It's been like that for a while.....I remember seeing all the commercials law offices were pumping out encouraging people to sue....
I'm seeing more and more of them in Canada now....
.....not good.....
Daniel Penny not guilty
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I'm seeing more and more of them in Canada now....
.....not good.....
You continue to refer to the negatives, protests and riots etc. I don’t know how much inner city bias you’ve seen against blacks, but it’s prevalent and has existed for a long long time. I keep saying it’s not the organization, which yes ended up terribly flawed, it’s the ideal, but you and others don’t want to hear that. You want to hear what you want to believe.
For those that don’t know let me clarify something. There is a choke hold that cuts off the air to the victim which can be deadly especially if ‘applied’ too long. The pressure is against the throat, the front of the neck. It’s a technique one would use to kill someone by air starvation or by someone trying to control someone who didn’t know any better but with the same result, death. MMA members do not use choke holds. They use what cops use and what Penny apparently (didn’t) and that’s the carotid artery squeeze which is applied to the sides of the neck to depress the carotid artery so long that it deprives the blood flow to the brain causing temporary (if used correctly) unconsciousness. The length of ‘sleep’ is approximately the same length that the ‘squeeze’ is applied. Proper arm positioning is when the elbow is directly in front of the chin so the forearm bone can be pressed against the side of the neck NOT the throat. It shouldn’t be used for restraints of any length. Choke holds kill and carotid artery blood to brain starvation also kills if applied too long. Penny is responsible for the man’s death regardless of what the jury decided. The jury is given precise instructions as to the elements of the offense, the exact wording of the offense charged (and) what they (must) find with their verdict. Sometimes the DA charges incorrectly which ties the hands of the juries as to what their verdict can be.
I, (and I believe you) don't live in inner cities nor are we privy to the day to day activities therein......all we can go off is what we see and read...
You keep saying it's not the BLM organization so what is the purpose of this organization if it's not to aid people who need them most? Why does it exist? I see it as only creating division.
What I do see is the fact that black people living in the inner city have about the same ability to climb out of their predicament as do the white people who live in squaller in depressed areas.....and there are lots of them...and they have nowhere to turn for help other than social assistance...
The MMA certainly does apply choke holds....
Penny might have not applied the submission hold correctly however....lots of factors affect this.
Chokeholds: Could MMA Fighting Techniques Be Used in Crimes?
With martial arts gaining in popularity, a PCOM forensics expert encourages investigators to be aware of the symptoms of strangulation due to chokeholds.
www.pcom.edu
8 Types of Chokes That Almost Every MMA Player Uses
For the beginners who are trying to know more about different kinds of chokes that are used in MMA and BJJ, we have listed down some of
mymmanews.com
MMA and UFC glossary: Choke, slam, guard, clinch, hook, more
From armbar to Zuffa, here is some of the common terminology heard at UFC and other mixed martial arts events.
I lived the first 45 years of my life in Los Angeles, many years in Inglewood. You may not be familiar with, but I assure you, I’ve seen a lot of inner city bias against blacks by civilians and police. On that, I don’t go by what I’ve read.
The BLM organization was created in good conscience, but typical human greed got in the way. The failure of that organization in no way takes away from what minorities put up with.
Before my sister moved to Florida, she lived in Detroit....she had a few stories to tell, she said it was like a war zone where black gangs killed black gangs and if anyone got in the way, they would get shot as well....her husband was a former 101st paratrooper and she said even he was scared to go outside at times....
My aunt lived in Harlem for a while, she was an outreach worker and worked with inner city kids, she had lots of interesting stories to tell...
But in the end, I can only go off 2nd hand information.
I'm not saying there isn't racism in the US, I've seen that first hand as we had a couple black operators in our unit and they were sometimes treated poorly by people we encountered in the US....oddly enough they were also treated poorly by people in Africa we worked with.....the Africans treated us white folk fine and were cold towards our black members....
I recall one time we were supposed to meet up with one of the black US operators at his favorite bar.......it was a black bar but we didn't know this until we were inside, we arrived before our friend and we honestly thought we were going to have fight our way out and were preparing when one of the patrons noticed a Canadian pin on one of our guys....he said "are you all Canadians?" we said we were and we were supposed to meet our friend here, once they found out we were Canadians, they were welcoming and when our friend came in he was pretty apologetic to us.
That same team came to Canada and we went all over the place with them and not a worry, this guy couldn't believe it....
So a long story to say I get where you are coming from......
Cmon man! You know OBG can break arms and legs with precision so as to not jeopardize anyone further. Just a quick snap that they submit to and it's over. Next scene they will be ok. Bahahahahahah
The MMA certainly does apply choke holds....
Penny might have not applied the submission hold correctly however....lots of factors affect this.
Chokeholds: Could MMA Fighting Techniques Be Used in Crimes?
With martial arts gaining in popularity, a PCOM forensics expert encourages investigators to be aware of the symptoms of strangulation due to chokeholds.
8 Types of Chokes That Almost Every MMA Player Uses
For the beginners who are trying to know more about different kinds of chokes that are used in MMA and BJJ, we have listed down some of
MMA and UFC glossary: Choke, slam, guard, clinch, hook, more
From armbar to Zuffa, here is some of the common terminology heard at UFC and other mixed martial arts events.www.espn.com
Geebus man, I wasn’t referring to any exhibition fighting between MMA participants.
You literally used MMA in your response.....that's the only reason I would say that MMA uses chokeholds....
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I do find it remarkable that Penny was found not guilty as most times in cases like these, the outcome is generally decided by public opinion......the jury must have been really isolated as to not be swayed.
You “literally” used MMA as an example in post 58 before I replied or I wouldn’t have thought of it.
I'm not tracking the correlation between the two?
I guess the takeaway is that the MMA uses chokeholds.....so does the military and others.....
Penny probably never had to use one outside training.......they are easily done incorrectly.
It was a jury of his peers and ones of all colors testified on his behalf. All said they were scared sh!ess. That's why he was found NG.
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