Whooped an 08 zx14

[Bird Hunter]

I respect the 14's and their owners, they are bike fans like me, but bottom line - if the Busa isn't the best, then why is EVERYONE wanting and trying to beat it?? To me, that shows who's boss. Everyone wants to try to de-throne the king... right??

DUDE, i love that signature pic

me too... so much, that i think i want to see it again

 

[rkabusa]

I dont know I ran into one at the drag strip the guy was doing real inpressive time faster than mine. we finaly line up against each other. I got the win only because he got the red light

 

[1300hemibusa]

Noticed how that controversy has died down now? There aren't as many trolls on the board with crazy Kaw stories about ZX-14's beating Busas anymore either. The 08 Haybusa came out and the ZX riders were like wait til the 08 Zx-14 comes out it's going to own the 08 Busa....Well ? What happened?

Well what happened is i'm still kicking the crap out of them .. The 08 busa is no faster than the 06 07 zx14 and that has been proven over and over at the drag strip by pro riders ..Yes and the Busa trolls have stopped coming to the zx14s sites because they have nothing for the zx14 ...Fact is members that had zx14 and traded them for 08 busa have said > They can't go any faster on there new Busa mod for mod Vs the zx14 ..
As for the 08 zx14 it is down on HP over the 06 07 zx14 in stock form but with a pipe and P/C it is just as fast as the older model ...If you look in AMA Prostrar Super sport class the zx14 is faster than the busa . The zx14 out of the box is just a better drag bike ( easier to ride ) The 08 busas in Super Sport class are running 9.20 to 9.30s while the zx14s are running 9.0s to 9.10s .. So go ahead and sell yourself the dream that your Busa is faster than the zx14 ... Fact is they are so close it's all rider just like the liter bikes ..

 

[Bird Hunter]

 

[Bird Hunter]

Noticed how that controversy has died down now? There aren't as many trolls on the board with crazy Kaw stories about ZX-14's beating Busas anymore either. The 08 Haybusa came out and the ZX riders were like wait til the 08 Zx-14 comes out it's going to own the 08 Busa....Well ? What happened?

Well what happened is i'm still kicking the crap out of them .. The 08 busa is no faster than the 06 07 zx14 and that has been proven over and over at the drag strip by pro riders ..Yes and the Busa trolls have stopped coming to the zx14s sites because they have nothing for the zx14 ...Fact is members that had zx14 and traded them for 08 busa have said > They can't go any faster on there new Busa mod for mod Vs the zx14 ..
As for the 08 zx14 it is down on HP over the 06 07 zx14 in stock form but with a pipe and P/C it is just as fast as the older model ...If you look in AMA Prostrar Super sport class the zx14 is faster than the busa . The zx14 out of the box is just a better drag bike ( easier to ride ) The 08 busas in Super Sport class are running 9.20 to 9.30s while the zx14s are running 9.0s to 9.10s .. So go ahead and sell yourself the dream that your Busa is faster than the zx14 ... Fact is they are so close it's all rider just like the liter bikes ..

Now if we could just get those pesky ZX-14 trolls out of the Busa forum, all would be great !!!

 

[thrasherfox]

Ok.. I've ridden both a ZX-14 as well as my 2005 Busa. I must say given the same mods, the 14 will beat you. It's just a more powerful faster bike. When I hear stories of Gen1 owners beating 14 riders, I can only attribute the win to a tentative 14 owner. Period.

Just my 2 cents on this subject.

Yeah but the bottom line is a win is a win.

People will argue all day which is a faster bike.

My personal opinion is both bikes are powerful bikes, I think they are somewhat equal in power.


But comparing the Busa to the 14, I think at speeds below 160 (Just a guess) the rider is more important.

However, after 160 I think the deteriming factor switches from the riders ability and starts to lean towards the design of the bike.

Even if the 14 is more powerfull, it isnt THAT much more powerfull. What is important at speeds above 160 is the aerodynamics.

The faster you go, the more aerodynamics becomes important. The less aerodynamic a vehicle is the more power it takes to push it at the same speeds as a more aerodynamic vehicle.


I believe this is where the busa will almost always walk away from a 14 given same mods and same rider. at 180 miles per hour the 14 would require more of a power advantage over the busa than it can produce.


