Chris Green... 15 minutes...

You’re paying my bills? Yes, Social Security is doing that. Your incorrect grammar and use of words is your deal. I know what you intend to say, so we’ll call that good enough.
Just got home and got some me time and checked the forum and seen you replied. You definitely took the high road here. I was ready to sling some stuff at you lol! My hats off to you for that. My spelling on a motorcycle forum just isn't on my list of priorities, but I will try to be less "whiney" in the future. Although I kinda like that term lol!
 
worried about that Honda that blows gas out the pipes. He should really fix that. There are some circlips on the needles of his six carburetors, all he has to do is move them up one or two notches.
I must have missed that thread. For metering rods to cause gas to spit out the exhaust, even multiplying by six, would cause him a lot more driveability issues. Seems like he rides it quite a bit. I lean more towards a float or two out of adjustment or stuck, and I would pull the valve cover and check timing marks. May have a slightly stretched timing chain.
You might be right, every engine is unique with it’s characteristics and fuel delivery, and unless we buy new there’s no telling what someone may have altered in the pursuit of smiles.
 
I must have missed that thread. For metering rods to cause gas to spit out the exhaust, even multiplying by six, would cause him a lot more driveability issues. Seems like he rides it quite a bit. I lean more towards a float or two out of adjustment or stuck, and I would pull the valve cover and check timing marks. May have a slightly stretched timing chain.
You might be right, every engine is unique with its characteristics and fuel delivery, and unless we buy new there’s no telling what someone may have altered in the pursuit of smiles.
Never adjusted a float before. If the fuel level is incorrect in the carbs, it means something was butchered and needs to be replaced. Mikuni do not make adjustable floats. A stuck float/ needle and seat will immediately show some pretty noticeable symptoms.

Agree, we don’t know the history and there could be other reasons. Those motors were never very efficient, but most got in the mid 30’s some up to 40. 24mpg, means the bike needs some TLC.

Well at least we are getting back to motorcycle stuff.
 
Never adjusted a float before. If the fuel level is incorrect in the carbs, it means something was butchered and needs to be replaced. Mikuni do not make adjustable floats. A stuck float/ needle and seat will immediately show some pretty noticeable symptoms.

Agree, we don’t know the history and there could be other reasons. Those motors were never very efficient, but most got in the mid 30’s some up to 40. 24mpg, means the bike needs some TLC.

Well at least we are getting back to motorcycle stuff.
The floats are adjustable...bending the tab is the adjustment....

I've personally never had one out of adjustment but I do know of a couple that were slightly out of adjustment from the factory. Both were older bikes and the carbs had never been off so I know someone wasn't in there monkeying around before.

I kind of miss having carbs once in a while.....of course I was really OCD when it came to maintenance and storage so my carbs seldom gave me any issues...

The last bike I had which had carbs was my 1200 Bandit and I put a stage 2 kit in it along with a GSXR exhaust cam in the intake side and a full Hindle Ti exhaust.....for what it was, that bike would haul butt......it was fun to tinker with....
 
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The floats are adjustable...bending the tab is the adjustment....
Fine if you are a butcher. I'm not one of those. Why would anyone in his right mind mess with that? Mikuni carburetors have a jet with a needle which moves up and down in the jet, based on throttle position. The needle is adjustable, with a circlip which can be moved up or down in a number of positions to make fueling richer or leaner. Why butcher the float?
I've personally never had one out of adjustment but I do know of a couple that were slightly out of adjustment from the factory. Both were older bikes and the carbs had never been off so I know someone wasn't in there monkeying around before.
How do you know how far to bend that tab either way? How would you try and measure that towards changing fueling mixture?
I kind of miss having carbs once in a while.....of course I was really OCD when it came to maintenance and storage so my carbs seldom gave me any issues...

The last bike I had which had carbs was my 1200 Bandit and I put a stage 2 kit in it along with a GSXR exhaust cam in the intake side and a full Hindle Ti exhaust.....for what it was, that bike would haul butt......it was fun to tinker with....
Sometimes simple is so much easier and more user friendly.
 
Fine if you are a butcher. I'm not one of those. Why would anyone in his right mind mess with that? Mikuni carburetors have a jet with a needle which moves up and down in the jet, based on throttle position. The needle is adjustable, with a circlip which can be moved up or down in a number of positions to make fueling richer or leaner. Why butcher the float?

How do you know how far to bend that tab either way? How would you try and measure that towards changing fueling mixture?

