Finally, Greta Thunberg is Given a Reality Check!

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This opinion piece by Australian journo Alan Jones is so on point with the likes of young Greta it is heart warming to see!
Thank God for the older generation that is able to see thru all the BS and indoctrination fed to the young ones at school, through the social media that they are so addicted to, and through the main stream media garbage and twisted half truths that are force fed to the majority of 'sleeping' human beings every day.
to those that have ears to hear . . . enjoy .
 
Anyone believe
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in reincarnation?
 
I’ll be the the doom sayer here, it is unfortunate that Greta is so aggressive and more unfortunate that she is actually correct.

I had a 40 year career, flying all over the globe and 40 years ago, I could not help but notice the color of the horizons when approaching major airports from pollution. Today one does not even have to be close to major cities to notice the pollution from 30,000 feet above land.

Lived in Fresno California for 6 years. Kind of the armpit of CA, and the pollution settling in the valley was very noticeable. One cannot ignore the facts, the average rate of asthma in CA kids up to 17 years old is around 7%, in Fresno it is above 20%.

So hate me for saying this, as I believe the Human race has overpopulated this planet and their activities are not sustainable regarding Mother Nature. We will either get smart with green energy and how we live, grow our food with hydroponics using a fraction of the land and water needed, or nature will take control.
Humans are not good at looking forward past 3 years. Those who just got lucky with grandchildren need to look at least 80 years ahead and look 100 years back, to see the exponential changes we have created on earth.

ignoring the signs is both selfish and irresponsible.

Flame me, it’s OK, I can handle it.
 
jellyrug said:
I’ll be the the doom sayer here, it is unfortunate that Greta is so aggressive and more unfortunate that she is actually correct.

I had a 40 year career, flying all over the globe and 40 years ago, I could not help but notice the color of the horizons when approaching major airports from pollution. Today one does not even have to be close to major cities to notice the pollution from 30,000 feet above land.

Lived in Fresno California for 6 years. Kind of the armpit of CA, and the pollution settling in the valley was very noticeable. One cannot ignore the facts, the average rate of asthma in CA kids up to 17 years old is around 7%, in Fresno it is above 20%.

So hate me for saying this, as I believe the Human race has overpopulated this planet and their activities are not sustainable regarding Mother Nature. We will either get smart with green energy and how we live, grow our food with hydroponics using a fraction of the land and water needed, or nature will take control.
Humans are not good at looking forward past 3 years. Those who just got lucky with grandchildren need to look at least 80 years ahead and look 100 years back, to see the exponential changes we have created on earth.

ignoring the signs is both selfish and irresponsible.

Flame me, it’s OK, I can handle it.
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No flaming here because you are bang on...!!
 
Perhaps just a bit of background on my perspective.

In the year 1850 there was a politician who had the foresight to fence off natural unspoiled land in South Africa about half the size of the Netherlands, close to 8,000 square miles. It has remained that way still today, allowing only tourism entry.

Once a year, two of us would take a tourist group of 12 on a hike from camp to camp for 7 days. Most from Europe, sometimes a couple of Americans. My associate would be in front, speaking broken English, fluent in at least 3 African languages. I would take the back, as his tracking ability was superior. I would carry normally a 338 Winchester Mag for safety. Had to use it a few times only to scare something away.

So, we walked among the Africa Lion, understood it, respected it. Same goes for all the animals who still live the way they did before man changed the earth. It was being in heaven, absolutely the best times of my life. Today I still have friends all over the world who I met as visiting tourists and occasionally they still send pictures of pleasant memories.

That experience unfortunately makes one realize how selfish mankind is, by destroying wild life and creating an environment only for himself to enjoy. Today in the United States, there is nothing even close to the beauty it possessed 100 years ago. We have claimed it for ourselves and were arrogant enough to destroy most everything else.
 
jellyrug said:
...I had a 40 year career, flying all over the globe and 40 years ago, I could not help but notice the color of the horizons when approaching major airports from pollution. Today one does not even have to be close to major cities to notice the pollution from 30,000 feet above land.



So hate me for saying this, as I believe the Human race has overpopulated this planet...
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jellyrug said:
In the year 1850 there was a politician who had the foresight to fence off natural unspoiled land in South Africa about half the size of the Netherlands, close to 8,000 square miles. It has remained that way still today, allowing only tourism entry.

