The issues of the world......

[Bumblebee]

Again, perspective and priority is huge. I lived in Los Angeles until I was 40. Huge disparities in income levels but for the most part, people without are grateful to have a job. They’re human; some do resent, but keeping a job completely outweighs resentment. I’m not saying L.A. and London are the same, but I grew up a local and during the course of my life was a part of many different socio economic levels. In essence, life is what you make it.

I've found that growing up in the '60s and '70s....even '80s was vastly different than growing up today in almost any country, city or region.

Life has changed considerably......I don't even recognize my hometown any more.

 

[Red05]

I've found that growing up in the '60s and '70s....even '80s was vastly different than growing up today in almost any country, city or region.

Life has changed considerably......I don't even recognize my hometown any more.

I imagine some places change more than others, but I visit Southern California as often as I can, and the essence stays the same. Home. I go to the areas I hung around in, not the touristy uppity neighborhoods. Interestingly I've had people tell me how much Los Angeles has changed without asking when I was las there, which is partly why I say it's perspective.
I truly think that to some extent, what we expect or predict colors what we experience.
I know I'm getting weird philosophical; seems to be a symptom of getting older.

 

[Bumblebee]

I imagine some places change more than others, but I visit Southern California as often as I can, and the essence stays the same. Home. I go to the areas I hung around in, not the touristy uppity neighborhoods. Interestingly I've had people tell me how much Los Angeles has changed without asking when I was las there, which is partly why I say it's perspective.
I truly think that to some extent, what we expect or predict colors what we experience.
I know I'm getting weird philosophical; seems to be a symptom of getting older.

Life in many places has been irrevocably changed due to the older generation dying off and younger generations or people with different values and traditions moving in......this has happened for millennia all across the globe.

It's expected but doesn't change the fact that regions are no longer the same as they once were....and not always for the better.....

I've even noted this in our neighborhood, as the older folk move and the younger generation moves in, there has been a discernable change in how the younger folk take care of their property.....grass is no longer cut when it needs to be, bushes are overgrown, dog droppings aren't being picked up, leaves aren't being raked.........we get flyers dropped weekly onto our driveways and there are several homes which have 3-4 weeks worth of flyers still laying in their driveways where the occupants simply drive over them instead of retrieving them.....

I can see this neighborhood being run down in the future when the lack of care for home and property maintenance drops more and more.

And this is happening everywhere.

 

[jellyrug]

Life in many places has been irrevocably changed due to the older generation dying off and younger generations or people with different values and traditions moving in......this has happened for millennia all across the globe.

It's expected but doesn't change the fact that regions are no longer the same as they once were....and not always for the better.....

I've even noted this in our neighborhood, as the older folk move and the younger generation moves in, there has been a discernable change in how the younger folk take care of their property.....grass is no longer cut when it needs to be, bushes are overgrown, dog droppings aren't being picked up, leaves aren't being raked.........we get flyers dropped weekly onto our driveways and there are several homes which have 3-4 weeks worth of flyers still laying in their driveways where the occupants simply drive over them instead of retrieving them.....

I can see this neighborhood being run down in the future when the lack of care for home and property maintenance drops more and more.

And this is happening everywhere.

Why do you think that is, what is the root cause?

Maybe people are too busy, trying to put food on the table, making a living?

 

[jellyrug]

^^^^^
A good movie to watch is American Pastoral.

Makes one realize, at the end of the day not much has changed since before we were teenagers, to today.

 

[Bumblebee]

Why do you think that is, what is the root cause?

Maybe people are too busy, trying to put food on the table, making a living?

^^^^^
A good movie to watch is American Pastoral.

Makes one realize, at the end of the day not much has changed since before we were teenagers, to today.

The generations coming up have more things to keep them occupied, their devices become the importance in their lives it seems....

It has nothing to do with working to put food on the table.....other generations had to do this yet were able manage a work/home balance.

I'm thinking laziness or not being able to multi-task doing manual labor tasks is the route cause.....they can have 5 things going on at the same time in their devices though....
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Not much has changed? I don't know what planet this movie is portraying but it isn't earth....