Sometimes simple is so much easier and more user friendly.
The tab is slightly bent for adjustment and you measure the distance from the carb body to the bottom of the float....if this measurement is out, it can either let more or less fuel into the carb which throws off the balance as one carb might have more or less fuel available to it....

Lots and lots of videos on this.....

 
Mike, go re-watch the video......

The takeaway points are that Trump whipped the crowd into the frenzy and told them to take back the country and wanted to march with them to the capital where no police held doors open or directed people, the insurrectionists smashed their way in, injuring police on their way and were searching the building for Pelosi threatening her as they advanced...

Trump called his VP (Pence) a coward for not stopping the electoral process and the crowd started chanting "hang Pence" if they would have found him who knows what they would have done......

All the while, Trump watched and did nothing to stop it, witnesses said he was relishing in the moment enjoying himself and probably hopeful they would be successful....

Then at the end, he thanked them and professed his love......

A descriptive word comes to mind to express how many felt about this and the word is "sickening"
Hi. I never watched it. I guess I will at least watch some of it.
LOL
My dry sense of humor gets me into a lot of trouble.
Thanks for your post, absolutely agree, if we had to meet up and ride, I am sure we will all have a good time.
Hi. Yes if we all met up it would be a great time. I do not dislike e anyone on here we just see things differently some times. I like to help people but I do not want to give away the store. Thw people just took $10,000,000.00 from us old people and kids and disabled people and gave 2,200,000,000.00 to the (great new democratic voters) Does anyone here think that is OK.
 
Fine if you are a butcher. I'm not one of those. Why would anyone in his right mind mess with that? Mikuni carburetors have a jet with a needle which moves up and down in the jet, based on throttle position. The needle is adjustable, with a circlip which can be moved up or down in a number of positions to make fueling richer or leaner. Why butcher the float?

How do you know how far to bend that tab either way? How would you try and measure that towards changing fueling mixture?

Sometimes simple is so much easier and more user friendly.
Hi. It has been a long time but bending the tab on the flot is the way it was done.
 
The tab is slightly bent for adjustment and you measure the distance from the carb body to the bottom of the float....if this measurement is out, it can either let more or less fuel into the carb which throws off the balance as one carb might have more or less fuel available to it....

Lots and lots of videos on this.....

I stand corrected, never needed to do that before. Why would that ever change though, unless someone messed with it?

Those don't look like the same Mikuni on a 1000CBX though?
 
I stand corrected, never needed to do that before. Why would that ever change though, unless someone messed with it?

Those don't look like the same Mikuni on a 1000CBX though?
Very rarely some came from the factory not adjusted properly....probably a Friday or Monday deal.....

Carbs are carbs, the concept and adjustment application are all the same.....

In all the time I have worked on carbs I have only heard of a couple floats being out of adjustment but it is still one of the things that a person checks....

I personally have found a needle with the wrong circlip adjustment on a friends Yamaha Seca once....it was running rough and I just happened to take the carb tops off to check the diaphragms and needle settings when I found it....the bike had around 2000kms on it at the time but was out of warranty...

One just never knows.....
 
Very rarely some came from the factory not adjusted properly....probably a Friday or Monday deal.....

Carbs are carbs, the concept and adjustment application are all the same.....

In all the time I have worked on carbs I have only heard of a couple floats being out of adjustment but it is still one of the things that a person checks....

I personally have found a needle with the wrong circlip adjustment on a friends Yamaha Seca once....it was running rough and I just happened to take the carb tops off to check the diaphragms and needle settings when I found it....the bike had around 2000kms on it at the time but was out of warranty...

One just never knows.....
Those were the days, right?

In South Africa, legally we were not allowed anything more than 50cc's until we get to the age of 18. We bored those things out to the limit, fitted a new piston and got them up to 80cc's. Then after school have a race and pretend the bike is bone stock.
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Fine if you are a butcher. I'm not one of those. Why would anyone in his right mind mess with that? Mikuni carburetors have a jet with a needle which moves up and down in the jet, based on throttle position. The needle is adjustable, with a circlip which can be moved up or down in a number of positions to make fueling richer or leaner. Why butcher the float?

How do you know how far to bend that tab either way? How would you try and measure that towards changing fueling mixture?

Sometimes simple is so much easier and more user friendly.

