You asked for it. Goldwing Bike Porn

[TallTom]

Glad to hear the Goldwing did so well, not suprisingly.
I think I'll get one in the next few months, I've been looking at several of the 1800's for a while now.
Prices seem to vary widely here, and they either sell in a week, or usually 3 months, it's a strange market.
I'll find one I can't say no to eventually.

Depends on how they are equipped. There were lots of options levels offered that can swing prices by a couple of thousand.

 

[sixpack577]

Depends on how they are equipped. There were lots of options levels offered that can swing prices by a couple of thousand.

Yeah, I've noticed that too, the airbag and navigation models, with heated seats and grips, and the dash change in 2007.
I've seen a few black ones, 2007-2010 with heated seats/grips, driver backrest, passenger armrests(which are expensive to add, and worth looking for already on), in the $7500k-$10k range, with miles from low teens to 40k-60k.
Some had new tires, aftermarket suspension, highway pegs, and a few other farkles.
From the early 2010's, the GW's jump to $14-$16k here, for basically the same bike.
The latest generation are high teens to low $20k used.
For what it is, and how much I'll use it, plus riding my gsxr, about $10k is about the most I'de want to pay for one.
I still see crazy price variations on the same bikes here, but all the ones on FB are owned by retired, elderly, or selling for dad in the profiles, and they all look well cared for.
I think between being a Honda, and the type of guy that buys these new, if the bike isn't leaking, making noise, and rides good...then it's good.
It'll still be running until you can no longer buy gasoline, lol
I'm just waiting on the right one...

 

[sixpack577]

Did you take any pics of your bike on your trip?

 

[TallTom]

Yeah, I've noticed that too, the airbag and navigation models, with heated seats and grips, and the dash change in 2007.
I've seen a few black ones, 2007-2010 with heated seats/grips, driver backrest, passenger armrests(which are expensive to add, and worth looking for already on), in the $7500k-$10k range, with miles from low teens to 40k-60k.
Some had new tires, aftermarket suspension, highway pegs, and a few other farkles.
From the early 2010's, the GW's jump to $14-$16k here, for basically the same bike.
The latest generation are high teens to low $20k used.
For what it is, and how much I'll use it, plus riding my gsxr, about $10k is about the most I'de want to pay for one.
I still see crazy price variations on the same bikes here, but all the ones on FB are owned by retired, elderly, or selling for dad in the profiles, and they all look well cared for.
I think between being a Honda, and the type of guy that buys these new, if the bike isn't leaking, making noise, and rides good...then it's good.
It'll still be running until you can no longer buy gasoline, lol
I'm just waiting on the right one...

My advice. Don't waste $ on Nav equipped. It's not a good system and Honda forces updates on you. I installed my aftermarket Nav and it's better. CB equipped are mostly used for group rides. That can be overcome by Bluetooth communicators now. I could care less for the CB option. That's like a $600 option. Same with CD player. Big $$ option. I put an aftermarket plug n play digital version. I literally only used 1 flash drive on this trip. It has 700 songs on it. Never got through it's library.

Most of the 6th gens are as you said older well heeled riders. They usually spend $$ to keep them impeccable. They don't want to be stranded anywhere.

The latest generation were and are marketed to the younger "sport touring" bracket. It's a great bike yes. But it is in a different role now. Hasn't sold well and there are a lot on the resale market. But definitely a better version of the 1800 engine and Gold wing suspension.

As to farkles. They all come pretty well equipped for mile munching. They all have highway pegs. They all have stereo. They all have cruise. I didn't want chrome farkles on mine. Less to spend time cleaning on. But yeah some guys spend 6K on shiney bits. And then want that back on resale. Goldwing has a wide selection of aftermarket.

P.S. The 2006 to 2010 had some display issues. They just flake out with no real notice. Honda wants a fortune for replacements. There are a few aftermarket options to help. I do not know how plug n play they are.