Once a year, two of us would take a tourist group of 12 on a hike from camp to camp for 7 days. Most from Europe, sometimes a couple of Americans. My associate would be in front, speaking broken English, fluent in at least 3 African languages. I would take the back, as his tracking ability was superior. I would carry normally a 338 Winchester Mag for safety. Had to use it a few times only to scare something away.

So, we walked among the Africa Lion, understood it, respected it. Same goes for all the animals who still live the way they did before man changed the earth. It was being in heaven, absolutely the best times of my life. Today I still have friends all over the world who I met as visiting tourists and occasionally they still send pictures of pleasant memories.

That experience unfortunately makes one realize how selfish mankind is, by destroying wild life and creating an environment only for himself to enjoy. Today in the United States, there is nothing even close to the beauty it possessed 100 years ago. We have claimed it for ourselves and were arrogant enough to destroy most everything else.
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Wow, talk about projecting and cognitive dissonance.

So you spent 40 years "flying all over the globe" and now want to lecture others about why there is pollution 30,000ft above land where according to you there wasn't before? Your disconnect here is amazing. But I guess you profited from your career so others can now bugger off and find a different way to make a living while you pat yourself on the back as virtuous for now having the right opinion.

Then you went on African safaris, trekking through the parks in large groups and gripe about man having destroyed it by creating things for him to enjoy, like you did, on safari. This has got to be satire, but given the world we now live in I can no longer tell.

And then for the finally you trot out the "human race has over populated this planet" trope. Let me guess, you'll exempt yourself from the only solution to that problem and it will be others whore required to depopulate the planet, after you thoroughly enjoyed and profited from it if course...
 
justintime2 said:
Wow, talk about projecting and cognitive dissonance.

So you spent 40 years "flying all over the globe" and now want to lecture others about why there is pollution 30,000ft above land where according to you there wasn't before? Your disconnect here is amazing. But I guess you profited from your career so others can now bugger off and find a different way to make a living while you pat yourself on the back as virtuous for now having the right opinion.

Then you went on African safaris, trekking through the parks in large groups and gripe about man having destroyed it by creating things for him to enjoy, like you did, on safari. This has got to be satire, but given the world we now live in I can no longer tell.

And then for the finally you trot out the "human race has over populated this planet" trope. Let me guess, you'll exempt yourself from the only solution to that problem and it will be others whore required to depopulate the planet, after you thoroughly enjoyed and profited from it if course...
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Actually, I did not go on safari, I lived there for more than half my life and did time as a voluntary game ranger, contributing towards nature and the support thereof at my own expense. Further I led a group towards trying to stop trophy hunting, with many hunters from the US, probably folks like you who love killing for pleasure.

As far as my career, yes, there was a lot of international business involving a lot of travel. If you believe that is something we can stop in the near future and disrespect it, good luck.

We all profit from the planet, the key is to endeavor towards a scenario where the planet also profits.

You appear to be all about you, why not rather tell us of your contribution now, perhaps there is none?

I would be pleased to share my contribution with you, but my guess is you are so self centered that it would be of no interest to you.
 
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jellyrug said:
Perhaps just a bit of background on my perspective.

In the year 1850 there was a politician who had the foresight to fence off natural unspoiled land in South Africa about half the size of the Netherlands, close to 8,000 square miles. It has remained that way still today, allowing only tourism entry.

Once a year, two of us would take a tourist group of 12 on a hike from camp to camp for 7 days. Most from Europe, sometimes a couple of Americans. My associate would be in front, speaking broken English, fluent in at least 3 African languages. I would take the back, as his tracking ability was superior. I would carry normally a 338 Winchester Mag for safety. Had to use it a few times only to scare something away.

So, we walked among the Africa Lion, understood it, respected it. Same goes for all the animals who still live the way they did before man changed the earth. It was being in heaven, absolutely the best times of my life. Today I still have friends all over the world who I met as visiting tourists and occasionally they still send pictures of pleasant memories.

That experience unfortunately makes one realize how selfish mankind is, by destroying wild life and creating an environment only for himself to enjoy. Today in the United States, there is nothing even close to the beauty it possessed 100 years ago. We have claimed it for ourselves and were arrogant enough to destroy most everything else.
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I watched a documentary on that game reserve not too long ago...it was very interesting.