The float tang Can be bent if need be, then the floats are measured with calipers, which there will be a range for the spec, and the reference points to measure from.
It is then checked by a 'clear tube method'.
A clear tube is put on the float bowl drain, the tube is held vertical against the side of the carburetor body, the gas turned on, and the gas rises in the tube.
The gas level will have a reference point, usually being the line where the float bowl attaches to the carb body, and the gas level will be even with that, or usually within 3mm below or above it, depending on modifications.
It is a measurable and repeatable process with noticeable results, and I have done several over the years.
Most floats don't stick, if they do, then whole carb is gummed up and there are other problems anyway.
I think the old 'stuck float' became the go-to answer for thosr that don't understand carburetors.
The needle and seat being worn is almost always the culprit for overflowing.
Most factory carbs are set well, but there are some where float adjustments can improve how they run.
Syncing multiple carbs(or throttle bodies) is rarely dramatic, and not needed unless the carbs have be touched before, but can slighlty improve idle and throttle response.
I think that most do not know that the pilot circuit controls idle to quarter throttle, the needles in the slides control 1/4 to 3/4, and the main jets control 3/4 to wide open, with some overlap.
And that the fuel screw for the pilot is a valve to control it's flow rate.
Everything needs to be correct.
A full exhaust and high flow air filters almost always need larger main jets, a needle clip position change, and sometimes a fuel screw adjustment.
It is usually pretty easy to tell where the problem(s) are in a carburetor(s).
I like carbs, even though they can be a pain to make changes to...but I love that one push of the start button with no choke that fuel injection gives, no matter the weather.
It's also nice to make changes by pushing buttons vs turning screwdrivers and pulling Tiny e-clips, lol
 
Those were the days, right?

In South Africa, legally we were not allowed anything more than 50cc's until we get to the age of 18. We bored those things out to the limit, fitted a new piston and got them up to 80cc's. Then after school have a race and pretend the bike is bone stock.
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Here in Canada (and the US) if you can afford it you can ride it....

I knew lots of first time riders back in the day riding 750s as their first street bike.....

......and many more riding RD 400s/RZ350s and Suzuki GT380s as first street bikes....

My first street bike was a Kawasaki 250 triple and although it sounded awesome, it was not as exciting as my later RD400...

Some guys bought those Honda MB5s and put RM 80 motors in them...that sure woke those little bikes up......

Those were the days....
 
The float tang Can be bent if need be, then the floats are measured with calipers, which there will be a range for the spec, and the reference points to measure from.
It is then checked by a 'clear tube method'.
A clear tube is put on the float bowl drain, the tube is held vertical against the side of the carburetor body, the gas turned on, and the gas rises in the tube.
The gas level will have a reference point, usually being the line where the float bowl attaches to the carb body, and the gas level will be even with that, or usually within 3mm below or above it, depending on modifications.
It is a measurable and repeatable process with noticeable results, and I have done several over the years.
Most floats don't stick, if they do, then whole carb is gummed up and there are other problems anyway.
I think the old 'stuck float' became the go-to answer for thosr that don't understand carburetors.
The needle and seat being worn is almost always the culprit for overflowing.
Most factory carbs are set well, but there are some where float adjustments can improve how they run.
Syncing multiple carbs(or throttle bodies) is rarely dramatic, and not needed unless the carbs have be touched before, but can slighlty improve idle and throttle response.
I think that most do not know that the pilot circuit controls idle to quarter throttle, the needles in the slides control 1/4 to 3/4, and the main jets control 3/4 to wide open, with some overlap.
And that the fuel screw for the pilot is a valve to control it's flow rate.
Everything needs to be correct.
A full exhaust and high flow air filters almost always need larger main jets, a needle clip position change, and sometimes a fuel screw adjustment.
It is usually pretty easy to tell where the problem(s) are in a carburetor(s).
I like carbs, even though they can be a pain to make changes to...but I love that one push of the start button with no choke that fuel injection gives, no matter the weather.
It's also nice to make changes by pushing buttons vs turning screwdrivers and pulling Tiny e-clips, lol
One thing I always did with my carb bikes was to run fuel stabilizer and drain them when storing for even a little while....I never had any issues when I did this.

Guys I knew would just shut their bikes off and walk away during winter storage and then wonder why they had so many issues when they took it our of storage.....generally they would call me........after a while I would draft up a motorcycle storage "how to" sheet give it to them and if they didn't follow it, don't call me.....
 
One thing I always did with my carb bikes was to run fuel stabilizer and drain them when storing for even a little while....I never had any issues when I did this.

