Beware of pwall97, he is a scammer
- Thread starter Kos
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It's only been a week ....... what ? 
It's only been a week ....... what ?
Reading through this post/thread I can see that pwall97 has agreed to send the engine originally...then that changed and then he was going to deposit the money and now too much time has passed in my opinion...
It doesn't take very long to process a money transfer (no matter which method you use)...unless you don't have the money or you never intend on returning the money.....
Sorry to say but things look very disappointing for our friend Kos. ???
ok u guys heres the story...since u guys seem to think am scaming this guy he sent me the money friday,by monday mouring he started calling me and bashing me saying i have not sent the engine does he know it takes more then 3 days for someone that works to crate and ship a engine????from florida to aus?? after i payed the shipping company to come from miami to orlando 450 dollars to pick engine up to go to port of miami he says he wants his money bank fine here i will give you your money back no problem am eat the 450 dollars now he wants his money westerunion i told him am not going to eat another 120 dollars in fees i can wire transfer u the money same way u sent it to me or i can send u a certified check from my bank whice will cost me no fees with my credit union..now hes saying am call the cops fine go ahed now i have emails i sent him asking him how do u want your money wired transferd to u or in certified check now this guy no no i want my money in westernunion well am not going to eat another 120 dollars in fees and all that after 3 days.. u dont wait for your engine and starting going on here am a scammer u called me everytime i picked up never have i not picked up the phone i have bought stuff from memeber here one was a 2006 black busa and i sold some stuff here before i never scammed no one,,i been trying to give this guy his money back i told him several times i will send it with no problem the same way you sent it.. now u guys tell me how i can go to my sent messages and copy and paste on here so u guys can see...i been sending this guy messages when i go there the messages are not there in the sent section..am a member of nyfl motorcycle club down here in florida....
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TallTom
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Now we get to hear the other side of the story. Now it frames this in a different light.
am not scamming no one i been trying to give this guy his money back after 3 days over the weekend he started to say i never shipped the engine after i lost money in crating and shipping now he wants me to lost more money i told this guy several time i will wire trasfer it to u or send u a certifed check from my bank he keeps telling me no....i have no plan in my bone to scam no one..if he wants he can go to his bank make a secound account just so i can transfer it then cancle it or just say yes send it certifed check would of problem been there by now and u would not been here talking crap about me...
MoNoXiDe
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I think everyone just wants to see it handled. In my opinion, if you have a agreement for an engine then thats what you continue doing. I don't like the pay for the engine, wait until someone pays to get it shipped, and then say I want money back. If it were me. I would ship him the engine as agreed in the start and be done with it.
No way I would eat 450.00. Good Luck with the transaction.
No way I would eat 450.00. Good Luck with the transaction.
am not scamming no one i been trying to give this guy his money back after 3 days over the weekend he started to say i never shipped the engine after i lost money in crating and shipping now he wants me to lost more money i told this guy several time i will wire trasfer it to u or send u a certifed check from my bank he keeps telling me no....i have no plan in my bone to scam no one..if he wants he can go to his bank make a secound account just so i can transfer it then cancle it or just say yes send it certifed check would of problem been there by now and u would not been here talking crap about me...am only eating it becasue he started blowing me up on monday after he sent it on friday..then i might of had a problem with him saying i sent him somehting eles and i would rather sell it local...
If what you say is true, send him the money back by Western Union "as he requested" minus the Western Union fees and whatever crating charges you incurred. Print out all emails with date/time stamps and make copies of the fees you paid.
Send him copies via snail mail. Save copies for yourself. If the police contact you, you'll have your ass covered.
....that's if he was really flying off the handle after only three days.
Send him copies via snail mail. Save copies for yourself. If the police contact you, you'll have your ass covered.
....that's if he was really flying off the handle after only three days.
Ok, seriously, this is a little out of hand. I see that pwall wants to get things straight and though this post has been under the "what's new" tab for a minute...... but I also see a guy with 10 posts throwing people under the bus.
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I really hope this isn't a scam and that everyone gets what they want.
There is a lot of evidence of "scam" but pwall says otherwise. Who to trust, I don't know.
Please, just get things square cause this is lunacy.
Good luck to both of you, start the bashing
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I really hope this isn't a scam and that everyone gets what they want.
There is a lot of evidence of "scam" but pwall says otherwise. Who to trust, I don't know.
Please, just get things square cause this is lunacy.
Good luck to both of you, start the bashing
I sent the money to pwall on Thursday 24th Jan. On Monday 28th Jan. I called him to ask if the money had arrived and he said it had arrived that
morning. I asked him when will the engine be shipped out and he said they were coming to pick it up Thursday 31st.Jan.