A lot has changed......and the biggest one is the introduction of electronic devices/video games and the suburban change from agrarian life....

When I was kid, 60% of the kids in my school came from the rural areas, now those rural areas are all subdivisions or industrial complexes.....and the farms have all been sold off to off-shore conglomerations......

The list goes on and on.....we had respect for our elders and worked for what we got, the term "welfare" or "social assistance" was a seldom heard word although there were people who were on this, the numbers were far fewer than today....

Maybe where you grew up not much has changed but it sure did where I grew up........and I'm not alone in saying this either.

 

[jellyrug]

Not much has changed? I don't know what planet this movie is portraying but it isn't earth....

Maybe where you grew up not much has changed but it sure did where I grew up........and I'm not alone in saying this either.

In your scope of coverage, sure there has been tremendous change.
I was referring more to the Movie American Pastoral.

1955-1975 We were involved in the Vietnam war, youth and teenagers had many problematic issues, many mass protests.

2024, Youth and teenagers remain with many problematic issues, we still have mass protests, and we are still involved in wars offshore.

The trees still turn green in April, the politicians still have bi-partisan differences, but life goes on.

Where I grew up, the change has been much more than North America, despite the fact that when Jesus left Africa, he said “don’t do anything until I come back.”

 

[Red05]

Life in many places has been irrevocably changed due to the older generation dying off and younger generations or people with different values and traditions moving in......this has happened for millennia all across the globe.

I've even noted this in our neighborhood, as the older folk move and the younger generation moves in, there has been a discernable change in how the younger folk take care of their property.....grass is no longer cut when it needs to be, bushes are overgrown, dog droppings aren't being picked up, leaves aren't being raked.........we get flyers dropped weekly onto our driveways and there are several homes which have 3-4 weeks worth of flyers still laying in their driveways where the occupants simply drive over them instead of retrieving them.....

I can see this neighborhood being run down in the future when the lack of care for home and property maintenance drops more and more.

And this is happening everywhere.

Yes I’ve seen this here where I live. There are are still very nicely kept neighborhoods nearby, but the street I live on has deteriorated some. There seems to be a whole new mindset with society especially in terms of yard and house upkeep.

 

[Bumblebee]

In your scope of coverage, sure there has been tremendous change.
I was referring more to the Movie American Pastoral.

1955-1975 We were involved in the Vietnam war, youth and teenagers had many problematic issues, many mass protests.

2024, Youth and teenagers remain with many problematic issues, we still have mass protests, and we are still involved in wars offshore.

The trees still turn green in April, the politicians still have bi-partisan differences, but life goes on.

Where I grew up, the change has been much more than North America, despite the fact that when Jesus left Africa, he said “don’t do anything until I come back.”

I was thinking of more of a societal change.......when I was young, Christian churches were full and people went to church, stores were closed on Sundays and there was no hunting allowed. People respected their elders and helped each other, especially the elders, I recall being farmed out by my dad to cut grass or weed gardens of some of the elderly people who lived nearby.

Canada only had a very minor part in Viet Nam other than providing safe haven for all the draft dodgers................Our last major combat involvement was in Korea although we had peacekeepers all over the globe in the "60s, '70s and '80s....some of whom were engaged in combat especially in Cyprus in the '64 and '74 Turkish invasions where they were targeted by Turkish forces.

The issues our teenage youth had in the '50s to '80s were different than those of today where drugs have very much taken the forefront....particularly nasty addictive drugs like fentanyl and opioids not to mention the marijuana of today is far more potent than that of previous decades...

Although it was very hard on society, people of those times could kind of, sort of, weather the great depression....today we are in a heavy recession and people today are not as resilient or able to be prepared to weather a depression if it came to that......society would collapse from one today.

 

[jellyrug]

I was thinking of more of a societal change.......when I was young, Christian churches were full and people went to church, stores were closed on Sundays and there was no hunting allowed. People respected their elders and helped each other, especially the elders, I recall being farmed out by my dad to cut grass or weed gardens of some of the elderly people who lived nearby.

