stangman327
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But it’s so dang smugly!!!
This bike is how the Gen 3 should’ve came! (Tech wise)
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stangman327
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The technology this bike has is “off the chain” as they say!
I appreciate the fact that Kawasaki made a bike for riders! 99% of people ride on the street and I think they did a fantastic job implementing the latest technology into a motorcycle that I’m sure is a thrill to ride.
I would’ve easily paid 5k more for a Busa equipped like this.
This bike would be a hard sell to me because it’s so dang SMUGLY…that’s extra ugly for those who don’t know
I appreciate the fact that Kawasaki made a bike for riders! 99% of people ride on the street and I think they did a fantastic job implementing the latest technology into a motorcycle that I’m sure is a thrill to ride.
I would’ve easily paid 5k more for a Busa equipped like this.
This bike would be a hard sell to me because it’s so dang SMUGLY…that’s extra ugly for those who don’t know
CBXRider
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At the speeds it’s capable of, heavy might be a benefit. I stopped listening @ the mention of it costing $28,000.
There are few members here that have had those, and all traded them for Gen3's
Seems that heavy and top heavy was a regular complaint, as well as tuned very conservatively too.
I like it, but wouldn't spend $30k on it either.
The only tech that I would want is cruise control, the rest of the bike unlocked, with no nannies...but then there's no fanciness for selling points...and then it's just a raw Z1 with a supercharger...which appeals to an even smaller group of riders...that I find myself in.
I still havn't come to terms with $20k new motorcycles...so $30k is way too much for me, lol
Seems that heavy and top heavy was a regular complaint, as well as tuned very conservatively too.
I like it, but wouldn't spend $30k on it either.
The only tech that I would want is cruise control, the rest of the bike unlocked, with no nannies...but then there's no fanciness for selling points...and then it's just a raw Z1 with a supercharger...which appeals to an even smaller group of riders...that I find myself in.
I still havn't come to terms with $20k new motorcycles...so $30k is way too much for me, lol
phalse
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honestly i think our gen3 is a pretty good value proposition, considering. especially now that theyre marked down a few grand nation wide, i got mine out the door for 19 and with positive trade equity i ran off with a loan on my bike for like 13. no complaints. meanwhile FI is far better implemented in the form of a turbo. bottom line we've got 200 reasons to ride this bike and more or less none to get that thing posted above, ESPECIALLY at that price point cuz then, you honestly may as well just cut the poop and get a nice ducati or something.
CBXRider
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The website did. There are built in language ‘safeguards’ in place.
Tony Nitrous
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I had one for 3 years.
It’s a noisey harsh motor, mine had 4 recalls but I think there have been more.
None of the servicing or recalls could be done at my local store, it had to go way East to a “H2 Tech”. My local store couldn’t touch it as they weren’t H2 trained.
Stock they are no stronger than a Gen-3, but they are very easily derestricted. 2 mates had theirs derestricted and had engine failure, there was a 3rd in the shop at the same time. Another crashed due to wheel bearings, another of the several recalls.
Heaps of folk got them derestricted and one of the recalls was for an ECU fix that flashed the bikes back to stock and removed the tunes.
Mine chucked out crazy heat in an Aussie summer.
A brand new Gen-3 and a 3 year old H2 SX SE have quite similar value and performance. When I did the change over my insurance sent me a cheque back for how much lower risk they considered the Busa to be.
Crap to work on, go try removing the ECU !
So glad to be back on a Gen-3.
The only thing I slightly miss are the fractionally higher bars, the factory centre stand like my Gen-1, and the luggage that uses the ignition key and doesn’t need a mounting rack.
The Gen-3 is a so much nicer bike to live with and one I have a lot more faith in.
If the Gen-3 had been anything like the H2 SX SE I wouldn’t be on one now.
Funny, of the 4 or 5 of us locally that bought one, none of us has one now.
A very overrated bike, living of the glory of the H2 / H2R.
One huge benefit of the Gen-3 is it’s NOT a new design, is a well known proven package they tweaked and added to.
It’s a noisey harsh motor, mine had 4 recalls but I think there have been more.
None of the servicing or recalls could be done at my local store, it had to go way East to a “H2 Tech”. My local store couldn’t touch it as they weren’t H2 trained.
Stock they are no stronger than a Gen-3, but they are very easily derestricted. 2 mates had theirs derestricted and had engine failure, there was a 3rd in the shop at the same time. Another crashed due to wheel bearings, another of the several recalls.