Suspension upgrades is a personal thing. If the buyer is 5'6-5'9 and 160ish pounds they probably won't touch the factory. It's a freaking Cadillac ride. To upgrade your suspension is thousands. And that is a personal decision. I LOVE my upgraded suspension. But I bought mine well enough that I can get my $$ back out of that.

Heated seats and grips, again where do you live and when will you ride as far as seasons. And they do seem to pop fuses as they age out. I just buy gear and live in a pretty mild climate. But if I knew I was going to be doing a lot of cold weather commuting, those heated bits free up some space as I wouldn't need as severe a cold weather gear to keep warm.

Goldwings are pretty over engineered. And they detune it. There doesn't seem to be any aftermarket tuning options. So yeah sometimes I think this big girl could use some more ponies. But then as it clicks off 45MPG and clocks multi century miles, you learn to take a good platform and just go with it.

Honda has refined this thing for about 40 years now.

Mine is 20% over driven. She was pulling grades at 1700RPM in 3rd gear. Lots of torque on tap. I rarely see 3K RPM. Unless it's 95 on the slab. Or some spirited shifts.

 

[sixpack577]

My advice. Don't waste $ on Nav equipped. It's not a good system and Honda forces updates on you. I installed my aftermarket Nav and it's better. CB equipped are mostly used for group rides. That can be overcome by Bluetooth communicators now. I could care less for the CB option. That's like a $600 option. Same with CD player. Big $$ option. I put an aftermarket plug n play digital version. I literally only used 1 flash drive on this trip. It has 700 songs on it. Never got through it's library.

Most of the 6th gens are as you said older well heeled riders. They usually spend $$ to keep them impeccable. They don't want to be stranded anywhere.

The latest generation were and are marketed to the younger "sport touring" bracket. It's a great bike yes. But it is in a different role now. Hasn't sold well and there are a lot on the resale market. But definitely a better version of the 1800 engine and Gold wing suspension.

As to farkles. They all come pretty well equipped for mile munching. They all have highway pegs. They all have stereo. They all have cruise. I didn't want chrome farkles on mine. Less to spend time cleaning on. But yeah some guys spend 6K on shiney bits. And then want that back on resale. Goldwing has a wide selection of aftermarket.

P.S. The 2006 to 2010 had some display issues. They just flake out with no real notice. Honda wants a fortune for replacements. There are a few aftermarket options to help. I do not know how plug n play they are.

Suspension upgrades is a personal thing. If the buyer is 5'6-5'9 and 160ish pounds they probably won't touch the factory. It's a freaking Cadillac ride. To upgrade your suspension is thousands. And that is a personal decision. I LOVE my upgraded suspension. But I bought mine well enough that I can get my $$ back out of that.

Heated seats and grips, again where do you live and when will you ride as far as seasons. And they do seem to pop fuses as they age out. I just buy gear and live in a pretty mild climate. But if I knew I was going to be doing a lot of cold weather commuting, those heated bits free up some space as I wouldn't need as severe a cold weather gear to keep warm.

Goldwings are pretty over engineered. And they detune it. There doesn't seem to be any aftermarket tuning options. So yeah sometimes I think this big girl could use some more ponies. But then as it clicks off 45MPG and clocks multi century miles, you learn to take a good platform and just go with it.

Honda has refined this thing for about 40 years now.

Mine is 20% over driven. She was pulling grades at 1700RPM in 3rd gear. Lots of torque on tap. I rarely see 3K RPM. Unless it's 95 on the slab. Or some spirited shifts.

That's alot of good info, thanks
And yeah, I'm not interested in navigation, cb, chrome, or cd or comms.
I do want the heated seats, but could care less about the heated grips, as I have heated gloves.
I've seen a few with airbags too, and would prefer without, but it's not a deal breaker, we'll see.
I'll be using it mainly for 2up with the gf, day trips, few dozen to a few hundred miles at a time, all seasons and weather.