Canada only had a very minor part in Viet Nam other than providing safe haven for all the draft dodgers................Our last major combat involvement was in Korea although we had peacekeepers all over the globe in the "60s, '70s and '80s....some of whom were engaged in combat especially in Cyprus in the '64 and '74 Turkish invasions where they were targeted by Turkish forces.

The issues our teenage youth had in the '50s to '80s were different than those of today where drugs have very much taken the forefront....particularly nasty addictive drugs like fentanyl and opioids not to mention the marijuana of today is far more potent than that of previous decades...

Although it was very hard on society, people of those times could kind of, sort of, weather the great depression....today we are in a heavy recession and people today are not as resilient or able to be prepared to weather a depression if it came to that......society would collapse from one today.

I believe it depends which part of the barrel you draw from.

I retired from a fortune 10 company not too long ago. We employed fresh 4 year under graduates from college with careful selection and a training program where they start from the production floor, exposed to every part of the process. Later into supervision and much later into management.

I was a coach, mainly technical, Mechanical, Electrical, Chemical Engineering and Food Science.

I can honestly say I have worked with the finest of young people and almost all of them ended up as very successful individuals.

Generation gaps have been around for centuries.

Generation gap - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Bumblebee]

I believe it depends which part of the barrel you draw from.

I retired from a fortune 10 company not too long ago. We employed fresh 4 year under graduates from college with careful selection and a training program where they start from the production floor, exposed to every part of the process. Later into supervision and much later into management.

I was a coach, mainly technical, Mechanical, Electrical, Chemical Engineering and Food Science.

I can honestly say I have worked with the finest of young people and almost all of them ended up as very successful individuals.

Generation gaps have been around for centuries.

Generation gap - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Now go see where they live and what that looks like...

I know some very smart young people who have an issue with house keeping and yard work.....

Work is work, living is living, they can be two totally separate things.

I personally don't have a lot of faith in the younger generations as a whole, are there shining stars......sure.....

 

[michael parris heuberger]

Now go see where they live and what that looks like...

I know some very smart young people who have an issue with house keeping and yard work.....

Work is work, living is living, they can be two totally separate things.

I personally don't have a lot of faith in the younger generations as a whole, are there shining stars......sure.....

Hi. What do you all think about the pro hamas [No H for them anymore just h] protests in the USA? For or aginst.

 

[Bumblebee]

Hi. What do you all think about the pro hamas [No H for them anymore just h] protests in the USA? For or aginst.

Obviously firmly against....

This is like having pro ISIS or Taliban protests......hard to believe these protests are being allowed...

Deportation needs to start happening and any person attending universities and protesting should be immediately expelled.

 

[Red05]

Hi. What do you all think about the pro hamas [No H for them anymore just h] protests in the USA? For or aginst.

Obviously firmly against....

This is like having pro ISIS or Taliban protests......hard to believe these protests are being allowed...

Deportation needs to start happening and any person attending universities and protesting should be immediately expelled.

The college protests are decidedly not pro Hamas. They are anti the situation in Gaza with most of the Palestinian population starving to death. As has become common, a less than ethical element infiltrates the commotion and makes the protesting side look bad with signs like 'kill the Jews' and so forth. The White House is concerned with the situation in Gaza, as they should be.

 

[Bumblebee]

The college protests are decidedly not pro Hamas. They are anti the situation in Gaza with most of the Palestinian population starving to death. As has become common, a less than ethical element infiltrates the commotion and makes the protesting side look bad with signs like 'kill the Jews' and so forth. The White House is concerned with the situation in Gaza, as they should be.

Where's this concern for the hundreds of thousands of Sudanese people who are starving to death and being raped and killed after the coup?

No protests set up for them.....

I personally believe these pro-Palestine protests are an easy way to indulge in anti-sematic behavior under the veil of concern for the well being of the Palestinian people, the same people that voted in Hamas and would again even though Hamas has hung them out to dry.....

Hamas has had their chance to save the Palestinian people by surrendering and releasing their kidnapped victims....

