UPDATE: Busa Bash crash victims...

Excellent points BigD. Hind sight is 20/20 and there is nothing anyone can do to change what happened. I know this is an emotional time for many of us. Please lets all keep it civil. Getting pissed off over what cannot be changed doesn't help anyone.
 
people are allowed to be upset-I myself was very shook up when I heard what happened, and even more so when I found out the how n the why of things that happened before/during the accident...and Im SERIOUSLY pi$$ed that Jimmy was the only rider to be given a ticket out this whole situation, and being cited for "Reckless Driving" of all things??
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he wasnt beind reckless-more like trusting other riders with his life-something we all do when riding hi-speed in groups.
 
people are allowed to be upset-I myself was very shook up when I heard what happened, and even more so when I found out the how n the why of things that happened before/during the accident...and Im SERIOUSLY pi$$ed that Jimmy was the only rider to be given a ticket out this whole situation, and being cited for "Reckless Driving" of all things??
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  he wasnt beind reckless-more like trusting other riders with his life-something we all do when riding hi-speed in groups.
The cop baited DOD3, when he asked how fast he was going! The ticket was BS!
 
He is the one that should have gotten the ticket and didn't. Must have something to do with being a cop. Part of the reason I am upset.
 
Seriously, I watched the scene investigator hand Robert his wallet back and say "I won't be needing this". So yes I am throwing daggers however I feel they are justified. And yes, when Jimmy has to go to court, I will be there to tell EXACTLY what happened. I'm done now.
 
ok, look, there's been plenty of finger pointing, the fact is it happened.  I was riding sweeper, by the time I caught the group the crash was over and done, everyone for the most part was already parked.  I volunteered to go back and get a trailer and get the bikes back safely to the phillips.  Rock came with me to assist & ride wingman on the way back.  I have riden with Do3 in the past, though only once.  I couldnt pick diesel out of a crowd but that did not matter to me, it was someone in our group that needed our help ... PERIOD.  

No questions of guilt, no assessment of blame, the only concern I had during the 2-3hrs it took to get the trailer, get the bikes and get back was how folks were going to recover from this terrible accident, and lets face it all involved will have demons to overcome as a result of this in addition to the physical pains.

From the reports I heard from everyone, it seems that possibly Do3 was riding a bit harder than he should have, I wasnt there, I'm not going to insert my opinions.  The one thing that seems to be the same by all accounts he low sided and diesel got caught up in it.

As mentioned previously, there is nothing to gain by asserting blame here, I am sure in time the judicial system will iron this one out.

We all have personal feelings about the incident, we have all heard tales around the hotel, I'm sure there's been plenty of other conversations about it, right now we need to focus on the injured folks and do what we can to help them get what they need, to do what we can to ensure it doesnt happen again and try to focus on the positive side, they are all alive....keep happy thoughts and prayers for the injured and lets hope they make a full recovery.
 
I did pull back and the more I think about your question, the more it pisses me off so please enlighten us!
I may have made a bad assumption, I wasn't there but your original statement sounded like you were closely following a rider that you recognized was out of control. If you were passed by an out of control rider that immediately crashed then good for you for avoiding.
 
And by the way...I didn't know Jimmy either, I just watched him fly over his handlebars.
 
Late updating from yesterday, but Jimmy called me yesterday to let me know he is alive and recovering but has a long way to go.  He was actually able to sit in a chair...anything to get out of that bed for awhile.  

I'm not sure regarding the pelvis but I know from three prior surgeries on my left hand starting re-hab/therapy just after surgery is critical.  Ask me why I had three?!  He said the docs told him about two years before the full extent of recovery and healing will be realized.  Hopefully, he will be coming home in a week or so.

Not sure what special arrangements will be needed to fly home, but I'm going to take some time looking into finding the least expensive tickets for them flying home.  I actaully have access to a travel-agent authorized only database so I'll see what shows up.
Let us (me) know what Jimmy needs to get home....he's NOT paying for his ticket back.
Maybe the Admins or Mods could set up a method for us to contribute $$ to Jimmy, I would definitely be in
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Late updating from yesterday, but Jimmy called me yesterday to let me know he is alive and recovering but has a long way to go.  He was actually able to sit in a chair...anything to get out of that bed for awhile.  

