Berkeley Co. Deputies Release Dash Cam Video In Fatal Motorcycle Pursuit

read the insulting stuff he says... iks kinda like a white guy who says things like "I'm not racist BUT.... u fill in the rest... its cleverly disguised double talk.... he say "Brave men and women do this job but they're not correcting anyone and they're not cops." how would he know? we have to qualify every year with weapons.... go to an academy... I carry a weapon on my badge... The term "peace officer" is used to describe anyone who has statutory law enforcement powers. The term police officer is used to describe a peace officer who work for a police agency. That being said, a police officer, deputy sheriff, state trooper, or constable are all peace officers.
 
CBXRider said:
So 70% of crime in Florida is solved with the direct help of parole officers eh? That says a lot about Florida cops if that's true but extremely doubtful. Where'd you get that figure, from a parole officer? No warehousing you say? What's corrective about Florida's Corrections facilities? The recidivism rate is sky high everywhere. This country houses more prisoners than anywhere in the world. You have 146 prisons in Florida no matter what the sign says out front.
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Nope not just Florida, Look up New York and read their stats
 
You have 146 prisons in Florida no matter what the sign says out front.[/QUOTE]


And the the incarceration level you rail against is a product of the judicial system NOT the prison system. All manner of criminals (hard core to people that shouldn't even be there) to just the mentally ill are thrown into the system giving people like Ali123 an impossible task to do all the while getting nothing but snide remarks from people like you that I normally find interesting and informative.
 
Okay, back to the regularly scheduled thread . . .

Had three chases over a period of about ten days in my local town. The bike wasn't insured or registered, the plate on it was from my other bike, so I kinda had to run or my bike would have gotten impounded, and the impound yard is notorious for leaving stuff outside and holding your stuff forever. So, twisting the wrist was the answer at the time. Ran from the po-po one day, put some distance between me and him and dived into a local unknown (to me) neighborhood, where I arbitrarily ran up someone's driveway and right into their back yard. Luckily, no one was home. I took off my leather and helmet, walked to the street looking all innocent, and made my way to a phone where I called a friend with a van. He arrived, we loaded it up, got safely home, end of adventure. Or so I thought.

Decided to get the bike properly registered and insured, brand new plate, inspection, ready to go.
FIRST night out : I pull up to a red light on a four lane road and stop. All of a sudden, a cop car pulls up directly behind me, another pulls up on my right, another pulls up on my left. I look both ways, and decide I'm gonna run. The light turns green, I crack the throttle to take off, and the throttle cable BREAKS! I roll over to the side of the road, all compliant, get off, present my license and watch as one cop looks over my bike and the other two argue about my bike being the bike they have been trying to catch all week. But the plate was different . . . did I just buy the bike? YES is it fast? I DON'T KNOW, JUST GOT IT . . . they decide they have to let me go, they can't pin anything on me. So I called my friend with the van again, lol.

And that was the only time I got caught! :lol:
 
I know a lot more about prisons than I want to know. A firm I worked for were/are prison experts and we did a lot of them. I only worked on 2 but that was more than enough.

Anyway, I have had 2 run ins with the po po as an adult:

First I was going around 120 mph on my hopped up Bandit 1250 on the lonely backroads of Pungo (Virginia Beach). Zipped right past a cop who was in a place I have never seen a cop before. He was stopped but lit me up. I never "run" and i stopped. When he got to me first thing out of his mouth was "why did you stop?" I said "because you lit me up." He started LHAO and said "That's the first time I've heard that excuse." He ran my license and registration. Walked back to the bike and looked it over and asked "what is this I been looking for something like this." I told him it was a Bandit 1250 and it had a lot of mods on the suspension and engine. He just said "very good" and handed me my info and said "have a good day and slow down."