In many other cultures, the oppressed arise and fight their oppressors-in this case Hamas, interesting how this hasn't occurred.

 

[Red05]

I personally believe these pro-Palestine protests are an easy way to indulge in anti-sematic behavior under the veil of concern for the well being of the Palestinian people, the same people that voted in Hamas and would again even though Hamas has hung them out to dry.....

A reasonable belief. My point was that the protesting students here in the U.S. don’t support Hamas’ terrorist ways as MPH phrased it.

 

[Bumblebee]

A reasonable belief. My point was that the protesting students don’t support Hamas’ terrorist ways as MPH phrased it.

I personally think the average protester has no clue of what they are protesting......

Not long ago I watched several videos from various sources asking random protesters what they were protesting and many of them only stammered as they didn't know any facts........

I believe many of them feel they want to be part of some sort of movement or cause in order to prove to themselves how righteousness they are...

There are core protesters who are educated in what is going on and are pro-Hamas.....these are the people I say need to be deported immediately......

 

[michael parris heuberger]

I personally think the average protester has no clue of what they are protesting......

Not long ago I watched several videos from various sources asking random protesters what they were protesting and many of them only stammered as they didn't know any facts........

I believe many of them feel they want to be part of some sort of movement or cause in order to prove to themselves how righteousness they are...

There are core protesters who are educated in what is going on and are pro-Hamas.....these are the people I say need to be deported immediately......

Hi. I am sure that not all are full pro hamas. I did see a vid that they were saying that they were hamas. I do not want to see inocent people did but in war they to and it happens all the time. How many kills do think a door gunner had in Nam a year? And how many were inocent? How do you think it makes me feel every day. Only ones who were in action knows.Why do you think that I do meals on wheels every day. I try to save lives and not take anymore.

 

[michael parris heuberger]

Hi. I am sure that not all are full pro hamas. I did see a vid that they were saying that they were hamas. I do not want to see inocent people did but in war they to and it happens all the time. How many kills do think a door gunner had in Nam a year? And how many were inocent? How do you think it makes me feel every day. Only ones who were in action knows.Why do you think that I do meals on wheels every day. I try to save lives and not take anymore.

Hi. Bee you know it never leaves you mind. My shrink told me to talk about it. But it is very very hard. I did move in to a tent deep in the wood for a few years. I did not want to see or meet people and I kept it to as few as posible.

 

[Bumblebee]

Hi. Bee you know it never leaves you mind. My shrink told me to talk about it. But it is very very hard. I did move in to a tent deep in the wood for a few years. I did not want to see or meet people and I kept it to as few as posible.

I went through a few dark times myself but as a career soldier, I generally sucked it up while I was in uniform.....it was my wife that pointed out my symptoms and asked me to seek out help.......and I did.....5 years of therapy did wonders for me....

I find it easier to talk about things now and in doing so, have cleared out a lot of cobwebs....

In most cases, people in our sort of situation resort to alcohol, drugs or other vices to cope....some don't and take their own lives unfortunately....lots of your Viet Nam vet peers resorted to isolation like you did.....your country did little to help you integrate back into society and for some stupid reason, were shocked when many of you didn't......you had no welcome home parades or smiling faces greeting you upon your return.......many missions of which I deployed were the same.....just another return home with very little fanfare and honestly I came and went so often, my family got used to it and it became mundane. I found I never had any closure and relived all those missions over and over in my mind when I had quiet time.

I have never smoked, drank alcohol or used any drugs...I am the odd-ball......I did most everything else-raced motorcycles, was a volunteer fire fighter, taught motorcycle courses, coached my son's hockey team all the while being on constant call out to deploy at a moment's notice and often times did so.....it got very wearing after a while and I pretty much gave up everything other than soldiering. There was a time that I was too busy to ride my fleet of motorcycles...

Now that I'm retired, a lifetime of living on the edge has caught up and arthritis, Plantar Fasciitis and IBS has caught me limiting my activities and desire to travel.

Keeping busy is the key but not too busy that you can't enjoy life.....