2024 LE at Moore Mafias

dcnblues said:
aaaaaaaand then he recovered. And now he knows exactly what it feels like to lose it. Aaaaaaaand that might help a great deal on the street.

There are wheelie machines All Over the U.S.
You say you fly, so it shouldn't be hard to find one.
Go try one.
Then try one on your Gen3.
Then report back here...
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dcnblues said:
Nobody seems to read what I actually write or click on the links I provide.
I will repeat that I don't think at 150 or more you can have a mid-level wheelie two feet off the ground or more. So I don't know whether people agree that wheelies get shorter with speed over 120 or not?
I very much doubt the same kind of Rapid throttle movements and rear brake engagements are used by the few guys doing the 2-inch 200 mph wheelies. With that much wind it would be minute body and weight shifts with a constant throttle.
I've also been repeatedly criticized for talking about things that I don't have experience with. So let's see hands in the air from people who've actually been on the wheelie machine?
If it comes to California and doesn't cost too much I'd like to try it. And I might buy a cheap used wheelchair, as being able to hold the balance point on one is excellent and relevant practice, advice given to me by the guy who can ride a motorcycle standing backwards on it, better credentials than anyone on this forum. Any replies screaming at me that I have no idea what I'm talking about I probably won't pay much attention to. People have been both putting words in my mouth and not understanding the points I'm making, so this thread has pretty much lost my interest.
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I HAVE tried wheelie machines.
And, your words are posted here, by You, for Everyone to read...
You can repeat what you "think or belive" all day...but until you have actually done it, and repeatedly and consistantly(aquire the skill)...then you Truly Cannot say.
Opinions are fine, but experience is what counts.
 
dcnblues said:
aaaaaaaand then he recovered. And now he knows exactly what it feels like to lose it. Aaaaaaaand that might help a great deal on the street.
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I don't place much truck in simulated things...

I believe this is only a step in the wheelie school and they graduate people to real bikes...in this case it makes sense.

I know I've never done such a thing yet have never crashed while doing a wheelie-I learned from doing...

The way I look at it, everything is teachable and if you are interested in doing this, my advice is to go do it and not worry about what anyone says.

You mentioned you are a pilot, I don't know what level of pilot you are but all the military pilots I have known spend time in a simulator and some of that transfers to real life.
 
Dai. said:
Can we get back to how the Gen 3 with carbon wheels is the best handling bike in the world or some poop.
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Agree, I didn't know that hayabusa.org had a lot of Evil knivels riders with stunts and wheelie experience. all that stuff related to wheelie machines,who has the record doing the fastest wheelie record is out of context, no related to the actual subject .
 
sixpack577 said:
I HAVE tried wheelie machines.
And, your words are posted here, by You, for Everyone to read...
You can repeat what you "think or belive" all day...but until you have actually done it, and repeatedly and consistantly(aquire the skill)...then you Truly Cannot say.
Opinions are fine, but experience is what counts.
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We were typing at the same time but I posted after with a similar message to just do the simulator and experience what it does then transfer that to the actual bike...
 
Fernando said:
Agree, I didn't know that hayabusa.org had a lot of Evil knivels riders with stunts and wheelie experience. all that stuff related to wheelie machines,who has the record doing the fastest wheelie record is out of context, no related to the actual subject .
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This is how most of our threads go......start one topic and progress to several all in the same thread...

At least Trump or Chauvin haven't been mentioned.........yet.......LOL!
 
Fernando said:
Agree, I didn't know that hayabusa.org had a lot of Evil knivels riders with stunts and wheelie experience. all that stuff related to wheelie machines,who has the record doing the fastest wheelie record is out of context, no related to the actual subject .
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Topics wander on all the threads here.
And that tends to drag on when people are disrespectful(not yall).
 
ROADTOAD1340 said:
Well , that is a good start , it is great fun making the bike your own . A lot of good Gen 3 bikes being updated , just like all the Hayabusa Gens before , a very solid history you are all adding too . I would probably take a little time to update yourself on any bike stats before posting , just because that is best place to start from in a conversation . Cheers
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Came across this. It was the ZX-14R I was thinking of, not the Concours, when it got the displacement bump in 2011. So my impression that it was 30 lb heavier stock than a 550 lb Busa was largely correct. Over the last 13 years the Hayabusa put on weight, and the Kawasaki didn't.
Even with its hefty 584-pound wet weight and 58-inch wheelbase, the ZX-14R will easily go vertical with the front tire in the first two gears with just the throttle (provided the traction control is turned off—more on that later), and third gear wheelies require little effort. 2012 Kawasaki ZX-14R First Ride: The new King cometh
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Yes , the Gen 1 Busa was lighter than Gen 2 Busa , and the Gen 2 ZX14R ABS equipped is heavier again . The US (only) market had a 2012 1441CC ZX14R option of no ABS , that model would be lightest ZX14R model .
 
Bumblebee said:
I was out this morning and ran into someone I know who has a few bikes and is kind of a "connoisseur" when it comes to bikes...

He said he went to look at a 25th anniversary Hayabusa but said the Gen 3 is the epidemy of a company that has given up....he said Suzuki used to be the leader of the hyperbike segment and their latest entry into the fray is heavy, underpowered and full of issues...and Suzuki could have made a world contender very easily but cheaped out with the Gen 3. He did say it looks nice on the showroom floor though......

He also said he can't understand why Hayabusa nuts we are so brand loyal to it.

I told him it's not what the bike is, it's what it can become in the right hands and for the rest of us, it's just a comfortable ride anywhere kind of bike that is forgiving and dangerous all at the same time...

He said his latest bike is a carbon H2 which he spent a bunch of aftermarket money on...so I let him know about @ROADTOAD1340 's latest bike and I wouldn't be surprised if he joins this site just to talk to the 'toad.

Then we can all gang up on him in proper fashion....:lol:
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Agree..Also I don't know about you guys but when I started looking at motorcycles ,out of all the brands I checked out,I liked the Suzuki engine sound even stock.
 
KPJ132716 said:
Agree..Also I don't know about you guys but when I started looking at motorcycles ,out of all the brands I checked out,I liked the Suzuki engine sound even stock.
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All Hayabusas have that certain angry growl they are known for......
 
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