Just my thoughts, they might not be accurate but they are my thoughts just the same

 

[1300hemibusa]

Ok.. I've ridden both a ZX-14 as well as my 2005 Busa. I must say given the same mods, the 14 will beat you. It's just a more powerful faster bike. When I hear stories of Gen1 owners beating 14 riders, I can only attribute the win to a tentative 14 owner. Period.

Just my 2 cents on this subject.

Yeah but the bottom line is a win is a win.

People will argue all day which is a faster bike.

My personal opinion is both bikes are powerful bikes, I think they are somewhat equal in power.


But comparing the Busa to the 14, I think at speeds below 160 (Just a guess) the rider is more important.

However, after 160 I think the deteriming factor switches from the riders ability and starts to lean towards the design of the bike.

Even if the 14 is more powerfull, it isnt THAT much more powerfull. What is important at speeds above 160 is the aerodynamics.

The faster you go, the more aerodynamics becomes important. The less aerodynamic a vehicle is the more power it takes to push it at the same speeds as a more aerodynamic vehicle.


I believe this is where the busa will almost always walk away from a 14 given same mods and same rider. at 180 miles per hour the 14 would require more of a power advantage over the busa than it can produce.


Just my thoughts, they might not be accurate but they are my thoughts just the same

The aerodynamics are not much of factor ... Just look at what Brock did at Maxton mile with the 08 busa and the 06 zx14 ... 2006 zx14 went 200 and the 08 Busa went 201 .. That shows you how very close in power and aerodynamics really are ..Both bikes made within 3 HP of each other on Brocks own Dyno .. What can not be factored in on the Dyno is the Ram air, while the 08 Busa posted a bit more HP on the dyno it doesn't have a good ram air system ..The zx14 on the other hand has a very good ram air system and pick ups a few more HP at High MPH over the Busa . In the end they both end up making about the same HP as shown at Maxton Mile ..

 

[1300hemibusa]

Noticed how that controversy has died down now? There aren't as many trolls on the board with crazy Kaw stories about ZX-14's beating Busas anymore either. The 08 Haybusa came out and the ZX riders were like wait til the 08 Zx-14 comes out it's going to own the 08 Busa....Well ? What happened?

Well what happened is i'm still kicking the crap out of them .. The 08 busa is no faster than the 06 07 zx14 and that has been proven over and over at the drag strip by pro riders ..Yes and the Busa trolls have stopped coming to the zx14s sites because they have nothing for the zx14 ...Fact is members  that had zx14 and traded them for 08 busa have said > They can't go any faster on there new Busa mod for mod Vs the zx14 ..
 As for the 08 zx14 it is down on HP over the 06 07 zx14 in stock form but with a pipe and P/C it is just as fast as the older model ...If you look in AMA Prostrar Super sport class  the zx14 is faster than the busa . The zx14 out of the box is just a better drag bike ( easier to ride ) The 08 busas in Super Sport class are running 9.20 to 9.30s while the zx14s are running 9.0s to 9.10s .. So go ahead and sell yourself the dream that your Busa is faster than the zx14 ... Fact is they are so close it's all rider  just like the liter bikes ..

Now if we could just get those pesky ZX-14 trolls out of the Busa forum, all would be great !!!

                 

Funny calling me a troll when i have been a member longer than you ..

 

[thrasherfox]

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Ok.. I've ridden both a ZX-14 as well as my 2005 Busa. I must say given the same mods, the 14 will beat you. It's just a more powerful faster bike. When I hear stories of Gen1 owners beating 14 riders, I can only attribute the win to a tentative 14 owner. Period.

Just my 2 cents on this subject.

Yeah but the bottom line is a win is a win.

People will argue all day which is a faster bike.

My personal opinion is both bikes are powerful bikes, I think they are somewhat equal in power.


But comparing the Busa to the 14, I think at speeds below 160 (Just a guess) the rider is more important.

However, after 160 I think the deteriming factor switches from the riders ability and starts to lean towards the design of the bike.

Even if the 14 is more powerfull, it isnt THAT much more powerfull. What is important at speeds above 160 is the aerodynamics.