Guys I knew would just shut their bikes off and walk away during winter storage and then wonder why they had so many issues when they took it our of storage.....generally they would call me........after a while I would draft up a motorcycle storage "how to" sheet give it to them and if they didn't follow it, don't call me.....
I believe if our hands are capable, most of us are still messing with carburetors. Lawnmowers, weed eaters, hedge trimmers, leaf blowers. If we use fuel with ethanol, those tiny fuel hoses last only a few years and they need replacement.

Had to replace my Husqvarna weed eater bleed bulb a couple of weeks ago. $2.50 on the Husqvarna parts site, but out of stock. Over $30 everywhere else plus shipping.
 
I rebuilt the carbs on a friends 2004 Yamaha Raptor 660cc, 2 carburetors.
Aftermarket needles, larger pilots and mains, adjusted both floats(it also has multiple discs on the end of the aftermarket muffler, to which I had to remove several).
I told him to Never hit the throttle when he starts it, or before he cuts it off, and if he plans not to ride it for a while(he rides it year round) to just turn the gas off and let it cut itself off.
If it's cold outside, use the choke, and still do Not give it any gas.
And year round, let it idle for at least a minute or 2 before riding it.
Now, 5 years later, hot or cold outside, one touch of the start button and it fires instantly and idles smooth, with no dead spots anywhere in the rpms, it pulls smooth and hard from idle, no stumbles, all the way to redline.
Carburetors run great when set correctly and they don't sit for extended periods of time.
I hate to hear constant revving when trying to start something.
He bought it from another friend when it was a year old, and said that it never ran as well before as it does now, as it got a muffler, air filter, and bigger mains when it was new, and Supposedly was running better and faster back then, lol
 
I believe if our hands are capable, most of us are still messing with carburetors. Lawnmowers, weed eaters, hedge trimmers, leaf blowers. If we use fuel with ethanol, those tiny fuel hoses last only a few years and they need replacement.

Had to replace my Husqvarna weed eater bleed bulb a couple of weeks ago. $2.50 on the Husqvarna parts site, but out of stock. Over $30 everywhere else plus shipping.
Mostly those carbs are replaced instead of fixed nowadays.....or the entire unit is chucked out......

We have a bulk curbside pickup twice a year around here and there are countless grass trimmers and the like sitting on the side of the road of which the carb is completely gummed up due to neglect....there are people picking them up, putting new carbs on them and then selling them at a profit.......
 
Mostly those carbs are replaced instead of fixed nowadays.....or the entire unit is chucked out......

We have a bulk curbside pickup twice a year around here and there are countless grass trimmers and the like sitting on the side of the road of which the carb is completely gummed up due to neglect....there are people picking them up, putting new carbs on them and then selling them at a profit.......
Spoilt with Chinese manufacturing, I guess.

Spend 30 minutes, order parts, spend another 30 minutes to fix it. Or, alternatively drive to Lowe’s and buy a new one for $330
 
Spoilt with Chinese manufacturing, I guess.

Spend 30 minutes, order parts, spend another 30 minutes to fix it. Or, alternatively drive to Lowe’s and buy a new one for $330
A while ago one of our large stores (Canadian Tire) was selling Chinese (Yamaha) knock off 4 wheelers and dirt bikes...

My brother would often get people bringing them to his house to fix as there was zero warranty for them. He found some very disturbing things, one was completely missing an exhaust valve....the people didn't know that it wouldn't run until they got home and the store wouldn't take it back as they had to go through a third party for returns.....so I was told....

He said one of them had no main jet in the carb....it wasn't put in...and lot of other such stories.....

It got so people were driving to Canadian Tire and dumping these things in front of their repair bays, my brother said one of the guys that worked there said one morning there were 3 of them thrown in a pile when he got to work....and almost every morning he'd come in to at least one that looked like they were literally thrown off someone's truck....

Needless to say Canadian Tire soon distanced themselves from that company....

However, my brother said he managed to get a 4 wheeler running and it has run great for it's owner for over 10 yrs now......
 
I've seen on a couple of occasions the float have a tiny leak and get gas inside of it, causing it not to float at the right level, and causing the bowl to be in a constant overflow situation. Since it's before the venturi, it'll actually run halfway decent depending on how for out of adjustment the float is. It takes enough pressure to bend the tang that I wouldn't think it would get out of adjustment, but it may not have been set correctly by the last person to work on it. I've found working on older vehicles that there are a lot of people that work on things that probably shouldn't.
 
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