Well, I believe it's herpes.. :(

lil charlie said:
Yeah, why do you think I want to go to sleep. It's a sofa on wheels. I want a track bike :)
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I figured, if you were, you would be part owner of the joint by now:whistle: You know, since a Kawi rider is a mod and all:hide:

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dadofthree said:
I'm sorry, but 5 post a day about thanks for letting me in the group I got my dog tags ........ really dude :laugh: I've watched that site since it began and that's about all it is at this point. Selling gear that makes money and promotes a single individual. Advertising for the stampede will start heating up soon....... is that really what gets you through the day. Did I miss it by far ?
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Its sad to see someone comment on something based not on what the current reality is, but because of a bias against one person involved in it. Are there posts from Scar advertising the Busa products he sells? Sure, are they as common as you're trying to make them out? Nope. In fact as I'm writing this, the first Scar posting is 24 posts down, and last I checked he's not the only one advertising on hayabusa groups to sell busa merchandise...just cause you don't like the guy doesn't mean you should assume a bunch of stuff about a huge group of people...it makes you look like an idiot.

Addendum: of the last 50 posts, only 3 have anything to do with Scar or his business interests.
 
Argilbertson said:
Its sad to see someone comment on something based not on what the current reality is, but because of a bias against one person involved in it. Are there posts from Scar advertising the Busa products he sells? Sure, are they as common as you're trying to make them out? Nope. In fact as I'm writing this, the first Scar posting is 24 posts down, and last I checked he's not the only one advertising on hayabusa groups to sell busa merchandise...just cause you don't like the guy doesn't mean you should assume a bunch of stuff about a huge group of people...it makes you look like an idiot.

Addendum: of the last 50 posts, only 3 have anything to do with Scar or his business interests.
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That's some funny chit right there:rofl:

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BusaBret said:
That's some funny chit right there:rofl:

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Gonna guess you haven't bothered to check out the group recently either. *sighs* THIS is why this site is having struggles, people who'd rather act like tools and put down other people rather than trying to appreciate the bike...Look, I get it, you two don't like Scar. Fine. Your personal issues with another person have nothing to do with me, and you're welcome to feel however you'd like about him and how he makes his money (though how what he's doing is any different than all the other people reselling hayabusa stuff still eludes me)...but when it leads you to marginalize and put down a whole group of people who are, for the most part, just coming together to share about the motorcycles that they own and love, it doesn't do anything positive for the group, the site, or the following in general.


EDIT: Yaknow, on further thought, this posting comes off as me being a tool now! xD Sorry if I offend, I just get annoyed by people letting personal differences get in the way of coming together to enjoy and celebrate things.
 
