It was funny!! LOL! At least he 'kinda' has a sense of humor...... LOL!and that was funny as heLL!!!
If you cant laugh at yourself...... You can always laugh at Scottrod!!
BUYING A HAYABUSA
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If you cant laugh at yourself...... You can always laugh at Scottrod!!
The bike speed and acceleration is controlled by the throttle position. If you are so sure your ready for a Hayabusa for your first bike you should have no problem with this concept.
I totally agree Rev
Scott,
Seriously now. The only problem you may run into with a fully-modded bike like this is, and you should know this with a modded LS-1, you run the risk of buying someone else's mistakes, problems, headaches, etc. etc. Improvements in one area only lead to the bikes pointing out of weaknesses elsewhere.
If you know this bike. I mean really know this bike and can trust what the modder has done (REALLY TRUST!) then yeah this would be a great deal.
I am not telling you anything you dont already know, but, someone who has taken the blood, sweat and tears - lotsa ca$h doesn't hurt either, and put them into their machine - isn't going to give it away for KBB value. At least I know I wouldn't. It would scare me away if he took $7500 for that bike. That would be the tell tale sign that he is dumping the bike. Read: garbage!
Offer the guy $10K - that would be a steal for what you have listed as modifications to the bike. The list you provided is lengthy and costly. That would honestly be stealing the bike and not insulting the owner..... Maybe start at $9K and work from there? As Rev has said prior.
Go for it bro. You will love it. And as Chris already pointed out, those slips are weak for a bike w/ those mods. You can do better. There are stock Busas running mid to low 9's. With 40 extra horses it should be easily in the 8's.
Yeah, you can install a rev-limiter and all that crap - but why? You have a built in guage in your right wrist. Don't take the fun outta your Busa!!! LOL!
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Seriously now. The only problem you may run into with a fully-modded bike like this is, and you should know this with a modded LS-1, you run the risk of buying someone else's mistakes, problems, headaches, etc. etc. Improvements in one area only lead to the bikes pointing out of weaknesses elsewhere.
If you know this bike. I mean really know this bike and can trust what the modder has done (REALLY TRUST!) then yeah this would be a great deal.
I am not telling you anything you dont already know, but, someone who has taken the blood, sweat and tears - lotsa ca$h doesn't hurt either, and put them into their machine - isn't going to give it away for KBB value. At least I know I wouldn't. It would scare me away if he took $7500 for that bike. That would be the tell tale sign that he is dumping the bike. Read: garbage!
Offer the guy $10K - that would be a steal for what you have listed as modifications to the bike. The list you provided is lengthy and costly. That would honestly be stealing the bike and not insulting the owner..... Maybe start at $9K and work from there? As Rev has said prior.
Go for it bro. You will love it. And as Chris already pointed out, those slips are weak for a bike w/ those mods. You can do better. There are stock Busas running mid to low 9's. With 40 extra horses it should be easily in the 8's.
Yeah, you can install a rev-limiter and all that crap - but why? You have a built in guage in your right wrist. Don't take the fun outta your Busa!!! LOL!
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<table style=filter:glow(color=red)>Quoted for truth!</table>I say before you even set a leg over on any kind of bike, I think you should take a MSF course.
That way you can learn how to set your wrist & not the bike! As far as I, I think you should do as others have said & get a slighly modded busa if you are hellbent on getting a busa. Otherwise, I say get a cheapie starter bike (katana & SV650) and ride it for a season and then I think you might be ready for the bike that you want.
Any way good luck on your purchases!
Scott (I'm guessing...) -- The guys are just looking out for you. I know you said you're not looking for people to tell you that you shouldn't buy this bike as your first bike, but that's an unreasonable expectation, if for no other reason, they're experienced on the Busa and you're not. You pretty much have no defense against their advice...
And from my perspective there is no such thing as a 'mature' 23 year old - that's a delusion. In twenty some odd years you'll begin to understand.
Secondly, as has already been pointed out, a bike with the power of the Busa is absolutely unforgiving of mistakes and the troubles a mistake can bring multiply incredibly quickly on a high-powered bike. Words to the wise.
That having been said, I'll give you my opinions to some of your questions...
What do I offer for this bike? ...[clip]... I was thinking of offering the guy $7,500 and working from there...think that'll cut it? Or will this be a slap in the face?[/QUOTE]
No, I don't think $7500 would be a 'slap in the face'. I think it would be a good opening offer to a guy who apparently has plently of tinkering money and who doesn't ride the bike anymore.
But now the question is...should I take parts costs into effect?[/QUOTE]
Absolutely not.
Is there a way I can de-tune the bike for a couple weeks? Limit the power? Throttle stop? Re-program the computer with a rev limiter?[/QUOTE]
If you're concerned - and you rightly should be - probably the most cost effective measure would be to mechanically limit the throttle opening.
A question to you in closing -- Do you have a wife? A family?
