Tickets??? Give this LEO some advice....

[STUNNAH]

Damn...Thrasher...Not only do you like big animals you write big post...Your not ranting just giving your opinion and that's cool as hell...Anyway you make some good points...

I don't mask anything I tell it like it is...

If a person hits me I hit them harder...Only the force necessary then it stops...If my strike causes them to be treated in E.R. then so be it...

You also mentioned an officer being killed...Just suffered that the most tragic event of my life...One minute he's standing the next he's dead...

Most things that are done by LEO's are misunderstood by the citizens that view...Sometimes we have to get off our lazy a$$ and offer an explanation...Sometimes...

I wish this was a perfect world but hell it will never be...There are thugs stealing bikes and shat worst than that...I look at it like this...We all had a choice and could have been some really bad members of society but we choose to be different and do the right things in life...Think about this how hard do you think it is for these guys to lay in bed commit a crime get paid and cycle all over again...Now how hard is it to work 40 plus hours a week love your family and raise your kids the right way...

By the way did you see my comment about you in the animal rescue thread...  

Sorry gotten nearly off topic here...

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[thrasherfox]

Damn...Thrasher...Not only do you like big animals you write big post...Your not ranting just giving your opinion and that's cool as hell...Anyway you make some good points...

I don't mask anything I tell it like it is...

If a person hits me I hit them harder...Only the force necessary then it stops...If my strike causes them to be treated in E.R. then so be it...

You also mentioned an officer being killed...Just suffered that the most tragic event of my life...One minute he's standing the next he's dead...

Most things that are done by LEO's are misunderstood by the citizens that view...Sometimes we have to get off our lazy a$$ and offer an explanation...Sometimes...

I wish this was a perfect world but hell it will never be...There are thugs stealing bikes and shat worst than that...I look at it like this...We all had a choice and could have been some really bad members of society but we choose to be different and do the right things in life...Think about this how hard do you think it is for these guys to lay in bed commit a crime get paid and cycle all over again...Now how hard is it to work 40 plus hours a week love your family and raise your kids the right way...

By the way did you see my comment about you in the animal rescue thread...  

Sorry gotten nearly off topic here...  

No I didn't, I will look for it...

Yeah, sometimes I don't agree with some police officers, but for the most part I think I have a pretty good understanding..

Most of the people I hang with or associate with either work for NCIS, CHP, SO, Local enforcement, corrections or the DA's office. So I hear the B'S from people I know trust and respect, I know the crap they have to deal with, and sometimes I get pissed that their hands are often tied, and the fricken media makes good guys look like bad guys sometimes, and the public whine about crap they don't understand.

Ok, going to look for the animal rescue thread to see what stuff you flung at me lol



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[Aughtsix]

At evaluation time - the 'ol Job Performance Review - the numbers generated by an individual officer will be evaluated as compared to an average - be it agency, state, nationwide, what have you.  If he/she falls below this average sub-par marks will be received and the officer will be told to step up to the plate.  

Call it what you may, or don't call it anything at all, but the guy getting pinched calls it a quota.

Steve

That's more than likely because the guy who got pinched is ignorant of the law and ignorance is not a defense...

But people must always displace the fault so they tend to blame it on the numbers...I can invision a statement that a person that just received a ticket might tell another..."Man I just got a ticket from the M-----F------ police, I was doing 75 in a 30, that S---O-A-B---- must have needed one more to get his quota"...Bullshit...

Most proactive work conducted by any officer is to prevent/solve crime, accidents and/or injury to citizens...  

A nonsequitur.

Irrespective the reason the person was pinched, or the ignorance or intention of the person pinched, a system of justification by statistics, driven by administrators, exists.  Again, this has absolutely nothing to do with guilt or innocence - that is for the courts to decide.

You are right though - our society breeds contempt for personal responsibility.  Adding this to the modern theory of Moral Relativism we've arrived at a point at which any excuse is 'right' and the person opposed to your position is 'wrong'.  Lovely system ours.  

Steve

 

[STUNNAH]

You just can't blame everything on the system...Yeah the system is freaked up but most of the problems of our society start at the bottom and gain a mushroom effect...Then inevitablely the movers and shakers are tasked with problem solving to correct the same...

This can be related to citations, murders or whatever...

 

[MacGyver]

Hey fellas (and ladies). I kinda wanted to stop beating this dead horse....but I wanted to drop in and thank you all for putting your thoughts here. I printed this thread out, and presented it to our traffic team for them to review. Of course they were entertained to read it, but hearing different views about common things can always be refreshing. I hope they took something out of it.

Thrasher - are you bay area bro? I swear I've seen a pumpkin busa runnin up HWY 9 and 84.

 

[thrasherfox]

MacGyver -

Nope not me, but if you see a pumpkin feel free to pull it over lol

Actually I know of two pumpkis in that area, CorrodedAlien and (SaneMan I believe.)

We all took a ride to Tahoooooo for CorrodedAlien's birthday. 3 Pumpkins and a Blue and Silver Busa I believe

I can be caught… uhhh err I mean I am in the Central California area, in the Valley.. uh Central Valley to be exact

If you are ever in the area and want to ride let me know…

Ron

 

[KoolKat]

Samething trasher said....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....

On the real though...he hit right on the nose and no one should be offended unless they just can't handle the cold hard nacked truth....

I HATE getting a ticket...but the freakin' truth about it, regardless of quotas, if we (those of us who chooose to) get caught speeding it's no one's fault but our own.

ON THE FLIP SIDE....(i'm a double edge sword baby hehehehe

): It would be nice if cops protected us riders a bit more, when jack*sses tailgate, causing us to want to get the hell out of their way for example...

None of us are perfect right? Never forget who wrote these laws...we did...if we don't like certain things we should then try our damndest to get it changed...
....and no I don't live in a fairytale

When I wasn't a military brat living in Germany, where a cop can beat your ass for taking S^*t to him/her....I lived in Miami...'nuff said about that. A cop that didn't protect themselves 110% there was a dead cop.

I've met some good ones and some bad ones. I'm sure a lot of us can relate to that.

Just wanted to give my couple of Euros

and cents... since I read this long strong, but good filled with varius opinions post!!!!

Still Luv U Guys Anyway LOL hahahahahah

~KoolKat