I asked him to send me the tracking number when the engine left.
I waited till Saturday 2nd Feb. and still had no reply from pwall so I tried to contact him through ebay and noticed that he removed the listing and
was no longer a registered member on ebay.
When ever I have had any thing shipped in the past, the tracking number was sent as soon as the item left,that is the only way one can tell that
it has genuinely been shipped.
So that was when I become suspicious and started the thread.
During the whole of the following week he did no bother to make contact with me.
When I managed to make contact by phone he said he would return my money,during the previous week I had received an email from the Police dept. stating that they had contacted pwall and he showed interest in refunding the money, hence why pwall said he would return my money.
Since then I have been negotiating with him regarding how to return it,this is the reason I have stayed off the forum, hoping it din't make matters
worse. He insisted he send it to my bank account but there was no way I was going to do that.
I finally agreed for him to deduct the $120 Western Union fee off the amount and send me the rest.
Last Thursday 7th Feb. he agreed he would do that. After my continual phone calls asking for the code so I could collect the money from Western Union today he has come up with the story that again he will only wire it to my account,so today I went into my bank and told them the situation
and they suggested I open a new account which I can close once I receive the money.
Today I have sent him those details and am now waiting.
I don't think I am being unreasonable considering I am on the other side of the earth,why didn't he ship the engine and provide me with a tracking
number which is what the original agreement was,he has had my money since the 28th January.
morning. I asked him when will the engine be shipped out and he said they were coming to pick it up Thursday 31st.Jan.
I asked him to send me the tracking number when the engine left.
I waited till Saturday 2nd Feb. and still had no reply from pwall so I tried to contact him through ebay and noticed that he removed the listing and
was no longer a registered member on ebay.
When ever I have had any thing shipped in the past, the tracking number was sent as soon as the item left,that is the only way one can tell that
it has genuinely been shipped.
So that was when I become suspicious and started the thread.
During the whole of the following week he did no bother to make contact with me.
When I managed to make contact by phone he said he would return my money,during the previous week I had received an email from the Police dept. stating that they had contacted pwall and he showed interest in refunding the money, hence why pwall said he would return my money.
Since then I have been negotiating with him regarding how to return it,this is the reason I have stayed off the forum, hoping it din't make matters
worse. He insisted he send it to my bank account but there was no way I was going to do that.
I finally agreed for him to deduct the $120 Western Union fee off the amount and send me the rest.
Last Thursday 7th Feb. he agreed he would do that. After my continual phone calls asking for the code so I could collect the money from Western Union today he has come up with the story that again he will only wire it to my account,so today I went into my bank and told them the situation
and they suggested I open a new account which I can close once I receive the money.
Today I have sent him those details and am now waiting.
I don't think I am being unreasonable considering I am on the other side of the earth,why didn't he ship the engine and provide me with a tracking
number which is what the original agreement was,he has had my money since the 28th January.
The agreement was that the engine was being air freighted, why was he paying $450 to have go to a port?
The story changes all the time.
Lycan6
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Why don't you just send a verified check to the address you were going to ship the engine? It so simple really. If you want to be done with it get the check, make a copy of it, post it in this post or send to him (preferably both if you want your name cleared) and put it in the mail. As long as this post has been going on it seems that one if two things should have happened by now. He should have received the money or he should have received the engine. Yet he has received neither. You have done nothing but write messages. If I were you and telling the truth I would have scanned a copy of the freight charge that you paid or something to prove I wasn't scamming. Anyone can write a message and say what they think needs to be said but as far as I'm concerned the burden of prof is on you, not the buyer.
I lost 1300 to a guy in Detroit in this same manner. Many years ago and before PayPal. I sent money via certified return receipt mail and money order. We talked and talked, but in the end I lost the money. Several guys from bansheehq went there and knocked on the door. No answer. They said the location was as bad as it gets in Detroit and would not go there unarmed. Unfortunately there was no Internet crimes and police told me it was either out of their jurisdiction or to contact my local police. Michigan state police said to sue him.
Sorry this happened. Since a line of communications remains there is a chance you will not be served the same fate as me. Good luck.
Sorry this happened. Since a line of communications remains there is a chance you will not be served the same fate as me. Good luck.
Indeed, this should have been sorted out long ago.
Pwall97 now you have the account number from Kos so you are clear to return his money.
Do the right thing and make good of this rather frustrating transaction and in the process REDEEM YOURSELF!
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