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Scotty, no bashing from me. I'm new to this site but very experienced in sprotbikes......My first bike was a 92'CBR 600 F2, next 95' GSXR 750, then 2000 ZX-12R, 03' CBR 954 RR, and now my Hayabusa........Here it is, Just my 2 cents. People around here, I have found them to genuinely care for one another. They are good people. They don't even know you but they want the best for you and your fulfillment on your scooter. So many times we see dumba$$es wreck their Busa's because they are idiots. 9 times out of 10....the guy that buys a Busa for his first bike ends up making irreverseable mistakes.......You could be the 1 out of 10 who really can learn to ride on a Busa....In our experience it's not a bike to learn on.
If you're hard-headed like me......get a stock Busa, take a Motorcycle Safety Crs......Enjoy the bike, you have nothing to prove to anyone. Be careful. Most of all respect, the bike and its insane power. Its the fastest production bike on the planet......Good luck w/ you purchase and quest.
If you're hard-headed like me......get a stock Busa, take a Motorcycle Safety Crs......Enjoy the bike, you have nothing to prove to anyone. Be careful. Most of all respect, the bike and its insane power. Its the fastest production bike on the planet......Good luck w/ you purchase and quest.
That is pretty dang funny.
You know, maybe it would be best after you bought it if you had a turbo kit installed before you were able to ride it. Maybe some NO2 as well. Wouldnt want you getting bored now would we? My Busa is SOOOOOOO boring right now, I just yawn after taking my helmet off. After having other boring bikes like FJ1200s, RF900R, VF1000F and various other machines this Busa seems so pedestrian, like a daily driver type of thing you know? Anyways, I hope no one's trying to talk you out of such a low-horsepower user-friendly little learning bike like a Hayabusa, that just doesnt seem right!
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well said.
By the way Scott(??), if cache says it should run 9.0 or better, it's a fact.
It's what he does.
oh....amoungst other things.....
Based on your questions it doesn't sound like you're planning on racing this bike (considering detuning and such), so I wonder why you'd even consider buying it? But if you must... Call your dealer and ask how much a brand new Busa engine costs (I'm guessing $4-6K). Add that cost to whatever deal you get on this mod'ed Busa. Buying a new engine may be just what you end up doing, after the mod'ed engine comes apart (no warranty right?). With this level of mod's, you KNOW the current owner put that engine through he##.
Also you may want to ask yourself why anyone with such a fantastic machine, would want to sell it? My advice; if this guy has $22K+ rapped up in his Busa, he'll probably want at least 50% of his investment, say $10K (if you're lucky). That's about the price of a brand new Busa, or easily a used stock or slightly mod'ed one. Busa's are plenty fast in stock form (especially for your first bike). Assuming you bought a new one and at a later date you get the need-for-greater-speed, you can control the modifications yourself.
"I am not here for a thrashing and people telling me I shouldn't buy this bike as my first bike. "
No thrashing intended, but spend some time on this forum reading about the people that have crashed their Busa's. Some owned it as their first bike, others had riding experience. I've been riding for over 22 years, but after reading some of the horror posts on this forum, I was a bit nervous about buying my '05!
It's great you already have respect for the bike and the bike scares you. It should! This bike can bite you, BAD! As you've probably already read, those that don't respect it, pay, quite possibly with their life. You WILL push the bike now and then (at least a bit), everyone does.
So let's add this up... an already rocket-fast bike - made to go even faster, an experimental engine, an inexperienced rider... can you spell R-I-S-K?! Believe this.... There's a big difference between a powerful car and a powerful bike. Personally, I think it takes a much more skilled rider to race a bike, than it does a car. (I've had both.)
If you have to own a Busa, as your first bike, my suggestion is, go stock first. You'll be glad you did. You'll enjoy the fact you have a warranty, and it'll give you every thrill you're looking for.
To answer your question, how much to pay for this mod'ed Busa? To me it would be worthless. Give it some serious thought. That's my .02
Also you may want to ask yourself why anyone with such a fantastic machine, would want to sell it? My advice; if this guy has $22K+ rapped up in his Busa, he'll probably want at least 50% of his investment, say $10K (if you're lucky). That's about the price of a brand new Busa, or easily a used stock or slightly mod'ed one. Busa's are plenty fast in stock form (especially for your first bike). Assuming you bought a new one and at a later date you get the need-for-greater-speed, you can control the modifications yourself.
"I am not here for a thrashing and people telling me I shouldn't buy this bike as my first bike. "
No thrashing intended, but spend some time on this forum reading about the people that have crashed their Busa's. Some owned it as their first bike, others had riding experience. I've been riding for over 22 years, but after reading some of the horror posts on this forum, I was a bit nervous about buying my '05!
It's great you already have respect for the bike and the bike scares you. It should! This bike can bite you, BAD! As you've probably already read, those that don't respect it, pay, quite possibly with their life. You WILL push the bike now and then (at least a bit), everyone does.
So let's add this up... an already rocket-fast bike - made to go even faster, an experimental engine, an inexperienced rider... can you spell R-I-S-K?! Believe this.... There's a big difference between a powerful car and a powerful bike. Personally, I think it takes a much more skilled rider to race a bike, than it does a car. (I've had both.)
If you have to own a Busa, as your first bike, my suggestion is, go stock first. You'll be glad you did. You'll enjoy the fact you have a warranty, and it'll give you every thrill you're looking for.