 

[TallTom]

That's alot of good info, thanks
And yeah, I'm not interested in navigation, cb, chrome, or cd or comms.
I do want the heated seats, but could care less about the heated grips, as I have heated gloves.
I've seen a few with airbags too, and would prefer without, but it's not a deal breaker, we'll see.
I'll be using it mainly for 2up with the gf, day trips, few dozen to a few hundred miles at a time, all seasons and weather.

I think if you get an airbag version you have to buy it pretty optioned up. I don't think you can buy the A trim package and then add an airbag.

And I think if you get heated seats that's the comfort package and heated grips are going to be there.

 

[sixpack577]

Glad I did the hose clamp inspection. Every coolant clamp needed at least a quarter turn to hit that "snug" feel. No signs of any coolant escaping, but I can sure see how it could over time. Very happy I learned about this inspection! That was a very valuable side job while I was in here.

Here is another "while you are in here". On occasion and almost always on older bikes owners get weird electrical things. The audio starts to develop a buzz/hum, weird engine codes get set but the sensors all test good when you troubleshoot. Even the cruise control would intermittently disengage. Not to a specific mileage, it seems more from age. There is absolutely nothing in the manual that discusses this

So this is hidden in the belly of the beast.

The 1st pic is how you see it after tank is removed.
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If you're not looking for it, you'd easily miss that little green wire you can just make out here in the center.

Now move those 2 hoses out of the way and it gets a little more interesting.
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Then if you look below you see this.

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There are 3 ground lugs that come together here from separate places. This is referred to in the bike electrical schematics as G1. Nowhere else is it mentioned.

Here is what happens. Much like a battery, the lugs get corroded. What happens is the actual mounting bolt corrodes and it migrates to the the lugs. Build up resistance and you start getting all the electrical weirdness. Even though I have no corrosion, I removed my bolt and replaced it with a stainless one. When I was doing this I noticed that they used Blue Loctite to lock that bolt in. So I ran a tap down and chased the threads. Ran some Acetone down the hole and cleaned it all up. I want solid metal to metal all the way. I used one of my 18 gauge needles and a syringe and I injected at the very bottom a dab of blue Loc-Tite. The bolt threads at the bottom will get that adhesion help. The threads above will be all clean metal to clean metal contact.

There is no water that can get up there, but if you lived in a salty climate I could see that starting the process. I also think a lower grade of steel is susceptible to some galvanization with the lugs.

So now that I got these "while I'm in heres" done, we can get back to shock porn.

With the tank out, we have this glorious sight!
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I'm now about 12 hours in.

Good find on that ground, I have plenty of ss hardware, and will clean and loctite the new ss bolt.

 

[TallTom]

Good find on that ground, I have plenty of ss hardware, and will clean and loctite the new ss bolt.

You've already pulled your tank?

 

[sixpack577]

You've already pulled your tank?

No
The bike is still all together.
I'm going to take it apart at the weekend.
I can do the front quickly now, since I just did it.
For the rear, I've yet to remove the side bags, I just covered them with towels and squeezed through my basement door...which left some small scuffs(that'll buff out).
I know it's pretty simple to do, I just havn't really done anything with the back of the bike yet, othet than the license plate.

 

[TallTom]

No
The bike is still all together.
I'm going to take it apart at the weekend.
I can do the front quickly now, since I just did it.
For the rear, I've yet to remove the side bags, I just covered them with towels and squeezed through my basement door...which left some small scuffs(that'll buff out).
I know it's pretty simple to do, I just havn't really done anything with the back of the bike yet, othet than the license plate.

Bags are easy. Tank is a biotch.

 

[sixpack577]

Bags are easy. Tank is a biotch.

lmao...that would figure

 

[GIXERHP]

Glad I did the hose clamp inspection. Every coolant clamp needed at least a quarter turn to hit that "snug" feel. No signs of any coolant escaping, but I can sure see how it could over time. Very happy I learned about this inspection! That was a very valuable side job while I was in here.

Here is another "while you are in here". On occasion and almost always on older bikes owners get weird electrical things. The audio starts to develop a buzz/hum, weird engine codes get set but the sensors all test good when you troubleshoot. Even the cruise control would intermittently disengage. Not to a specific mileage, it seems more from age. There is absolutely nothing in the manual that discusses this

So this is hidden in the belly of the beast.