I grew up on a beef farm and we strove very hard to balance nature and our operations. My father was big into making sure we properly managed the forests, wild and domestic animals and our crops so they all balanced out.

Then I joined the military and learned what a huge carbon foot print was...nothing makes a mess like a modern military on operations...it is getting better but when I joined environmental appreciation was not a reality..

Years later I was in Spec Ops and we actually had an environmental impact analysis we would go through before ops. We would enter other countries in a covert or overt manner and the two were very far apart in how the environment and people were impacted.

Now that I'm and old retired guy, I find myself drawing more and more to nature and looking after what I can within my small realm...I plant more trees and plants then ever before, we even went to far as to rescue some property and reinstate it back to what it was by remediating it and then planting all the trees and fauna that were there before...

Long story short-this young lady (Greta) is very passionate-almost too passionate and she's not alone out there....people such as her will be inheriting the earth so I guess that's not a real bad thing to have this passion...
 
Bumblebee said:
I watched a documentary on that game reserve not too long ago...it was very interesting.

I grew up on a beef farm and we strove very hard to balance nature and our operations. My father was big into making sure we properly managed the forests, wild and domestic animals and our crops so they all balanced out.

Then I joined the military and learned what a huge carbon foot print was...nothing makes a mess like a modern military on operations...it is getting better but when I joined environmental appreciation was not a reality..

Years later I was in Spec Ops and we actually had an environmental impact analysis we would go through before ops. We would enter other countries in a covert or overt manner and the two were very far apart in how the environment and people were impacted.

Now that I'm and old retired guy, I find myself drawing more and more to nature and looking after what I can within my small realm...I plant more trees and plants then ever before, we even went to far as to rescue some property and reinstate it back to what it was by remediating it and then planting all the trees and fauna that were there before...

Long story short-this young lady (Greta) is very passionate-almost too passionate and she's not alone out there....people such as her will be inheriting the earth so I guess that's not a real bad thing to have this passion...
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That is great!!!

We live on large acreage, naturally heavily wooded, which we try and keep unspoiled as well as restore part of the natural Notth Carolina long leaf pine growth. I am no match for Tim Sweeney and his wealth, but he is my neighbor with 15,000 acres bordering my property, we try and do the same thing though.

You can read about him in the link below.

 
jellyrug said:
That is great!!!

We live on large acreage, naturally heavily wooded, which we try and keep unspoiled as well as restore part of the natural Notth Carolina long leaf pine growth. I am no match for Tim Sweeney and his wealth, but he is my neighbor with 15,000 acres bordering my property, we try and do the same thing though.

You can read about him in the link below.

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Wow, we need more people like him.....that would be awesome to have the ability and means to do what he has done...that's quite a neighbor to have and I'll bet he is a real down to earth kind of guy.

The only thig that threw me off is China owning 40% of his company.....China as a country is the polar opposite of conservation...
 
Bumblebee said:
Wow, we need more people like him.....that would be awesome to have the ability and means to do what he has done...that's quite a neighbor to have and I'll bet he is a real down to earth kind of guy.

The only thig that threw me off is China owning 40% of his company.....China as a country is the polar opposite of conservation...
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Yep, I am not a fan of China.
 
jellyrug said:
Yep, I am not a fan of China.
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I never was myself...

I just can't get over how we pander to that country after all the crap it has shelled out over the years....it supported North Korea over the allies, it supported North Viet Nam over the US even after the Allies bailed them out during WW2...

They have no environmental policy, no human rights policy and their political ideology is questionable at best....

My buddy explained that the world stock market is slowly waning away from Chinese companies in favor of other international companies...

He said in the meantime people should stop buying Chinese made products but in reality each and every store's inventory is almost entirely made up of Chinese made goods....

But, of course I digress as this is nothing unknown to us all....

People like young Greta can't rattle a saber at countries like China as she'd quietly disappear...that's probably why she is doing this to western countries as we will listen at least.
 
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Interesting times, China now has its own space station and recently successfully launched it’s own astronauts to visit it. They also have a rover on Mars. The race for global dominance is on.

I would expect at some point as their domestic consumption increases, they may experience more issues with internal acceptance of socialism. Hong Kong and Taiwan remain a problem for the regime.
 
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