AR enthusiasts......What do you think of DPMS lowers?
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lol, there's no recoil in an AR. the only reason to have it threaded is for a flash hider or can.
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You now I always heard that and was surprised to find out how untrue it really was when I got my AR. There is recoil and it is coming from the bolt slamming back into the recoil spring in the buffer tube. I have seen guys shooting their AR with the camera pointed through the optics on youtube and that thing is all over the place. To say they have no recoil is incorrect as they just have less than most rifles due to the particular round they fire just like the AK74 5.45x39 has very light recoil vs the AK47.
What do you guys think about this new anti sniper suit if found on the web?
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anyhting less than 16" will have a fixed brake/flash suppresor making it the full 16". although it may be threaded it has to be perm attached or it will be a sbr, and illegal unless you register as so.
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Yeah! I know about anything less than 16 must have permanent flash hider in which most cases it is brazed or tack welded on. Other than that I have seen most all 16"+ AR barrels come with threaded barrels less the bull barrels.
So what's a register SBR?
you register your lower on form 4 as a short barreled rifle. then you can pin up a < 16" barrel.
it's a pain in the arse if you want my 2cents. unless you plan on adding a sound suppresor its really a waste of money. if you wanna backyard e-commando and say you need it for survival. just keep a short upper around and dont get caught with it pinned.
it's a pain in the arse if you want my 2cents. unless you plan on adding a sound suppresor its really a waste of money. if you wanna backyard e-commando and say you need it for survival. just keep a short upper around and dont get caught with it pinned.
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not all are just brazed/tack welded. alot have been pressed or pinned.
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Yeah! I was just messing with ya. I filed out my form 1 back in March and it was finally approved around September or so. It is not as bad as you might think aside from the wait. One of the most important things about the whole process is having the form signed off by local official. Good thing for us our Sheriff is a pretty cool guy. I do plan on getting a suppressor next! Now the big waste is machine gun tax stamps because the ammo will cost near as much or more than the rifle in the long haul!
I don't think pinned or pressed will cut it in the BTAFE book. Did you know they have a "once a machine gun always a machine gun" law? It pretty much says you can not convert a machine gun receiver to semi auto even if you pin the sear pin hole or fill it with weld because it is still said to have the ability to be returned to full auto config. I am surprised they allowed the tack weld and braze option as far as long flash hiders on short barrels. I am even more surprised they allowed the AK pistol config with the original hand guards in place but it is some sort of gray area involved that makes them legal like AR pistols.
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Below is the exact wording from the NFA handbook. I copied and pasted it. I guess you can pin the muzzle device on but you still have to weld it in!
The ATF procedure for measuring barrel length is to measure from the closed bolt (or breech-face) to the furthermost end of the barrel or permanently attached muzzle device. Permanent methods of attachment include full-fusion gas or electric steel-seam welding, high-temperature (1100°F) silver soldering, or blind pinning with the pin head welded over. Barrels are measured by inserting a dowel rod into the barrel until the rod stops against the bolt or breech-face. The rod is then marked at the furthermost end of the barrel or permanently attached muzzle device, withdrawn from the barrel, and measured.
The ATF procedure for measuring barrel length is to measure from the closed bolt (or breech-face) to the furthermost end of the barrel or permanently attached muzzle device. Permanent methods of attachment include full-fusion gas or electric steel-seam welding, high-temperature (1100°F) silver soldering, or blind pinning with the pin head welded over. Barrels are measured by inserting a dowel rod into the barrel until the rod stops against the bolt or breech-face. The rod is then marked at the furthermost end of the barrel or permanently attached muzzle device, withdrawn from the barrel, and measured.
pita for forfeiting your privacy. you must maintian possesion and transfer under nfa from now on on that receiver. whats the point of a non silenced sbr. none. its loud as all get out and shoots worse.
seems like you got it all figure out. but what i was getting at. the pinned one isnt welded AA at muzzle the pin is ground flush and welded... bushmaster has done pressed ones for years. the barrels are not even threaded beneath. i cant find the exact page on nfa but it states something to the effect of cannot be removed by hand tools.
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pita for forfeiting your privacy. you must maintian possesion and transfer under nfa from now on on that receiver. whats the point of a non silenced sbr. none. its loud as all get out and shoots worse.
seems like you got it all figure out. but what i was getting at. the pinned one isnt welded AA at muzzle the pin is ground flush and welded... bushmaster has done pressed ones for years. the barrels are not even threaded beneath. i cant find the exact page on nfa but it states something to the effect of cannot be removed by hand tools.
Privacy! What's privacy? You forgot about what kind of society you live in here have you. Your information floats around in cyberspace 24/7. There is no hiding nowadays. Just may as well enjoy it while you are here. I got the short barrel config because it was something I always wanted vs pistol version because it is just too cool plus easier to handle in doors. I am kind of hesitant about the silencer because the sound is still pretty loud and if you use subsonic ammo it will just slow down your round.
I don't know about how bushmaster has done their muzzle devices but I do know that ever once and a while there is a recall on some firearms for NFA violation for instance the MAC90 imported by the company out of NY that was a machine gun receiver converted to semiauto with pinned sear holes. That company lost their FFL and now the only thing they can sell is air rifles and paint ball guns. Century Arms International had a incident with their PSL-54C Dragunov type rifles because of the same law. The had a recall on those particular rifles and if you go to their web site they have a listing of them I believe if it is still there.
now, you could make it into a pistol, then no registration is necessary with a barrel length of less than 16 inches.
has to be registered as a pistol. cant just put short buffer bolt and etc in and say its a pistol.
why do you need to handle a high powered rifle indoors? in case the taliban comes to take your plasma
?im talking about the transport, and submit to search that comes with owning an nfa weapon. thats a big compromise if you ask me for no reason. its a violation of privacy. but i dont get into that debate and wont because opinions are like well you know what i mean, and at the end of the day what can you do about it. nothing.
good luck happy shooting safe riding.
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Yeah! Them damn terrorist! Try and take my plasma will ya.
Back when I was about 12 or 13 years old my next to oldest brother and I were coming home from the barber shop. He was about 16 or 17 at the time. We were in a Chevy Chevette and made it about a mile and a half from the house when we came to a road block. One of the officers told my brother to pull to the side and they told us to step out of the car and put our hands on the side of the car while they searched our body and vehicle. They did not ask if they could search just did. So the part about rights go right out the window. I don't really care about that nowadays. Just part of being Black in America I guess!
Back when I was about 12 or 13 years old my next to oldest brother and I were coming home from the barber shop. He was about 16 or 17 at the time. We were in a Chevy Chevette and made it about a mile and a half from the house when we came to a road block. One of the officers told my brother to pull to the side and they told us to step out of the car and put our hands on the side of the car while they searched our body and vehicle. They did not ask if they could search just did. So the part about rights go right out the window. I don't really care about that nowadays. Just part of being Black in America I guess!
talking to my brother who is a ex ranger....not a "back when i was a ranger bull****ter" he is thinking i would be better off away from the 223 5.56 and mabey look into the 6.8 spc or 7.62 round since the AR's can be built now with those rounds. he said the muzzel velocity and range are considerablty better.
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6.8 ammo is too uncommon, hard to find and expensive but if that is your cup of tea go with it. 7.62 would be good but you would have to have a lower that would have a mag well designed for the 7.62 unless you are talking about the 7.62x39 then you may as well get 2 ak47s because that is about what it would cost for the conversion.
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