Heaps of folk got them derestricted and one of the recalls was for an ECU fix that flashed the bikes back to stock and removed the tunes.
Mine chucked out crazy heat in an Aussie summer.
A brand new Gen-3 and a 3 year old H2 SX SE have quite similar value and performance. When I did the change over my insurance sent me a cheque back for how much lower risk they considered the Busa to be.
Crap to work on, go try removing the ECU !
So glad to be back on a Gen-3.
The only thing I slightly miss are the fractionally higher bars, the factory centre stand like my Gen-1, and the luggage that uses the ignition key and doesn’t need a mounting rack.
The Gen-3 is a so much nicer bike to live with and one I have a lot more faith in.
If the Gen-3 had been anything like the H2 SX SE I wouldn’t be on one now.
Funny, of the 4 or 5 of us locally that bought one, none of us has one now.
A very overrated bike, living of the glory of the H2 / H2R.
One huge benefit of the Gen-3 is it’s NOT a new design, is a well known proven package they tweaked and added to.
dcnblues
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Tony Nitrous
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The useable tech difference really isn’t that big a deal.
I found the cornering lights pretty useless, the shift lights had less options, the quick shifter was pretty poor, nothing was really stand out great.
If I could rob any of the tech then there are two features I’d have….
# I ride several bikes and wear glasses, having the speed as a large digital display suited me. On my Gen-3 I often find I’m double checking where the needle is pointing at little numbers on the dial. My Toyota has old Skool dials but a tap of the buttons brings up a large TFT speed display. The SX has a nice large digital display.
# On my cars and on the later H2 SX there’s active cruise control, I’ve got very used to it and it works fine. If traffic slows a little or go’s into a lower speed zone you just keep the same distance and slow accordingly, you also have the option to set a small, medium or large gap. The Gen-3 system is a little dated in this area.
Neither of these is a deal breaker, I’m happy to live without either of them, but they are just things the Gen-3 could have had (like a Hill Hold that was more subtle and not so crude).
Where I am the H2 is noticeably more expensive, I’d happily pay that for a noticeably better bike, but in my opinion it isn’t. Price them exactly the same and I’d still take the Busa.
Amongst non-owners and riders, the H2 SX got way more praise and attention. The general option was that they saw it as being another H2 Carbon / H2R, and that they’d read the Gen-3 was a less powerful slower Gen-2. Living with both tells a very different story.
I found the cornering lights pretty useless, the shift lights had less options, the quick shifter was pretty poor, nothing was really stand out great.
If I could rob any of the tech then there are two features I’d have….
# I ride several bikes and wear glasses, having the speed as a large digital display suited me. On my Gen-3 I often find I’m double checking where the needle is pointing at little numbers on the dial. My Toyota has old Skool dials but a tap of the buttons brings up a large TFT speed display. The SX has a nice large digital display.
# On my cars and on the later H2 SX there’s active cruise control, I’ve got very used to it and it works fine. If traffic slows a little or go’s into a lower speed zone you just keep the same distance and slow accordingly, you also have the option to set a small, medium or large gap. The Gen-3 system is a little dated in this area.
Neither of these is a deal breaker, I’m happy to live without either of them, but they are just things the Gen-3 could have had (like a Hill Hold that was more subtle and not so crude).
Where I am the H2 is noticeably more expensive, I’d happily pay that for a noticeably better bike, but in my opinion it isn’t. Price them exactly the same and I’d still take the Busa.
Amongst non-owners and riders, the H2 SX got way more praise and attention. The general option was that they saw it as being another H2 Carbon / H2R, and that they’d read the Gen-3 was a less powerful slower Gen-2. Living with both tells a very different story.
dcnblues
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Here's an interesting perspective. I think he's talking about rotational inertia / gyroscopic precession, but I've never heard anyone make this observation. It would be really interesting if he was right...
Cruising180
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Makes sense. Kind of like a BMW Boxer engine when you rev it at a stoplight.
Bumblebee
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My brother can sit at a light and not put his feet down by slightly blipping the throttle....
Cruising180
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I used to work at Hap's Cycle Sales, a BMW Honda Triumph dealer I've seen life long BMW riders do some very interesting things on the boxer engined bikes. Pro tip, never enter into a slow race against an old man on a boxer BWM
Bumblebee
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100% agreed.....I've seen my brother do crazy things on his Beemer.....
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