busabobh
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People are that stupid, they just proved it. As I have said before, it’s the dumbing down of America. I’m afraid for this country, just look on this forum how some are justifying what’s happening.
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Berlin Germany
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hi folks
what's the old saying?
who sows the wind will reap storm !
and who is the sower? identify him (little hint - he played golf in florida last months while his country is going "down") and chase him to the devil with an ass kick so that he experiences the storm.
this crap at the capitol yesterday seems to me to be the first severe wind
not a storm yet, but a possible harbinger.
a us journalist even mentioned a civil war as a possible consequence yesterday evening - that sounds very frightening to me.
so the question arises what "miss liberty" stood for and what is happening nowadays?
as far as I understand here something is going massively in the wrong direction.
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and what my non-political morning radio here in berlin told me, some minutes ago, is :
they found some pipe-bombs on the capitol´s ground and very close to
they found several guns on the capitol´s ground and around
they have a big number of hurt police officers
they have four dead people - one on the capitol´s ground 3 others near to it
damn ! - what else will happen?????????????
what's the old saying?
who sows the wind will reap storm !
and who is the sower? identify him (little hint - he played golf in florida last months while his country is going "down") and chase him to the devil with an ass kick so that he experiences the storm.
this crap at the capitol yesterday seems to me to be the first severe wind
not a storm yet, but a possible harbinger.
a us journalist even mentioned a civil war as a possible consequence yesterday evening - that sounds very frightening to me.
so the question arises what "miss liberty" stood for and what is happening nowadays?
as far as I understand here something is going massively in the wrong direction.
_______________________________________
and what my non-political morning radio here in berlin told me, some minutes ago, is :
they found some pipe-bombs on the capitol´s ground and very close to
they found several guns on the capitol´s ground and around
they have a big number of hurt police officers
they have four dead people - one on the capitol´s ground 3 others near to it
damn ! - what else will happen?????????????
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Its a sad and shameful day for sure and trump is completely responsible for the four dead bodies just as much as he would be if he’d pulled the trigger.
This was a set up. Plain and simple. Antifa dressing up as Trump supporters
Or trumpsters posing as antifa members. The idiot wearing the viking helmet was seen as both. Who paid him? You have no more proof of who his benefactor is than I do. Why don’t you condemn the actions of the prez who encouraged these idiots? They could have protested peacefully. Why didn’t they?
Berlin Germany
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sorry
but you can't be serious, because how could / should one recognize trump supporters?
do they all wear the same stupid red tie or do they have a big T painted on their foreheads (or so) or what else do they wear as identification?
2 questions - again
who sowed the wind?
and that already, so to say in preparation, a good six to eight months ago, even when the election wasn't due yet that time?
Yikes! You don't honestly and truly believe this do you??
I don't and not for one second believe that.
They think this because it is what they would do (and did during the BLM protests). Those thugs did exactly what Trump asked them to do 4 hours earlier in his speech to them. Remember these thugs practiced this in Michigan and several other statehouses. These are not Americans.
Busaindena
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Hi,does anyone know of a forum about hayabusas that talks about hayabusas . Getting annoyed that our forum is being used to air out political views .
The political discourse is confined to a couple of threads. If you don't want to partake, avoid those threads. It was set up that way so that you could avoid the politics if you so desire. On another note, why is it that you think your Busa is more important than the United States of America?
Busaindena
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"Is this a busa forum ?"
Was unable to quote as you responded within a previous quote.....
Of course this is a Hayabusa forum and a very active one unlike so many other forums out there. Subject passion is all part of the experience...we get just as excited over different tires or air filters....
Was unable to quote as you responded within a previous quote.....
Of course this is a Hayabusa forum and a very active one unlike so many other forums out there. Subject passion is all part of the experience...we get just as excited over different tires or air filters....
Here is what I know...
The capitol was overrun yesterday by a lot of people, what they support we don't know. Are they Trump supporters maybe, Antifa maybe, QAnon maybe but it really doesn't matter to me. What I do know is that they crossed the line of what is acceptable and should be prosecuted to the fullest measure of the law.
What I see in this forum is everyone trying to be right and prove a point which is exactly what has gotten our country in this situation in the first place. React to the facts that we have in front of us now and I think we will all be better for it.
Was the US Capitol breached? Yes
Was it acceptable? No
Do we really know who they were? No
Did the President incite this situation directly and indirectly? Yes
Is every person responsible for their own actions? Yes
Should the 25th Amendment be invoked? - Possibly but none of us are close enough to judge that criteria so we have to leave that with the Vice President and other leaders.
