difficult situation= need advise

Next time he shows up get the group nice and ready with several drinks and, as one, piss all over his bike...
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99'busa @ Apr. 08 2008 said:
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what happened to the "ignore" button?    You do not invite, he gets irate?  so what...  

you told him the issue and he did not care enough to listen?    I think you were good to try and tell him what was going on and why the friction...

I have been ditched more than once.. not that big a deal
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ya. I got "ditched" saturday
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Time heals,it's good we can laugh at ourselves sometimes
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Thank God my Fellow Rider's NEVER Ditch Me !!!  Right Bill ?  Ozz ? Gene ? You There ?  
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I want to mess with you so bad, you know it's my nature.
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Plan it in advance. Everyone meet up for a ride and then a mile down the road, everyone split into two groups. He'll follow one of the groups. Then a mile or so later, split that group into two. He'll follow one group. The other one can go meet with the first group and ride all day.

Freaky guy there, man.

(I hope you're not talking about me!
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that would be funny... i wonder who he would follow...
I was kinda hoping his head might explode from not being able to figure it out.

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Tell him nicely his attitude isn't welcome, and the group doesn't care for it.
 
Man do I know what you're going through !!!!!  Not motorcycle related, but growing up there were 7 of us that were really close. We had one boy just like this guy, and by the time we hit our 20's nobody could stand being around him. He was a few years older than us also. But everybody else just stopped coming around, one by one, but he ALWAYS came right to me. I tried not answering calls, and even the door. (yeah, that bad) When I finaly got the balls to say something to him we almost got into a fight. It's a bad situation, especially when you care about them deep down ? I truly beleive people like this don't change, for the most part. They may for a little while, but the true them will pop back up sooner, or later.

  Now none of us hang out anymore, and I do miss them all, I wish we would have said something back then.  Hope this don't happen to your group !!
 
Plan it in advance.  Everyone meet up for a ride and then a mile down the road, everyone split into two groups.  He'll follow one of the groups.  Then a mile or so later, split that group into two.  He'll follow one group.  The other one can go meet with the first group and ride all day.

Freaky guy there, man.

(I hope you're not talking about me!  
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that would be awsome except he still wouldnt get the hint, he is a freaky guy, probably the reason he has been a single man since i met him in 1995.
 
Man do I know what you're going through !!!!!  Not motorcycle related, but growing up there were 7 of us that were really close. We had one boy just like this guy, and by the time we hit our 20's nobody could stand being around him. He was a few years older than us also. But everybody else just stopped coming around, one by one, but he ALWAYS came right to me. I tried not answering calls, and even the door. (yeah, that bad) When I finaly got the balls to say something to him we almost got into a fight. It's a bad situation, especially when you care about them deep down ? I truly beleive people like this don't change, for the most part. They may for a little while, but the true them will pop back up sooner, or later.

  Now none of us hang out anymore, and I do miss them all, I wish we would have said something back then.  Hope this don't happen to your group !!
yep my story is the same as yours, other than its cycle related but it wasnt always about cycles, back in the mid 90's to the early 2000's we used to get together and do other things from dinner and a movie to shooting high power rifle's to flying r/c airplanes which i still do all these things but i got to where i absolutly refuse to ask this guy to go because he will ruin it for me and the others.
 
Who's one he feels closest to? Maybe have that person take him aside and have a talk with him. Those group talks can go "South" real fast. Anger often erupts cause it's a familiar emotion,which can happen from a group situation. Unless you just wanted to cut the guy lose all together. Then have group tell him as a whole.

Maybe buy him a hooker to take out some of that attitude he is expressing?
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Dayum dude this sucks... On a high note glad I had a chance to meet a fellow oRg Brother out at Cassoday this weekend.
 
As a group file a restraining order on him.

If he shows up where any of you are call the police and have him arrested.

If he shows up where he is not wanted and keeps bothering people I believe that falls under federal stalking laws.

Stop being nice, apparently he isnt
 
NEVER do a group talk....NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It corners the person and automatically puts them in defense mode.
I agree with his closest (friend) talking to him over lunch or something.
Keep it mellow and straight to the point. Don't let him get off on a tangent.
I'm telling you, the book I recommendeded by Dale Carnagie can be a real eye opener
if you're the eye opening type.
Re-inforce your talk with something positive like how he used to be and the fact that people feel bad that he's become abrasive and not fun anymore.
Give him some sort of time constraint, re-assure him that the others don't know about your talk and hope he takes it like a man.
Otherwise, give him the BOOT!
 
Who's one he feels closest to? Maybe have that person take him aside and have a talk with him. Those group talks can go "South" real fast. Anger often erupts cause it's a familiar emotion,which can happen from a group situation. Unless you just wanted to cut the guy lose all together. Then have group tell him as a whole.

Maybe buy him a hooker to take out some of that attitude he is expressing?  
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+1 - good advice on how a group confronting an individual can go  
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 - I would avoid that at all costs.

+1 on the hooker as well - can't hurt.
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Oh man, that is tough. Do you guys get along other than on rides? Or do you only see him on rides. I think either way, it best to be honest with him. Maybe you guys need to visit with him in as a group. He may have other issues at home you are not aware of and just needs to be confronted. An "intervetion" if you will.
+ 1 the group way.
 
Maybe its just me but Im of a direct nature. Tell him your time together has run its course. Wish him the best of luck and part ways as best you can. HE'S EATING UP YOUR RIDE TIME MAN!!!
If he gets irate, who cares? He's like the ex-girl friend that keeps talking, hang up or walk away they're the EX!!!
 
It's more than just riding, it becomes something that you think about all the time. Have you guys ever tried making it into a joke ? Like when he starts cleaning his bike, just say "you cleaning, or riding", while you guys are pulling off. Then if he gets pissed off, confront him RIGHT THERE !! "Dude, what's your problem ? you're mad because we want to ride, instead of watching you clean your bike" ?

LIFE IS TOO SHORT !!
 
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