For the die hard drag race guys, an informative video showing the issues with throttle closing under hard acceleration, and the solution.
Brocks derestriction of the gen3 Hayabusa
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Fernando
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@smithabusa I understand it was a team effort but you definitely are the masterpiece. Thank you, greg.
Mythos
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I watched half of it and it got too long. I'm glad you guys work on this stuff because there's no reason the Gen3 Hayabusa shouldnn't have been the fastest bike ever built. It simply amazes me that it's been 3 years and this thing is still getting figured out. back in 2008 when I got into this, the bike was figured out after a year. It kind of actually makes sense to buy an older bike and buy the new one after it gets figured it out...and maybe the old one was better anyway. IDK. I got a ZX-14R. The Hayabusa is a better bike but they didn't make the Gen3 fast enough. They lost money on me. Maybe I'll buy a used one someday if it's fast enough and the previous owner will make the money. Sure do love my Gen2 even against my 14R but the in the end, I spend money on speed and Suzuki made it impossible to spend that money. Kawa made it real easy.
@smithabusa, Is this box entirely different from your ABS delete that I already have? Is there something else needed to delete the IMU as well?
Thanks again for all of the hard work. Great shoutout from Brock! Congrats!
Thanks again for all of the hard work. Great shoutout from Brock! Congrats!
I agree with @Dustin02 Euro5 was the biggest obstacle to developing power it seems...even the stock liter bikes are choked up and need to have money spent on them to unleash their potential....
Suzuki decided Hayabusa riders wanted more mid range so tuned the Hayabusa for that which takes a lot of money and time to tune out.
I guess the alternative was to cancel out the Hayabusa......I doubt there will be a gen 4....
Mythos
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I think they could have made it easier to tune out. Three years and these guys are still working on it? Cripes, what better reason to NOT to buy a brand new bike? I'm glad I have my Gen2. It truly is a great bike. It's great even against the 14R. ...but at the end of the day, I'd just buy an older bike that has credibility rather than buy a new bike that has a reputation for being kind of slow. Suzuki decided....they decided wrong. I hope there is a Gen4 and I hope they get it right like the way our US Presidential election got right this time.
I hear ya man. Brock said that Suzuki didn't want to lend a hand with it at all. I bought the gen3 because of the TTS Superbusa. I've just about got the bike where I want it now.
Suzuki put mid range cams and smaller throttle bodies in it for mid range which made getting power out of it harder..
I think overall it's a better looking bike than the gen 2 (but not gen 1).
If we look at it, it took 7+/- years for Suzuki to come up with a gen 2 and 14 years +/- to come up with gen 3......I wouldn't hold my breath for a gen 4 any time soon.....
Pretty darn cool.......
Thanks, she's getting there.
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Suzuki needs to quit screwing around and just make the 4th Gen in a couple of years or so. Make in an N/A 1500-1600cc with 220-250HP and get the crown back. While I truly do appreciate all the internal strengthening of the engine internals since I plan on keeping this bike the frame, swingarm and suspension can all handle it. Suzuki if you're listening, remove your heads from your asses all ready.
I'll bet the next one is a hybrid......
I read somewhere that Suzuki was contemplating making the gen 3 a boosted sub 1000cc bike.....
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The other problem is affordability. If Suzuki wanted to, they could have released the Gen 3 with a lot more top end and meet Euro 5+, but this would have required a much higher state of tune and other componentry, forcing the price range out of reach for the mere mortals. They opted instead for a mild state of tune with low-end and mid-range torque, which makes sense to me. I paid $28k AU for mine - the limit of affordability for me. The fact that Suzuki kept the Gen 3 Hayabusa to its current price point is amazing. The other issue is that unlike in 1999 when it released the Gen 1, Suzuki has since understood the futility of reaching for stratospheric top speed smack downs when much lighter and high-spec'd litre bikes do the job just as well if not better.
So in reality, Suzuki has made the Hayabusa irrelevant.....it's sole purpose was once street dominance......
In essence they should have just bit the bullet and turned it into the Suzuki version of the Concours....I bet that platform would have sold like gang-busters.....
Good thing there's companies like TTS out there making a bike like the Superbusa to scare the crap out of liter bikes (on the straightaways).
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