chrisjp said:
well i am not as active due to my activism in guns and politics. I still talk to my org friends alot on facebook. but because i have grown in alot of ways...and have became more outspoken im going to lay it on ya ...its simple... the reason the org is slower is that some people are not as friendly as others, and it tends to alienate the masses. some are just down right judgmental. i have been a member since 2005. complained about the "divisions" back then. decided not to whine and started a org activity to bring more together with NO JUDGEMENT. (Haya's in the Hills) which i think has been a huge success and GIXERHP and I are planning this years in the beautiful Lake George area of NY. this year will be my 6th year putting this on with very faithful followers that come just about every year and always new folks too. All in all when it all comes down to why i hesitate to come here and post I FEEL UNWELCOME AND A LOWER CLASS PERSON. no this is not "open and friendly"...it may appear as such at first...but eventually those who "see each other often and click"....just stop noticing those who they haven't met or "clicked" with... there is i believe a "core" group that make up most of the posting...the rest just come and go either due to lack of interest, bike change, or feel shunned. especially now with *cough cough* 2 bashes?? seriously?? dont get me wrong...scar and I have had many long talks about many other subjects beyond the bike we all love and i consider him my friend on line that i could go to at any time to ask any question, even personal. and i cant wait for the day to meet him and shake his hand and treat him like a brother....BUT...i also recognize the beast....and knew it would eventually happen. no i dont think its in the best interest of the org. or a fair representation of what i always thought the org was..is....whatever. either way i am sure folks will have fun and meet great folks...but also...they will not meet others....my goal with haya's in the hills was for EVERYONE to be welcome. though i will say honestly i have "discouraged" after many years and hard soul searching one individual. it still bothers me as i try to accept everyone. but in the long run, he also made me (and my family) feel i didnt belong. so i too have grappled with why some just dont "make it" here. but in the end i still only ask of myself why I am not. because if i cant make it here and feel totally welcome, with all my stubbornness and ability to look past things. (yes GNBRETT i still will talk to you even though we butt heads)... how can anyone else who wants to feel welcome but does not have the patience that i have, ever expect to continue to post here with all the conflict. i am NOT a lower class person. I do NOT have to think like everyone else. i do NOT have to share peoples same brainwashed views on government or LEO's . i do NOT feel welcome , never have, probably never will...but for those future friends i may meet, and friends i have made... i stay. those who give me the "jeebies" about feeling less than welcome...believe it or not ill still give them the chance if i can meet them..but i am not holding my breath.
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drawing attention to myself...no...an enshrinement of exactly what i was talking about....maybe....notice not one person responded to the "insights" i presented....gosh i hate being right...
 
chrisjp said:
drawing attention to myself...no...an enshrinement of exactly what i was talking about....maybe....notice not one person responded to the "insights" i presented....gosh i hate being right...
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Sorry Chris, didn't respond cause I could really find any fault with the thought process. This site, like most, has its cliques, and sometimes it can really make it tough to truly reach one another.

EDIT: Though technically, you were a member since 2006, not 2005...at least so says your avatar ;):laugh:
 
Argilbertson said:
Sorry Chris, didn't respond cause I could really find any fault with the thought process. This site, like most, has its cliques, and sometimes it can really make it tough to truly reach one another.

EDIT: Though technically, you were a member since 2006, not 2005...at least so says your avatar ;):laugh:
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ok...so sometimes i get ahead of myself lol
 
Argilbertson said:
EDIT: Yaknow, on further thought, this posting comes off as me being a tool now! xD Sorry if I offend, I just get annoyed by people letting personal differences get in the way of coming together to enjoy and celebrate things.
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Bingo!!! The pot/kettle syndrome is the funny chit I was referring to:whistle: Buuuuuuut, since you mentioned it.......keep drinking the koolaid and beating the drums. The facade depends on it!!:beerchug:

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guess some people just stir the pot on here and the divas get them all bunched up....its just a forum...
 
Chris, I didn't read the whole thread....I'm guilty of that sometimes, sorry. I think your a hellava guy. Keep do'n what your do'n and dont worry about the rest.
 