Next time I was with some buddies and we ride the back roads pretty hard. He rides the Ducati you may have seen in some of my posts and is my track day buddy. We crested a hill in the middle of nowhere doing about 100 mph laid over and hanging off the seat knees skinning the grass on the shoulder of the road. All of a sudden my radar started screaming at me and I started yelling into the SENA "Cops Cops Cops!" He said I was like a wild weasel calling back a SAM launch. no way to slow down so we just hit it. My buddy said I held that power wheelie for 100 yards - left a big black mark on the road. Cop didn't turn around. As is customary they just light you up on this road to say slow down. It's pretty deserted save the occasional farm tractor moving to another field and I'm sure they don't care if we kill ourselves on it. This guy must have been going home or looking for some squids that were really asking for trouble. Anyway behind us was the third guy on his Honda CB750. Before you think that, it is a charming bike that he made himself from a pile of junk. Well he panicked when he saw the cop and crossed the line and the cop had to run off the road to miss him! Making it worse he was riding dirty. Cop was super cool and just gave him a speeding ticket for 5 over. I went back to check on him because he only had his learners permit. I didn't stop because I would shoot me if I rode up on a cop making a stop.

We used to run all the time on our dirt bikes and mini bikes. Cops would just break off and go to our houses because they knew who we were. On one run the cop forgot about the ditch in this field we would jump because the cars couldn't cross. He noised the car into the ditch and totaled it. We had to go back and see if he was ok, he wasn't too bad but had to go to the hospital. Our parents made us visit the guy in the hospital and apologize, then my Dad took my Suzuki TM125 and sold it. That was the last bike my parents ever bought me, Lol!.
 
fallenarch said:
I know a lot more about prisons than I want to know. A firm I worked for were/are prison experts and we did a lot of them. I only worked on 2 but that was more than enough.

Anyway, I have had 2 run ins with the po po as an adult:

First I was going around 120 mph on my hopped up Bandit 1250 on the lonely backroads of Pungo (Virginia Beach). Zipped right past a cop who was in a place I have never seen a cop before. He was stopped but lit me up. I never "run" and i stopped. When he got to me first thing out of his mouth was "why did you stop?" I said "because you lit me up." He started LHAO and said "That's the first time I've heard that excuse." He ran my license and registration. Walked back to the bike and looked it over and asked "what is this I been looking for something like this." I told him it was a Bandit 1250 and it had a lot of mods on the suspension and engine. He just said "very good" and handed me my info and said "have a good day and slow down."

Next time I was with some buddies and we ride the back roads pretty hard. He rides the Ducati you may have seen in some of my posts and is my track day buddy. We crested a hill in the middle of nowhere doing about 100 mph laid over and hanging off the seat knees skinning the grass on the shoulder of the road. All of a sudden my radar started screaming at me and I started yelling into the SENA "Cops Cops Cops!" He said I was like a wild weasel calling back a SAM launch. no way to slow down so we just hit it. My buddy said I held that power wheelie for 100 yards - left a big black mark on the road. Cop didn't turn around. As is customary they just light you up on this road to say slow down. It's pretty deserted save the occasional farm tractor moving to another field and I'm sure they don't care if we kill ourselves on it. This guy must have been going home or looking for some squids that were really asking for trouble. Anyway behind us was the third guy on his Honda CB750. Before you think that, it is a charming bike that he made himself from a pile of junk. Well he panicked when he saw the cop and crossed the line and the cop had to run off the road to miss him! Making it worse he was riding dirty. Cop was super cool and just gave him a speeding ticket for 5 over. I went back to check on him because he only had his learners permit. I didn't stop because I would shoot me if I rode up on a cop making a stop.

We used to run all the time on our dirt bikes and mini bikes. Cops would just break off and go to our houses because they knew who we were. On one run the cop forgot about the ditch in this field we would jump because the cars couldn't cross. He noised the car into the ditch and totaled it. We had to go back and see if he was ok, he wasn't too bad but had to go to the hospital. Our parents made us visit the guy in the hospital and apologize, then my Dad took my Suzuki TM125 and sold it. That was the last bike my parents ever bought me, Lol!.
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if ure firm designs prisons.. I wanna know why there are places where these guys can HANG themselves from??????? this has caused me much anguish.
 
