difficult situation= need advise

[tourbus]

...sounds like ya'll just need to move.

No matter what you do he will show up...some people just dont get it.

amen!!!!!!!that is how we feel.....like i said we need to man up and be hard asses i guess because this guy really does'nt get it. thank you all for the advise.

 

[raydog]

Just remember your power (every one of us actually) lies in transparency and the truth.
Tell him EXACTLY what the problems are, even if you have to write down reminders in bullet form. Tell him WHY you all feel the way you do. Simplify his choices 1)change his attitude or 2)no more connection. Good luck to you, Raydog

 

[Supergank1]

ok i have a few guys liek that here. I can be that irratating azz. and there are  ways of  getting to him on his level. tell him you guys will meet an hour earlier than normal. then meet at normal time  if he is not there then go with out him but you need not talk behind his back  all of you need to  stop and say hey  we are tired of it and  your attitude towards us needs to change.  just flat out say hey you know if i wanted to know about a track day i would go if i wanted to watch you clean your bike i would have came over. just start being blunt to him. if he doesnt get the hint  tell him man  i will talk to you  or hang out when where not riding cause i cant handle the way you are when your around other people or even motorcycles.

then say  well the reason we leave is casue your kind of an embarassement to us.  but  also ask him is there anything wrong or anything he wants to talk about cause  you knwo something might be going on in his head and that is why he is acting this way

i`d do the opposite, tell him we are meeting at our usual time then the rest of you hook up an hour earlier and roll out..life`s to short to spend time around people like that.

 

[BATTMAN]

Just be honest with him. If he is a true friend, he will listen to you. If not, he wasnt a true friend.

 

[The Big Red One]

As reasonably possible tell him to change his attitude or as a group he won't be invited to ride any longer.  Simple as that...nobody is going to call him to ride unless he stops acting up.  You may run into him on rare occassion on the road but so what.  Is he really going to turn around like a lost puppy and follow you all wherever you go?

Ya he would turn around and follow us, then he would procede to stick with us until we stop for fuel or drink, then he will hang out with us acting pissed why nobody talks to him making everybody as a whole feel akward. he used to be really cool but as the years passed he started acting more and more like a penis head, then he started doing track days and his attitude really has gone to poop, he has the holyer than thou that if your not doing track days your an idiot. He's rude when we decide on a time to depart he will call via cell phone and tell us he's running late and to wait on him but after 20-30 minutes we end up leaving without him. He's rude when we are ready to go he will brake out the cleaning kit and start a lengthy detail process that takes along time so we will leave w/o him and he gets all pissed. He starts in on the trackday talk that no one can stand after 10years of listning to it and go into such great detail about it that you would think he's mat mladin. He's a rude know-it all when it comes to giving advise such as the case on sunday when we ran over to a stranger getting ready to drop her brand new gsxr 600 in the pizza hut parking lot, we got her saved and my girl friend started visting with this young female and she mentioned she would like to have her bike lowered like my girlfriends bike is and ole douche bag pipes up "no don't lower it it screws with the bikes handling to much" very rude to this gal and very rude to my girlfriend @ that. He loves to corner anyone who will listen and he will start critiquing people's every move. He will be in our dicussion of where we all want to ride but when we try to come up with something he will ***** and we can say well were do you want to go, and he will want to do the same ride that we've done 90 times before. I could keep going but unless your around him you would never know the full story. what prompted me to write this is the absolute nicest guy you folks would ever meet called me and said he refuses to go if that d-head goes again after the way he acted last sunday which btw he wasn't invited to go on but somehow he found us  

He sounds alot like my dad....unfortunately I can't kick my dads ass.....but I'd be beating this m'fer's ass down hard and fast. I love guys like that

thats if you can catch them.....usaully there all talk and no walk

Its the quiet guys you have to watch out for...not the mouths

 

[Kensbusa]

just tell him as a group
get some act right  or get lost  

+1

 

[Wag]

Plan it in advance. Everyone meet up for a ride and then a mile down the road, everyone split into two groups. He'll follow one of the groups. Then a mile or so later, split that group into two. He'll follow one group. The other one can go meet with the first group and ride all day.

Freaky guy there, man.

(I hope you're not talking about me!

)

--Wag--

 

[bdogg317]

what happened to the "ignore" button?    You do not invite, he gets irate?  so what...  

you told him the issue and he did not care enough to listen?    I think you were good to try and tell him what was going on and why the friction...