The 1st pic is how you see it after tank is removed.
View attachment 1675874

If you're not looking for it, you'd easily miss that little green wire you can just make out here in the center.

Now move those 2 hoses out of the way and it gets a little more interesting.
View attachment 1675875

Then if you look below you see this.

View attachment 1675876
There are 3 ground lugs that come together here from separate places. This is referred to in the bike electrical schematics as G1. Nowhere else is it mentioned.

Here is what happens. Much like a battery, the lugs get corroded. What happens is the actual mounting bolt corrodes and it migrates to the the lugs. Build up resistance and you start getting all the electrical weirdness. Even though I have no corrosion, I removed my bolt and replaced it with a stainless one. When I was doing this I noticed that they used Blue Loctite to lock that bolt in. So I ran a tap down and chased the threads. Ran some Acetone down the hole and cleaned it all up. I want solid metal to metal all the way. I used one of my 18 gauge needles and a syringe and I injected at the very bottom a dab of blue Loc-Tite. The bolt threads at the bottom will get that adhesion help. The threads above will be all clean metal to clean metal contact.

There is no water that can get up there, but if you lived in a salty climate I could see that starting the process. I also think a lower grade of steel is susceptible to some galvanization with the lugs.

So now that I got these "while I'm in heres" done, we can get back to shock porn.

With the tank out, we have this glorious sight!
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I'm now about 12 hours in.

Hey look you found the rear shock! LOL

 

[TallTom]

Hey look you found the rear shock! LOL

I hope to never see her that naked ever again

 

[sixpack577]

I have between a quarter and a half tank right now, but I'm going to burn up anothet gallon or so before I take the tank out.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

I have between a quarter and a half tank right now, but I'm going to burn up anothet gallon or so before I take the tank out.

How come? It only holds 17-18 gallons right?

 

[sixpack577]

How come? It only holds 17-18 gallons right?

It looks like a 20 gallon tank...
lol

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

It looks like a 20 gallon tank...
lol

I remember riding a 1975 when they first came out and really liking the feel of the weight down low when leaning over. Felt very stable. I’ve read where it’s a bitch to remove as is all the stuff that has to be removed just to replace the air filter. I’ve gotta replace the monoshock on my new 82 Honda which I dread even though it’s nothing compared to your rig.

 

[sixpack577]

I remember riding a 1975 when they first came out and really liking the feel of the weight down low when leaning over. Felt very stable. I’ve read where it’s a bitch to remove as is all the stuff that has to be removed just to replace the air filter. I’ve gotta replace the monoshock on my new 82 Honda which I dread even though it’s nothing compared to your rig.

I have worked on many bikes over the years, and I think it's like anything else...it's easy if you know how.
The first time I take apart or put together anything, I am very slow at it, and the Goldwing was no different.
I actually must say that I cannot complain about any of the assembly that I have seen so far, but rather very good engineering to produce a pretty decent overall machine.
I can do the job in no time at all now.
Like alot of bikes, the GW is sorely lacking when it comes to brakes and suspension, but the base Honda has created, along with a strong aftermarket, will make for a great bike once these are corrected.
As for the CBX's rear shock, talk to RaceTech, or Traxxion Dynamics, it will make a big difference.

 

[CallieWilkinso]

Bags are easy. Tank is a biotch.

192.168.100.1 192.168.1.1​

 

[TallTom]

Not really GoldWing perse. But I bought this to pull behind it. So it's sort of porn for the porn.

Meet a Quicksilver 2.0 motorcycle camper.

Has A/C not shown in pic. Has 12V piped into the interior space. Has a spot to put in a little refer on the tongue so you can avoid ice in coolers and keep your food cold for as long as you want. And a mount for a little generator to run the A/C.

Full Queen size bed.

I'm 6'6" and I can stand up in it.

I thinks it called glamping.

Needs a little love. But minor stuff.