The faster you go, the more aerodynamics becomes important. The less aerodynamic a vehicle is the more power it takes to push it at the same speeds as a more aerodynamic vehicle.


I believe this is where the busa will almost always walk away from a 14 given same mods and same rider. at 180 miles per hour the 14 would require more of a power advantage over the busa than it can produce.


Just my thoughts, they might not be accurate but they are my thoughts just the same

The aerodynamics are not much of factor ... Just look at what Brock did at Maxton mile with the 08 busa and the 06 zx14 ... 2006 zx14 went 200 and the 08 Busa went 201 .. That shows you how very close in power and aerodynamics really are ..Both bikes made within 3 HP of each other on Brocks own Dyno .. What can not be factored in on the Dyno is the Ram air, while the 08 Busa posted a bit more HP on the dyno it doesn't have a good ram air system ..The zx14 on the other hand has a very good ram air system and pick ups a few more HP at High MPH over the Busa . In the end they both end up making about the same HP as shown at Maxton Mile ..

Uhhh yeah.. Aerodynamics do not matter.. gotchya..

Ok, you win

 

[tegbusa]

I wouldn't mind having both

 

[1300hemibusa]

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Ok.. I've ridden both a ZX-14 as well as my 2005 Busa. I must say given the same mods, the 14 will beat you. It's just a more powerful faster bike. When I hear stories of Gen1 owners beating 14 riders, I can only attribute the win to a tentative 14 owner. Period.

Just my 2 cents on this subject.

Yeah but the bottom line is a win is a win.

People will argue all day which is a faster bike.

My personal opinion is both bikes are powerful bikes, I think they are somewhat equal in power.


But comparing the Busa to the 14, I think at speeds below 160 (Just a guess) the rider is more important.

However, after 160 I think the deteriming factor switches from the riders ability and starts to lean towards the design of the bike.

Even if the 14 is more powerfull, it isnt THAT much more powerfull. What is important at speeds above 160 is the aerodynamics.

The faster you go, the more aerodynamics becomes important. The less aerodynamic a vehicle is the more power it takes to push it at the same speeds as a more aerodynamic vehicle.


I believe this is where the busa will almost always walk away from a 14 given same mods and same rider. at 180 miles per hour the 14 would require more of a power advantage over the busa than it can produce.


Just my thoughts, they might not be accurate but they are my thoughts just the same

The aerodynamics are not much of factor ... Just look at what Brock did at Maxton mile with the 08 busa and the 06 zx14 ... 2006 zx14 went 200 and the 08 Busa went 201 .. That shows you how very close in power and aerodynamics really are ..Both bikes made within 3 HP of each other on Brocks own Dyno .. What can not be factored in on the Dyno is the Ram air, while the 08 Busa posted a bit more HP on the dyno it doesn't have a good ram air system ..The zx14 on the other hand has a very good ram air system and pick ups a few more HP at High MPH over the Busa . In the end they both end up making about the same HP as shown at Maxton Mile ..

Uhhh yeah.. Aerodynamics do not matter.. gotchya..  

Ok, you win  

 

I didn't say they don't matter ..In the case of the zx14 Vs the Busa they are so close in Aerodynamics it's not a factor...

 

[thrasherfox]

Noticed how that controversy has died down now? There aren't as many trolls on the board with crazy Kaw stories about ZX-14's beating Busas anymore either. The 08 Haybusa came out and the ZX riders were like wait til the 08 Zx-14 comes out it's going to own the 08 Busa....Well ? What happened?

Well what happened is i'm still kicking the crap out of them .. The 08 busa is no faster than the 06 07 zx14 and that has been proven over and over at the drag strip by pro riders ..Yes and the Busa trolls have stopped coming to the zx14s sites because they have nothing for the zx14 ...Fact is members that had zx14 and traded them for 08 busa have said > They can't go any faster on there new Busa mod for mod Vs the zx14 ..
As for the 08 zx14 it is down on HP over the 06 07 zx14 in stock form but with a pipe and P/C it is just as fast as the older model ...If you look in AMA Prostrar Super sport class the zx14 is faster than the busa . The zx14 out of the box is just a better drag bike ( easier to ride ) The 08 busas in Super Sport class are running 9.20 to 9.30s while the zx14s are running 9.0s to 9.10s .. So go ahead and sell yourself the dream that your Busa is faster than the zx14 ... Fact is they are so close it's all rider just like the liter bikes ..