I have been ditched more than once.. not that big a deal

 

[woodwheel]

Plan it in advance.  Everyone meet up for a ride and then a mile down the road, everyone split into two groups.  He'll follow one of the groups.  Then a mile or so later, split that group into two.  He'll follow one group.  The other one can go meet with the first group and ride all day.

Freaky guy there, man.

(I hope you're not talking about me!  

)

--Wag--

that would be funny... i wonder who he would follow...

 

[flybybusa]

poop in his helmet

 

[99'busa]

poop in his helmet

your sick dude.

 

[NINJA KILLER]

Unite , Together you stand & Divided you fall!

 

[criomega]

This is why I like being a big guy but Sucks that sometimes even my closest friends tend to be intimidated by me and won't voice there opinions on things because of it even when I really want to know what they think. I'd say lay it out as a group and if he want to fight theres nothing you can do about it, just try not to hurt him to bad

 

[Luvanicebum]

People like this are considered "Toxic". Garbage in=Garbage out. Self consumed with their own position in a group
and unconcerned with anybody else. We all know these people and they are kind of hard to pin down specifically, but
again, we all know the "type". One-uppers, know-it-all's, inturrupters. They're all suffering from the same social retardation that
really leads to one prognosis: SELFISHNESS.
The funny thing is, most people like this are completely unaware that they are like this.
They think they're the "life of the party" or a "Cornicopia of knowledge", when in fact, people only tolerate them
because we lack the testicles to tell them they suck or kick them to the curb.

The point is: Is one or two laughs worth 100 irritating situations? NOPE!

So, honor your other friend, stand up for the greater good of the group and confront this individual.
Buy him this book: 'Dale Carnagie-How to win friends and influence people'. Hand it to him and say, "read this or we're done".
If he thinks it's stupid, then you know what to do.
The worst case is that you feel a little bad about cutting out this cancerous person.

 

[99'busa]

if you want to be subtle just avoid him at all costs. do rides when he cant. go farther away when he dont know it. avoid all calls. he'll get the message and hang with his new track buddys. maybe?

 

[Luvanicebum]

if you want to be subtle just avoid him at all costs. do rides when he cant. go farther away when he dont know it. avoid all calls. he'll get the message and hang with his new track buddys. maybe?

The deliberate "drift away" works sometimes, but it's kind of gutless. I prefer the direct approach.
Everybody knows where you stand and it garners respect in the long run rather than
cultivating resentment.

It's a better tactic because it doesn't leave any unspoken doubts and here-say.

 

[99'busa]

if you want to be subtle just avoid him at all costs. do rides when he cant. go farther away when he dont know it. avoid all calls. he'll get the message and hang with his new track buddys. maybe?

The deliberate "drift away" works sometimes, but it's kind of gutless.  I prefer the direct approach.
Everybody knows where you stand and it garners respect in the long run rather than
cultivating resentment.

It's a better tactic because it doesn't leave any unspoken doubts and here-say.

ya your right. I just hate confrontations. your way i agree is better though

 

[Bosshound]

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what happened to the "ignore" button?    You do not invite, he gets irate?  so what...  

you told him the issue and he did not care enough to listen?    I think you were good to try and tell him what was going on and why the friction...

I have been ditched more than once.. not that big a deal

ya. I got "ditched" saturday

Time heals,it's good we can laugh at ourselves sometimes

Thank God my Fellow Rider's NEVER Ditch Me !!! Right Bill ? Ozz ? Gene ? You There ?

 

[Bosshound]

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what happened to the "ignore" button?    You do not invite, he gets irate?  so what...  

you told him the issue and he did not care enough to listen?    I think you were good to try and tell him what was going on and why the friction...

I have been ditched more than once.. not that big a deal

ya. I got "ditched" saturday

Time heals,it's good we can laugh at ourselves sometimes

Thank God my Fellow Rider's NEVER Ditch Me !!! Right Bill ? Ozz ? Gene ? You There ?

 

[Bosshound]

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what happened to the "ignore" button?    You do not invite, he gets irate?  so what...  

you told him the issue and he did not care enough to listen?    I think you were good to try and tell him what was going on and why the friction...

I have been ditched more than once.. not that big a deal

ya. I got "ditched" saturday

Time heals,it's good we can laugh at ourselves sometimes

Thank God I have Never Been DITCHED !!! Right Bill ? Bill ? You There ? Gene ? Ozz ?