chrisjp said:
well i am not as active due to my activism in guns and politics. I still talk to my org friends alot on facebook. but because i have grown in alot of ways...and have became more outspoken im going to lay it on ya ...its simple... the reason the org is slower is that some people are not as friendly as others, and it tends to alienate the masses. some are just down right judgmental. i have been a member since 2005. complained about the "divisions" back then. decided not to whine and started a org activity to bring more together with NO JUDGEMENT. (Haya's in the Hills) which i think has been a huge success and GIXERHP and I are planning this years in the beautiful Lake George area of NY. this year will be my 6th year putting this on with very faithful followers that come just about every year and always new folks too. All in all when it all comes down to why i hesitate to come here and post I FEEL UNWELCOME AND A LOWER CLASS PERSON. no this is not "open and friendly"...it may appear as such at first...but eventually those who "see each other often and click"....just stop noticing those who they haven't met or "clicked" with... there is i believe a "core" group that make up most of the posting...the rest just come and go either due to lack of interest, bike change, or feel shunned. especially now with *cough cough* 2 bashes?? seriously?? dont get me wrong...scar and I have had many long talks about many other subjects beyond the bike we all love and i consider him my friend on line that i could go to at any time to ask any question, even personal. and i cant wait for the day to meet him and shake his hand and treat him like a brother....BUT...i also recognize the beast....and knew it would eventually happen. no i dont think its in the best interest of the org. or a fair representation of what i always thought the org was..is....whatever. either way i am sure folks will have fun and meet great folks...but also...they will not meet others....my goal with haya's in the hills was for EVERYONE to be welcome. though i will say honestly i have "discouraged" after many years and hard soul searching one individual. it still bothers me as i try to accept everyone. but in the long run, he also made me (and my family) feel i didnt belong. so i too have grappled with why some just dont "make it" here. but in the end i still only ask of myself why I am not. because if i cant make it here and feel totally welcome, with all my stubbornness and ability to look past things. (yes GNBRETT i still will talk to you even though we butt heads)... how can anyone else who wants to feel welcome but does not have the patience that i have, ever expect to continue to post here with all the conflict. i am NOT a lower class person. I do NOT have to think like everyone else. i do NOT have to share peoples same brainwashed views on government or LEO's . i do NOT feel welcome , never have, probably never will...but for those future friends i may meet, and friends i have made... i stay. those who give me the "jeebies" about feeling less than welcome...believe it or not ill still give them the chance if i can meet them..but i am not holding my breath.
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hope i've never made you feel that way..if i have, i apologize! i surely didn't mean to...i enjoyed my trip up to and time spent with you, your family, and every one else at the HIH i made it to, it was a great time and i hope to make it back one of these years...if it wasn't for the job and money thing, i could travel even more :thumbsup:
 
Argilbertson said:
Gonna guess you haven't bothered to check out the group recently either. *sighs* THIS is why this site is having struggles, people who'd rather act like tools and put down other people rather than trying to appreciate the bike...Look, I get it, you two don't like Scar. Fine. Your personal issues with another person have nothing to do with me, and you're welcome to feel however you'd like about him and how he makes his money (though how what he's doing is any different than all the other people reselling hayabusa stuff still eludes me)...but when it leads you to marginalize and put down a whole group of people who are, for the most part, just coming together to share about the motorcycles that they own and love, it doesn't do anything positive for the group, the site, or the following in general.

EDIT: Yaknow, on further thought, this posting comes off as me being a tool now! xD Sorry if I offend, I just get annoyed by people letting personal differences get in the way of coming together to enjoy and celebrate things.
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Ya know this post could go on any message/group board, even the one you're defending.
 
Argilbertson said:
Its sad to see someone comment on something based not on what the current reality is, but because of a bias against one person involved in it. Are there posts from Scar advertising the Busa products he sells? Sure, are they as common as you're trying to make them out? Nope. In fact as I'm writing this, the first Scar posting is 24 posts down, and last I checked he's not the only one advertising on hayabusa groups to sell busa merchandise...just cause you don't like the guy doesn't mean you should assume a bunch of stuff about a huge group of people...it makes you look like an idiot.

Addendum: of the last 50 posts, only 3 have anything to do with Scar or his business interests.
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I'm the idiot, idiot. I never said one word nor have I about Scar. Go ahead azz and go back and scan all post, you'll never find it. The Gall to come on a site and advertise another site is what really makes me laugh, go away, and stay away. You add absolutely nothing to this site but insults and no one needs that. Especially me.

I don't normally go on the offensive because it just doesn't make a crap in the big picture, but this was just bad enough to push me over that edge. Tired of punks like you coming in here once or twice a year and talking up another site.

I actually stay on all these sites and my description is exactly accurate for the long look. I was actually looking at yesterday and it was like a different site. People asking and posting things of interest. It was like a different site, but my post painted a picture of the site since it was created.

Don't for one minute think you know me or even yourself, idiot, my God

I really should not have posted by opinion in this matter, it's not like me, and this is why. Really hit a nerve didn't I. I must be getting old , telling the truth without care.
 
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