ali123 said:
if ure firm designs prisons.. I wanna know why there are places where these guys can HANG themselves from??????? this has caused me much anguish.
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Former firm. People think inmates are stupid and that is not the case. Basically they will figure out how to defeat anything you do because they focus on it 24/7. When I was working on prisons (20 years ago) the big thing was not creating guard traps. At the time there was a lot of electronic technology coming into play but most prisons were designed/built on the cheap. Anytime you go from concrete or CMU to metal there is an opportunity to slip a sheet between them, tie a knot and potentially hang yourself. It's hard and expensive to make a 100% suicide proof detention facility. If I'm being totally honest, this was a low priority in the designs at the time. Due to over crowding, our primary concern was not getting a bunch of guards trapped where they could not get to them without massive deaths. I'm not a prison design expert by any stretch, and it is a very quickly evolving design environment so what I knew 20 years ago is probably old news today. I will say that even 20 years ago prisons represented sometime 100 or more years of design thinking because they don't update them that often. So the new buildings we did were pretty safe, some of the older stuff that was renovated to pack as many people in as possible was down right scary.
 
fallenarch said:
Former firm. People think inmates are stupid and that is not the case. Basically they will figure out how to defeat anything you do because they focus on it 24/7. When I was working on prisons (20 years ago) the big thing was not creating guard traps. At the time there was a lot of electronic technology coming into play but most prisons were designed/built on the cheap. Anytime you go from concrete or CMU to metal there is an opportunity to slip a sheet between them, tie a knot and potentially hang yourself. It's hard and expensive to make a 100% suicide proof detention facility. If I'm being totally honest, this was a low priority in the designs at the time. Due to over crowding, our primary concern was not getting a bunch of guards trapped where they could not get to them without massive deaths. I'm not a prison design expert by any stretch, and it is a very quickly evolving design environment so what I knew 20 years ago is probably old news today. I will say that even 20 years ago prisons represented sometime 100 or more years of design thinking because they don't update them that often. So the new buildings we did were pretty safe, some of the older stuff that was renovated to pack as many people in as possible was down right scary.
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I'm glad that the electronic technology still hasn't touched us very much... there are only cameras in Intake and reception... none anywhere else:) I hate people watching what I'm doing... the liberals don't want us swearing at the poor inmates..
 
POWERHOUSE said:
Okay, back to the regularly scheduled thread . . .

Had three chases over a period of about ten days in my local town. The bike wasn't insured or registered, the plate on it was from my other bike, so I kinda had to run or my bike would have gotten impounded, and the impound yard is notorious for leaving stuff outside and holding your stuff forever. So, twisting the wrist was the answer at the time. Ran from the po-po one day, put some distance between me and him and dived into a local unknown (to me) neighborhood, where I arbitrarily ran up someone's driveway and right into their back yard. Luckily, no one was home. I took off my leather and helmet, walked to the street looking all innocent, and made my way to a phone where I called a friend with a van. He arrived, we loaded it up, got safely home, end of adventure. Or so I thought.

Decided to get the bike properly registered and insured, brand new plate, inspection, ready to go.
FIRST night out : I pull up to a red light on a four lane road and stop. All of a sudden, a cop car pulls up directly behind me, another pulls up on my right, another pulls up on my left. I look both ways, and decide I'm gonna run. The light turns green, I crack the throttle to take off, and the throttle cable BREAKS! I roll over to the side of the road, all compliant, get off, present my license and watch as one cop looks over my bike and the other two argue about my bike being the bike they have been trying to catch all week. But the plate was different . . . did I just buy the bike? YES is it fast? I DON'T KNOW, JUST GOT IT . . . they decide they have to let me go, they can't pin anything on me. So I called my friend with the van again, lol.

And that was the only time I got caught! :lol:
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U missed ure calling frank... u coulda been a great bank robber.. all u need is a big gun and a bike that's crazy quick.
 
There was some cool stuff that wasn't just a "second set of eyes" that would result in a guard beating an inmate showing up on YouTube (out of context of course). Like biometrics that allowed guards to know who was where in the prison at all times. Or airport style scanning that prisoners walked through when going into groups and coming out of them. Advanced motion detectors, and pretty crazy snooping technology (audio and smell). Of course all of this was crazy expensive but some extremely high security installations were doing some of it. We never got a job like that but I hear that some of the Top Secret government installations were amazing.
 
sing sing / Greenhaven/ attica/ downstate.. all these Max facilities are as they were in the 60s and 70s... no cameras even.. just in select places.
 
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