistake over and over again - Let them pay the price for it too both emotionally and financially.

Cameron

 

[Bumblebee]

Wildfires obviously burn huge areas, and can also be very hit and miss due to floating embers starting smaller fires randomly away from the main fires.
However, after looking at alot of pictures online, it seems very strange how many trees are still standing, many not even burned, as well as cooked cars with untouched interiors, meanwhile every structure directly around them is burnt to the ground, and things that should have sucummed to the heat from the fires alone, without being on fire themselves.

Crazy things happen during wildfires.....the winds are at hurricane force and they act as blowtorches....

I remember once seeing everything gone except a small group of trees.....all were still green and lush while everything around them was black....

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

California for decades has been neglecting forest maintenance. They weren't doing controlled burns because of the carbon release and perceived environmental damages to climate change..................not to mention residents didn't like the "smell".

Well it's a simple concept, you either maintain it yearly with controlled burns and tell residents to deal with it........................Or every 15-20 years the fires run right through town clearing the bush that has accumulated.

Yellowstone National park learned this same lesson in 1988 when 1/3rd of the park was lost to fire.
Today has a very active forest management strategy including numerous controlled burns every year.

Sadly, these woke entitled cidiots can't figure this stuff out, and continue to make the same mistake over and over again - Let them pay the price for it too both emotionally and financially.

Cameron

Who exactly should be paying the price? Just how many internet firefighters are there?