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i was thinking of trying a flip up helmet .

who makes a good one and why is it good ?

how are they as far as wind noise ?

do you think they are as safe as a fixed full helmet ?


thanks in advance
 
I am chopping my HJC Symax in 1/2 tomorrow if that answers your question. I had a little off road adventure a few weeks ago and landed on my head. When I stood up the lid was up. I now have a Shoei RF-1000 TC2 ( Nerve ) that feels MUCH better! As far as wind noise goes it was as quiet as most other helmets that fit properly. I liked the flip up feature at stop lights during the summer and on group rides. It's a handy feature but I know I can't trust it to stay shut.
 
I've been using a nolan flipup for the last two years and love it. I've never had it pop open on me,but I've never gone hard with it either.As for wind noise I could not really tell I wear ear plugs when I ride. I've always felt safe with it. Hopes this helps.
 
hmm.. my HJC got a few scratches on it when I totalled the bike..... if it had been a flip-up, dunno.
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The NOLAN flip up is not snell approved, only DOT. Snell has the higher standard, and they have had ample opportunity to pass or fail the Nolan Flip up, and so far it is still not snell approved.

I learned in the MSF course to always choose snell and Dot over just dot, - many harley brain buckets are dot approved...but could never pass snell.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the nolan flip up would fail miserably in that it would flip up during a skid or contact, and leave the face susceptible to roadrash.
 
i sometimes use my agv targa on hot days , very comfy but a lot noiser. also a dealer told me that the flip parts are the weak link if you crash . i only use it for city riding and definitely not for fast runs---
 
..by flip-up, are you refering to a modular full face helmet??? If you are... well I have one of those (HJC) It looks pretty good... and the comfort is good!! But the wind protection is not something I was happy with... It gets too noisy once you cross about 70-80 MPH. Im not too sure about the protection, but HJC is a reputed brand... and a couple of members on this board have vouched good that the HJC does what Its supposed to do in a crash.

I use a Shoei X-11 ... pretty happy with it. Its not a modular... but of all the helmets I have seen this has been the best. Good fit, good visibality, good nose protection... sufficient ventilation. Would stronly suggest you go for one of those... ie if your not too keen on the modual one
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I learned in the MSF course to always choose snell and Dot over just dot, - many harley brain buckets are dot approved...but could never pass snell.
Hmmm...a few years back when I took the MSF course I seem to recall them saying to make sure they're DOT approved, and that Snell approval wasn't to be considered. Meaning...just Snell, no way, DOT and Snell together was acceptable, but above all it's the DOT sticker is what you're to look for.

Here's an interesting read...
http://forums.sportbikes.net/forums/showthread.php?t=277746



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Snell is the tougher standard....anything that passes Snell will pass DOT
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DOT is the minimum standard to be legal, not the safest  
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I've got a Roof Boxer - Great helmet, but I've never been down the road with it! Check out the Roof range of helmets here:

http://www.t-child.com/

I believe that they are now approved for US use (if not, they are in the process of approval). They get a top safety rating in the UK. I'm in Australia - got it while on holiday.
 
The NOLAN flip up is not snell approved, only DOT.  Snell has the higher standard, and they have had ample opportunity to pass or fail the Nolan Flip up, and so far it is still not snell approved.

I learned in the MSF course to always choose snell and Dot over just dot, - many harley brain buckets are dot approved...but could never pass snell.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the nolan flip up would fail miserably in that it would flip up during a skid or contact, and leave the face susceptible to roadrash.
Did you see the helmet story in the latest "MOTOR CYCLIST" June 2005 issue. Really beats up Snell. Also most of the Harley Brain buckets have a DOT sticker (purchased for an extra buck when you buy the helmet)-- No approval.
 
Isn't there a post on here about the results of someone road testing a flip-up? I read it somewhere and the guy really had his face screwed up from the hinge assembly slamming his eye and cheek area.
 
I have a Caberg modular helmet. This helmet is imported from Italy and has DOT and European safety certifications.

Before buying a modular I did quite a lot of research and pretty much narrowed it down to the Caberg or the Schuberth. The Schuberth is the helmet sold primarily by BMW dealers. Both helmets have a very secure locking mechanism, that APPEARS to be much stouter than the other ones out there. Just for info, I would not even consider an HJC because of their locking mechanism.

As to how safe a modular would be in a crash is arguable. While it is obvious that a solid full face would remain intact up to a higher degree of impact over a modular, after looking at the locking mechanism of the Caberg, It is my opinion that the force needed to rip it open would probably be greater than the person would be able to survive with any type of helmet. I am by no means an expert on any type of helmet though.

There are a lot of people who will use a modular for what they deem lower risk rides, such as touring or commuting, taking advantage of the convenience these helmets offer, then switch to a traditional full-face for higher risk activities such as the track or strip. That is probably not a bad way to go.

One other nice thing about the Caberg and the Schuberth is the built in visor that both have, it eliminates the need for sunglasses when riding, yet retracts into the helmet.
 
The NOLAN flip up is not snell approved, only DOT.  Snell has the higher standard, and they have had ample opportunity to pass or fail the Nolan Flip up, and so far it is still not snell approved.

I learned in the MSF course to always choose snell and Dot over just dot, - many harley brain buckets are dot approved...but could never pass snell.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the nolan flip up would fail miserably in that it would flip up during a skid or contact, and leave the face susceptible to roadrash.
It is true that Snell is the tougher U.S. cert to obtain. There are a couple European certifications which are comparable to Snell though.
 
Shuberth S1 or S2 are very nice helmets, the S1 has been touted as the quitetest helmet made and ita a flip up! I have a Shoei Flip up, its comfortable but very noisey!
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