Thoughts on turning as a sport touring rider

[Tufbusa]

I'm betting 90% of Team Gixxer would disagree with you. And don't you own a Concours?

You are grouping the skilled track guys who have taken the time to elevate their skills beyond public roads who happen to have a sport touring bike in the garage with the sport touring community in general.

And I'll bet you that 100% of the team gixxer crew will tell you they aren't even close to hanging out with the fast crowd but they are far advanced over the street guys. I would also bet you that any one of the team gixxer members would by choice ride slower than you if you invited them on a street ride. Not because they are incapable, it's because they are in an uncontrolled environment and they are wise!

 

[Tufbusa]

Ok Tuff, we can agree to disagree. I didn't come back here to get into silly arguments like this one. Hay look at this picture I found!

Do you really think if Larenzo was out on a ST ride with you and your crew he would actually fall down trying to keep up? You are either playing with me or you lost focus of the OP.

 

[skydivr]

I dunno about that Tuf, I feel pretty stupid on the street sometimes - as you well know, gravel is kryptonite to me

 

[skydivr]

You know, I rode a bike for 30+ years before I found the track - and also found I didn't know SQUAT about how to ride a motorcycle or what it can do...just an observation. I am very grateful to Tuf for providing the encouragement to try it.

 

[fallenarch]

OK I'm leaving the org again! If Skydiver is going to agree with me then what's the point of being here? I don't get why talking about the techniques of street riding gets track guys (Tuff) so defensive? There is a method to the madness of riding on any terrain. MotoGP guys practice on the dirt. Talking about one type of riding is not a putdown of another type. I have actually had the Busa on the track now and it was fun even for a try the track event. I'm not against the doing the track in any way.

 

[fallenarch]

I prefer to take a late apex as opposed to a classic racing line.
Road Science Cornering Control Part 2 by David Hough

I also like to trail brake.
Trail Braking: On the track to win, on the street to survive


Just some stuff to think about.

cheers
ken

Good stuff. I wrote my post with some specific beginners in mind. I had just taken a few of them out on my favorite road and they were really not at all in control. So I didn't complicate it with trail braking or squaring off the corner.

 

[skydivr]

OK I'm leaving the org again! If Skydiver is going to agree with me then what's the point of being here?

I'm just waiting to ask how you are liking Obamacare now...

Tuf is trying to make a point (as he always is), that some real instruction and some time on the track to learn more of your bikes limits will most likely help SAVE A LIFE...

 

[kml]

...and they were really not at all in control.

That's why I ride alone 99% of the time.

If i'm gonna pick up squids I'd rather get them from the fish market than outta the ditch.



cheers
ken

 

[fallenarch]

Very True.

 

[sixpack577]

Ok Tuff, we can agree to disagree. I didn't come back here to get into silly arguments like this one. Hay look at this picture I found!

He's just draggin an elbow and hanging his leg out

 

[BusaWhipped]

The more track time I do, the slower I ride on the street. I also ride much different lines on the street that on the track. Getting close to the center line when I can't see all the way around the corner isn't something I want to be doing.

 

[Dookoo]

Great write up. Thanks!

 

[groran1000]

At the gym yesterday and I guy comes up to me hey man I got a yama 600 and then he says hey isn't that bike a hayabusa, a sport touring model. I say naw man that's as sport as you get. Hmm, he may be calling us busa boys, sport touring. Ya think the gixxer boys call us that?

 

[Adam G]

Well written post. Makes me feel better about how I ride. I ride with some crazy fast riders. One rides a VFR and one a ZX-14. I have a heck of time keeping up with either of them. I have found that I like to push my limits of comfort because it gets my adrenaline flowing. But I also find that I tend to be pretty conservative compared to the guys I ride with. Now mind you, these guys are in their 60's and have years and years of track racing experience so my guess is they are well within their comfort level. It would be easy to just give it all the time and stay at the edge of my comfort zone and try and keep up, but this thread confirms to me that hanging back and riding well within my limits is the safe thing to do.

I do find that with each ride I am more comfortable. When I first got my Busa 60mph in a 45mph curve was all I was comfortable with. After several thousand miles 70mph was very comfortable. Now I find that I can do 80 and be comfortable, but prefer to take them at 70mph and feel safe.

 

[GsxrBots]

At the gym yesterday and I guy comes up to me hey man I got a yama 600 and then he says hey isn't that bike a hayabusa, a sport touring model. I say naw man that's as sport as you get. Hmm, he may be calling us busa boys, sport touring. Ya think the gixxer boys call us that?

I call it that!





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[fallenarch]

Gbot's busa: Hey Gbot, do these bags make my arse look big?
Gbot: No dear, your arse is beautiful.........

 

[BusaBret]

Gbot's busa: Hey Gbot, do these bags make Vabs' arse look big?
Gbot: No dear, your arse is beautiful.........

Fixed that fer ya

On topic......going at street riding with a "sport tour" attitude hurts:stupid: ask me how I know.

 

[fallenarch]

I am innocent. I did not say that nor was I thinking it! On the other hand I already got the panties.......

 

[FlatlandBusa]

Fixed that fer ya

On topic......going at street riding with a "sport tour" attitude hurts:stupid: ask me how I know.

 

[Flicka]

At the gym yesterday and I guy comes up to me hey man I got a yama 600 and then he says hey isn't that bike a hayabusa, a sport touring model. I say naw man that's as sport as you get. Hmm, he may be calling us busa boys, sport touring. Ya think the gixxer boys call us that?

Sport touring? A Busa? Yeah, that's a fair assessment.



And don't tell anybody, but her nearest competitor is also pretty darn good at it...