Now if we could just get those pesky ZX-14 trolls out of the Busa forum, all would be great !!!

Funny calling me a troll when i have been a member longer than you ..

Uhh yeah, and Birdhunter has almost 3000 posts, you dont even have 500 posts.

So you are on a Busa board with less than 500 posts since 2005 and basically putting down the Busa and expressing the 14 is better than the Busa?

Yeah I think people could call you a troll. You might not be, but I can understand why people would think of you as one.

 

[MET]

When I'm out lurking,........I never see one. I'm sure that day will come,.....and I'll report my confrontation as well. Ride safe,......enjoy that Busa!!

Ahhh Padawan your time will come.

 

[MET]

I dont see any bikes when I am out riding, unless its with my oRg family, never can figure that one out.

They hide.

 

[Wag]

Ok.. I've ridden both a ZX-14 as well as my 2005 Busa. I must say given the same mods, the 14 will beat you. It's just a more powerful faster bike. When I hear stories of Gen1 owners beating 14 riders, I can only attribute the win to a tentative 14 owner. Period.

Just my 2 cents on this subject.

That's about the size of it.

--Wag--

 

[MET]

I look for either bikes all the time. I do not concern myself with anything stock any more. Both are good bikes but hey we bought Busas for may reasons..

 

[MET]

I passed a panel van today

hhahahaha be careful they have hidden 1000hp motors in the rear.

 

[1300hemibusa]

Noticed how that controversy has died down now? There aren't as many trolls on the board with crazy Kaw stories about ZX-14's beating Busas anymore either. The 08 Haybusa came out and the ZX riders were like wait til the 08 Zx-14 comes out it's going to own the 08 Busa....Well ? What happened?

Well what happened is i'm still kicking the crap out of them .. The 08 busa is no faster than the 06 07 zx14 and that has been proven over and over at the drag strip by pro riders ..Yes and the Busa trolls have stopped coming to the zx14s sites because they have nothing for the zx14 ...Fact is members  that had zx14 and traded them for 08 busa have said > They can't go any faster on there new Busa mod for mod Vs the zx14 ..
 As for the 08 zx14 it is down on HP over the 06 07 zx14 in stock form but with a pipe and P/C it is just as fast as the older model ...If you look in AMA Prostrar Super sport class  the zx14 is faster than the busa . The zx14 out of the box is just a better drag bike ( easier to ride ) The 08 busas in Super Sport class are running 9.20 to 9.30s while the zx14s are running 9.0s to 9.10s .. So go ahead and sell yourself the dream that your Busa is faster than the zx14 ... Fact is they are so close it's all rider  just like the liter bikes ..

Now if we could just get those pesky ZX-14 trolls out of the Busa forum, all would be great !!!

                 

Funny calling me a troll when i have been a member longer than you ..

 

Uhh yeah, and Birdhunter has almost 3000 posts, you dont even have 500 posts.

So you are on a Busa board with less than 500 posts since 2005 and basically putting down the Busa and expressing the 14 is better than the Busa?

Yeah I think people could call you a troll. You might not be, but I can understand why people would think of you as one.

You could look at it that way but if you knew the history .. See i have owned two Busas ..A 1999 and a 2005 both i liked very much... I was looking forward to getting an 08 Busa .. But after seening and riding one i found it to be no better than what i allready own ..Now if zook would have done what we all wanted and build us an all new Busa with more power, better looks, better brakes and less vibes i would own one .. But what they gave us is a warmed over 99 to 07 Busa ..I'm looking at getting a B-king , the bike is really growing on me ..Yes i know it not as fast as a Busa but there is just something i like about that bike ..So i'm here and i don't post much , i read just about everything here and injoy the site very much ..I hope someday they really do revamp the Busa because i'll be all over it like a HoBo in a Ham samwich...

 

[Spudley]

Testy exchange here....same ol' arguement..........



















































Now go out there and challenge an 08' Hayabusa...young Jedi !!!!

 

[CorrodedAlien]

I had one of these try to take me off the line the other day... Mercedes AMG E63 Was kinda funny.