Bull$hit Military Requirments

While I was in the Military I got into a pretty serious accident off post(I was fined by the local LE). My CO tried to pull my license on Base and off... After my lawyer called him and my congressman I was driving anywhere I wanted to and he ate a big Sh@t sandwich. I only had two months until I PCS'd though. I suggest you have a group make calls to your local representatives, Congressmen, Senator... I know it is not the same thing exactly but an abuse of power is an abuse of power. You might see a change quicker than you think.
 
Good luck with the fight. I can't really say anything that hasn't already been said, but the first thing that came to my mind was the word DISCRIMINATION.

You may want to start addressing it as such, since this include people using stereotypes in the way that they are treating the riders. I think that it's against policy to do this, but it's been a while since I went through an Active Duty harassment/discrimination training session.

Remeber...you always have the "Right" to communicate with your congressmen and elected officials as long as you keep your chain of command informed, and there may be a restriction that you can only do so as a private citizen, and not a representative of the military. There are also ways to communicate using the Inspector General hotline. You and all of the others can contact them individually, but if you try to communicate as a group to change the Commander's policy, then it could be construed as a Mutiny which is punishible by the UCMJ and SCM.

Just use your head and make sure you know what the correct procedure is to notify the higher-ups. Stay within the rules and it will work out fine.

Contrary to what most people think...You did NOT give up your RIGHTS when you were sworn in. You only agreed to obide by a new set of rules and regulations (UCMJ). Your constitutional rights cannot be taken away except by an order of the courts or congress.

Hope this works out for you.
 
Hope your not taking what I said literally.
Am proud to have served my country. Would lay my life down for the people I served with too.
 
Well we made the local news. They were wrong. The informant who called them said that there was a new reqiurment but the post failed to plan enough classes. Fort Bliss came back and said that we had a month to comply...

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They offered 3 classes for a total of 400 bikes when they knew there was 1100 bikes on post.
 
hasnt changed since I was in..... (the b.s. that is)

you know as well as I do that the rules are being written by folks that are half out of their minds.
 
cache,

You could not be more right. The CG here tried to put a sign up in front of his house banning motorcycles from going down his road last year. It was found to be illegal and the city planners made him take it down. He was upset because it was "his" post...

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Thanks to all who have put up with this ranting and raving. Just tired of being singled out in this cage world...
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I have no Idea as to how your military works... so I dont want to comment regarding the issue
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HeliBusa,

They have active duty personnel teaching along with certified MSF instructors helping out.

They are rumored to be sending 12 instructors to California to become MSF instructors. I threw my name in the hat but I dont see it happening for me. It would be a good job to have even though its a bullcrap requirment...
 
Good cause but bad example of the double standard for high raniking individuals vs the low guys in the food chain...

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Richard Myers rides his motorcycle across Memorial Bridge along with thousands of other bikers during the annual Rolling Thunder memorial ride in Washington Sunday, May 29, 2005. The Rolling Thunder event, coinciding with the Memorial Day weekend, has been focusing attention on POW-MIA issues since 1988. Riders also advocate for veterans' rights.

Where is the reflective gear, wife’s gloves, and are those sunglasses and not goggles?

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yeah man I hear you.

Here in Okinawa, there have been a rash of deaths in the past two years from motorcycling accidents. Like an average of 1 military member every 60 days.

The AF responded by restricting all first time riders to 600CCs (4 stroke) or 200 CCs (2 stroke) and no passengers for 1 year. The other 3 branches did nothing, even though the USMC had almost half of the deaths in those two years.

I tell you man, in 10 years, we may not be able to ride anymore, if they keep taking liberties away like this.
 
Sounds a little extreme to me. The DODI doesn't mention anything about impounding bikes or re-certification. I would be asking someone why and referencing the DODI. They can do everything and anything they want to, it is not going to eliminate accidents. This is the product of misinformed people making decisions 'because they can'. Unfortunately we have to live with it. As I said in the other post, you should ask the AF Times or Army Times to question Gen Meyers about his 'above the law' mentality.
 
This thread brought back some memories..... Ft Benning had some of the same restrictions. Then I got sentenced to Ft Benjamin Harrison (Uncle Ben's Rest Home) in Indianapolis after I got injured and there was not one single motorcycle restriction at all.

As a matter of fact I got away with more stuff on post than anywhere else. I was one of only two Rangers on a post full of paper pushers so the only ones I really got along with was the MP's. Became good friends with just about all of them. On evenings and weekends I would have the MP's sitting there with the radar so I could see how fast I could go in the twisties and straights. Then I would sit in the car with the gun and do the same for them. 5 of the MP's had bikes as well.

I raised more h3!! at Ft Ben than anywhere else in my entire life. I think that the fact that the Post SGM was the other Ranger and rode a bike had something to do with the lack of restrictions for bikers.

Man, hate to hear about the nazi comander you have got at your post.... Hopefully they will ship him out soon.....
 
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