To answer your question, how much to pay for this mod'ed Busa? To me it would be worthless. Give it some serious thought. That's my .02
To the original poster:
1-No....I would NOT get a heavily modded Busa....you will most likely like it's been said....have too many unpredictables w/all the mods. I'd get a stocker or close to stock used.
2-You're naive for wanting this bike. Believe it or not, you will appreciate and enjoy motorcycling AND a Busa much more if you start on something smaller and tamer. You crawl before you walk. I got a CBR1100XX (170mph bike) after only 1 month of starting out on a Magna 750. Did I lay it down, no? Did I like it? Hell yeah. Did I know what the hell I was doing? I thought I did but hell no I didn't. I didn't know how to turn a bike and handle twisties and trail brake....etc. Neither will you and the Busa is not the bike to learn on. You want something you can grow into an then wail on after 6 months that won't kill you. I got rid of my CBR1100XX after 3 months. Now I got almost 40K mi of riding experience after having less powerful bikes and when I test rode an XX again.....I felt much more at home on it after putting in all this saddle time....and that's what I just bought.....sorry, no Busa...but like this forum.
My advice is....get an SV650...new or used.....put a full exhaust on it and a powercommander....get some aftermarket springs and you'll have a sweet bike that sounds MEAN....all for not too much cash. And it'll still be faster than your LS1 and 10x more fun. You'll become a much better rider starting on an SV too b/c unlike bike like the Busa, you can use almost all of its power and there's a much better chance it won't bite you in the ass like a Busa will when you make rookie mistakes. I rode on and can tell you that it's one of the most fun bikes you can buy period! And like it's been said....a newbie rider on a bad boy veteran rider bike like a Busa.....looks stupid too....b/c you WILL look like a guy that shouldn't be on a Busa. It's ultimately you're decision but I think if you're really a "mature" 23yo like you say....you'll make the mature decison.......not the squid one.
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1-No....I would NOT get a heavily modded Busa....you will most likely like it's been said....have too many unpredictables w/all the mods. I'd get a stocker or close to stock used.
2-You're naive for wanting this bike. Believe it or not, you will appreciate and enjoy motorcycling AND a Busa much more if you start on something smaller and tamer. You crawl before you walk. I got a CBR1100XX (170mph bike) after only 1 month of starting out on a Magna 750. Did I lay it down, no? Did I like it? Hell yeah. Did I know what the hell I was doing? I thought I did but hell no I didn't. I didn't know how to turn a bike and handle twisties and trail brake....etc. Neither will you and the Busa is not the bike to learn on. You want something you can grow into an then wail on after 6 months that won't kill you. I got rid of my CBR1100XX after 3 months. Now I got almost 40K mi of riding experience after having less powerful bikes and when I test rode an XX again.....I felt much more at home on it after putting in all this saddle time....and that's what I just bought.....sorry, no Busa...but like this forum.
My advice is....get an SV650...new or used.....put a full exhaust on it and a powercommander....get some aftermarket springs and you'll have a sweet bike that sounds MEAN....all for not too much cash. And it'll still be faster than your LS1 and 10x more fun. You'll become a much better rider starting on an SV too b/c unlike bike like the Busa, you can use almost all of its power and there's a much better chance it won't bite you in the ass like a Busa will when you make rookie mistakes. I rode on and can tell you that it's one of the most fun bikes you can buy period! And like it's been said....a newbie rider on a bad boy veteran rider bike like a Busa.....looks stupid too....b/c you WILL look like a guy that shouldn't be on a Busa. It's ultimately you're decision but I think if you're really a "mature" 23yo like you say....you'll make the mature decison.......not the squid one.
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Scottrod....you just need to chill a lil bit and take some ribbing. Hell, these guys were busting MY balls when I first came on. Was I upset about it? Kinda, but a lot of times it really BENEFITS someone to take a step back and analyze what's being said rather than flying off the handle.
And now? The very same guys who busted my nuts are the very same ones that I consider my brothers...and I wouldn't have it any other way. If we're in a bar and someone wants to go toe to toe with 'em? You can bet that I'll be right there, swinging with the best. They're good folks....and they have my respect.
You being a "mature" 23 year old? Your reaction to Ted's statement greatly proves otherwise. Learn to chill and analyze first. If you were a "mature" individual, you'd have known this already.
All that out the way, I'd say go with a smaller bike first. You're already scared of the Busa....an that's gonna get you in trouble one day. A heavily modded busa is NOT a beginner's bike.
And now? The very same guys who busted my nuts are the very same ones that I consider my brothers...and I wouldn't have it any other way. If we're in a bar and someone wants to go toe to toe with 'em? You can bet that I'll be right there, swinging with the best. They're good folks....and they have my respect.
You being a "mature" 23 year old? Your reaction to Ted's statement greatly proves otherwise. Learn to chill and analyze first. If you were a "mature" individual, you'd have known this already.
All that out the way, I'd say go with a smaller bike first. You're already scared of the Busa....an that's gonna get you in trouble one day. A heavily modded busa is NOT a beginner's bike.
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