What we should all be focused on right now in my opinion is how to move forward not in playing the blame game because we have spent the past 4 years arguing and that's worked out well right.
Guys we can't keep on in this country with the same attitudes and finger pointing. What we need right now is a whole lot of Americans to pause, take a breath and look around and realize that we are all Americans in this together.
My father taught me at a young age that while I might have The Right to speak freely I sometimes have a responsibility to keep my mouth shut. Laying my rights aside for others is not the same as having my rights taken away. We need a lot of people to understand that there is a responsibility that comes with the Freedom that they have been provided.
Cap
The capitol was overrun yesterday by a lot of people, what they support we don't know. Are they Trump supporters maybe, Antifa maybe, QAnon maybe but it really doesn't matter to me. What I do know is that they crossed the line of what is acceptable and should be prosecuted to the fullest measure of the law.
What I see in this forum is everyone trying to be right and prove a point which is exactly what has gotten our country in this situation in the first place. React to the facts that we have in front of us now and I think we will all be better for it.
Was the US Capitol breached? Yes
Was it acceptable? No
Do we really know who they were? No
Did the President incite this situation directly and indirectly? Yes
Is every person responsible for their own actions? Yes
Should the 25th Amendment be invoked? - Possibly but none of us are close enough to judge that criteria so we have to leave that with the Vice President and other leaders.
What we should all be focused on right now in my opinion is how to move forward not in playing the blame game because we have spent the past 4 years arguing and that's worked out well right.
Guys we can't keep on in this country with the same attitudes and finger pointing. What we need right now is a whole lot of Americans to pause, take a breath and look around and realize that we are all Americans in this together.
My father taught me at a young age that while I might have The Right to speak freely I sometimes have a responsibility to keep my mouth shut. Laying my rights aside for others is not the same as having my rights taken away. We need a lot of people to understand that there is a responsibility that comes with the Freedom that they have been provided.
Cap
I love the symbolism: Hayabusas and the USA
IF the Hayabusa DID represent the USA, I still would not suggest a hammer to the swingarm in order to repair a spongy brake.
Having personally worked on the Hayabusa, I can share with you all I have been often tempted to resort to random violence as a solution. Thankfully, I had a manual. And this forum of individuals whose guidance continues to be invaluable.
IF the Hayabusa DID represent the USA, I still would not suggest a hammer to the swingarm in order to repair a spongy brake.
Having personally worked on the Hayabusa, I can share with you all I have been often tempted to resort to random violence as a solution. Thankfully, I had a manual. And this forum of individuals whose guidance continues to be invaluable.
I generally agree Capt and as usual well said. However, I feel like there is a difference between debating interpretations of facts and making the facts up at random. This forum has been pretty successful at debating issues most forums could not discuss without death threats flying. Further, I believe a racist has a right to be a racist, and I defend that right.
But I do have a problem with people using the forum to spread completely fabricated realities that are damaging to this country. I don't know what you do about this but I have tried to address those posts with responses based on reality. I believe that forces are using social media including forums like this to push aggressive and anti-American activities and to erode confidence in our government.
Maybe banning Political discussions totally is a good idea given the current environment. But I can say until recently most of our political conversations made this seem more like the interactions I would have with friends and other riders on a lunch break.
I understand your concerns, I have the same concerns myself however I also believe that Truth will reveal itself and those that can model exceptional behaviors will lead through change. This is not the only time that we have seen very passionate and conflicting opinions on this forum but we were able to have great dialog and work through differences.
I have always said we can talk about almost any topic on this forum as long as we kept the conversation to the facts. People have lost the ability to have open dialog and we see not only on this forum but across our country people get to a point and start labeling and name calling.
To have progress we have to be able to communicate, we have to be able to express our ideas and thoughts but we have to do that in a way that is respectful and honorable to all.
Historically I have banned those people that could not conform to the few limitations we have on this forum. There are some great folks that have been on Hayabusa.oRg, over the years that were really intelligent, had great ideas but could not respectfully converse with other members which required me to remove them.
I would recommend that anytime a person communicates to someone else and they have any of the following terms to re-read and think about what you are saying. Absolutes are very complicated and I have learned in my life there just aren't a lot of things that fall into the absolute category.
- You never
- They always
- We
- Them
- Every time
As Americans we should care about the Truth and we should be willing to admit when we are wrong, concede there are other ways to get things done and most importantly compromise and participate in respectful discussions and that is how we will heal together.
Cap....
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The interesting thing about this forum is it has gone international....there are members on here from many countries with many view-points and ideologies all talking and sharing.
In my experience this is astounding in today's social media saturated world.
Mathewrussell52
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Was the polling done on a voting machine....
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