I'm not sure regarding the pelvis but I know from three prior surgeries on my left hand starting re-hab/therapy just after surgery is critical.  Ask me why I had three?!  He said the docs told him about two years before the full extent of recovery and healing will be realized.  Hopefully, he will be coming home in a week or so.

Not sure what special arrangements will be needed to fly home, but I'm going to take some time looking into finding the least expensive tickets for them flying home.  I actaully have access to a travel-agent authorized only database so I'll see what shows up.
Let us (me) know what Jimmy needs to get home....he's NOT paying for his ticket back.
Maybe the Admins or Mods could set up a method for us to contribute $$ to Jimmy,  I would definitely be in
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people are allowed to be upset-I myself was very shook up when I heard what happened, and even more so when I found out the how n the why of things that happened before/during the accident...and Im SERIOUSLY pi$$ed that Jimmy was the only rider to be given a ticket out this whole situation, and being cited for "Reckless Driving" of all things??
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he wasnt beind reckless-more like trusting other riders with his life-something we all do when riding hi-speed in groups.
The cop baited DOD3, when he asked how fast he was going! The ticket was BS!
I was standing next to DO3 when the MPH thing came up..

He asked Robert how fast he was going, and Robert said he did not know.. The cop asked if he was going 70 mph and Robert asked where he got that number.. The cop said the "other rider" said he was doing 70 mph and so the cop assumed that DO3 was also going that speed.. Robert said he had no idea how fast he was going, he was not looking at his speedo..

I have no idea who the "other rider" was that stated 70 mph but it was likely pretty important in the process of the cop writing the ticket as he seemed to accept it as a likely speed..
 
I don't know what Really Happened and Don't Really Care.  A Fellow Rider was Injured !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  PERIOD.  Wheather He FU.... UP or NOT it does'nt Matter.  

How Many times have you accidently Crossed the Yellow Line Because of one Reason or Another. Goin Too Fast, Not paying attention. SH.. Happens !!!!!!!!  I think Jimmy is probably Feeling Like Sh.. Right Now because of what Happened. If anything he Needs right Now it is OUR SUPPORT !!!!!!! Not any Crticism !!!!

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guys & gals, I'm not a lawyer (but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night
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I can appreciate trying to set the record straight but I would caution you on what you say in a public forum. We do not know how this will all shake out, if it turns into a legal issue, you can bet these threads will be scrubbed for data points. Not advocating one way or the other, just speaking from experience in other forums, what you say here can possibly lead to involvement later.

PSA over, back to your regularly scheduled thread
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I don't know what Really Happened and Don't Really Care.  A Fellow Rider was Injured !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  PERIOD.  Wheather He FU.... UP or NOT it does'nt Matter.  

How Many times have you accidently Crossed the Yellow Line Because of one Reason or Another. Goin Too Fast, Not paying attention. SH.. Happens !!!!!!!!  I think Jimmy is probably Feeling Like Sh.. Right Now because of what Happened. If anything he Needs right Now it is OUR SUPPORT !!!!!!!  Not any Crticism !!!!

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I don't know what Really Happened and Don't Really Care.  A Fellow Rider was Injured !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  PERIOD.  Wheather He FU.... UP or NOT it does'nt Matter.  

How Many times have you accidently Crossed the Yellow Line Because of one Reason or Another. Goin Too Fast, Not paying attention. SH.. Happens !!!!!!!!  I think Jimmy is probably Feeling Like Sh.. Right Now because of what Happened. If anything he Needs right Now it is OUR SUPPORT !!!!!!!  Not any Crticism !!!!

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I don't know what Really Happened and Don't Really Care.  A Fellow Rider was Injured !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  PERIOD.  Wheather He FU.... UP or NOT it does'nt Matter.  

How Many times have you accidently Crossed the Yellow Line Because of one Reason or Another. Goin Too Fast, Not paying attention. SH.. Happens !!!!!!!!  I think Jimmy is probably Feeling Like Sh.. Right Now because of what Happened. If anything he Needs right Now it is OUR SUPPORT !!!!!!!  Not any Crticism !!!!

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